RexRed
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 12:56 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
There is nothing whatsoever moral about the tea party's brand of Christianity.


The Tea Party has nothing to do with Christianity. Where do you get this crap from. That some members are Christian has 0 to do with their political views.

Limited government, less taxes, term limits appear nowhere in the Bible.

And let me straighten you out about religious doctrine. Nowhere in the Christian doctrine is child molesting advocted or considered pious. In the Islamic doctrine emulating the prophet is encouraged(child marriages) and murder of non-believers is sanctioned. 9/11 is considered a pious act by Muslims.

There is quite a difference there.



According to the Bible, Mary the mother of Jesus was called, "the handmaiden of the lord."

Well umm, "handmaidens" are usually no more than 14 years old.

This handmaiden was what the Christian "God" chose to impregnate.

Also, according to the Apocrypha, Joseph, Jesus' step father was in his forties when he was betrothed to Mary.

See what I mean about the tea party people claiming to know the Bible?

That type of doctrinal oversight is what makes your whole propensity toward religious preference seem obliviously ironic..
coldjoint
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 01:10 pm
@RexRed,
Quote:
Well umm, "handmaidens" are usually no more than 14 years old.


Aisha was six. Mohammed consummated the marriage when she was nine. And what does usually mean? I just gave you facts you cherry pick maybes?

Quote:
See what I mean about the tea party people claiming to know the Bible?


No I haven't heard a Tea Party person say that. If you have please show us.
Quote:
That type of doctrinal oversight is what makes your whole propensity toward religious preference seem obliviously ironic..

Since you were talking about molesting boys what does that even have to do with it?
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 01:19 pm
Quote:
Iraq poised to legalize marriage for girls as young as 9


The modern world. My ass.
Quote:
Now the Iraqi government is poised to legalize child marriage for the nation’s majority Shiite Muslim population. But the law, which some expect to pass before this month’s parliamentary elections, would do significantly more than that.

Called the Jaafari Personal Status Law, it would prohibit Muslim men from marrying non-Muslims, prevent women from leaving the house without their husband’s consent, automatically grant custody of children older than two to their father in divorce cases and legalize marital rape.
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Where are the Western feminists? Hounding Republicans I suppose.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/04/10/iraq-poised-to-legalize-marriage-for-girls-as-young-as-9/?tid=hp_mm
JTT
 
  1  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 01:27 pm
@coldjoint,
Is it safe to assume that you support killing children as the all American way, cj?
RexRed
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 01:35 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Is it safe to assume that you support killing children as the all American way, cj?

The crime people supporting the tea party think so. They are "betting" on it. (sarcasm)

coldjoint
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 01:53 pm
@RexRed,
Quote:
The crime people supporting the tea party think so


You still refuse to tell me why they are so bad.
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 01:56 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Is it safe to assume that you support killing children as the all American way,


I assume that you live in a fantasy world where things are fair and there are no motives. The world, let alone the US, will never live up to your standards.
JTT
 
  0  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 02:14 pm
@coldjoint,
You've gone from denial to supporting war crimes and terrorism, cj. So now you fully support killing children as the all American way,
coldjoint
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 02:18 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
So now you fully support killing children as the all American way,


I don't support killing children in anyway. For you to say so shows your never ending desperation.
wmwcjr
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 02:32 pm
@JTT,
This sort of embargo is an immoral outrage. I had never heard of this before. Couldn't the embargo been more selective for the purpose of sparing the lives of these children? Is this how the U.S. should make friends in the Middle East? As much as I hate to say it, Iraq seems to have been better off under Saddam. Women and Coptic Christians certainly were better off before we "liberated" the country. I fear the U.S. media has failed to report the truth.
RexRed
 
  1  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 02:44 pm
Senate can freeze the house budget.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 02:50 pm
@RexRed,
Quote:
Senate can freeze the house budget.


Another good way for Democrats to be voted out of office.
coldjoint
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 02:59 pm
Quote:
Journalists and pundits are outraged by the federal abuses of power. “He and his allies embarked on a campaign of political retribution the likes of which we haven’t seen since Richard Nixon,” wrote one prominent political strategist. “I’ve seen [him] turn a blind eye as his henchmen have leveled zealous attacks against his political enemies–assaults which the president himself has sometimes directly encouraged.” Another nationally known columnist agreed. “Most of the abuses involved using the power of government to reward political friends and punish political enemies,” he wrote

Sound familiar? The double standard of the media is familiar.


Quote:
These weren’t reactions to the news that the “Internal Revenue Service employees urged callers to vote for President Obama, disparaged Republicans in conversations with taxpayers and wore pro-Obama swag at work during the 2012 election cycle,” according to the Washington Post. They were not reactions to the eye-popping news that, “Former IRS director Lois Lerner, the center figure in the scandal surrounding conservative and Tea Party groups once joked about getting a job with Organizing for Action while investigating the reorganization of President Obama’s former campaign operation into a 501(c)(4) group.” Nor were they reactions to reports that, “The top Democrat on a House committee tasked with investigating the IRS scandal (Elijah Cummings) may have been involved in the targeting of a Texas-based conservative group.”

Nope. The pundits quoted in the first paragraph were Paul Begala and Paul Krugman complaining about the Bush Administration in 2009 and 2004, respectively. Where is the journalistic outrage today?


http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/2014/04/10/what-did-obama-white-house-know-when-did-they-know-it-irs/
RexRed
 
  2  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 03:18 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Senate can freeze the house budget.


Another good way for Democrats to be voted out of office.


Another way to let the voters decide and not big money.
JTT
 
  0  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 03:38 pm
@wmwcjr,
Quote:
As much as I hate to say it, Iraq seems to have been better off under Saddam.


Iraq and Iraqis overall were much much much better off, Bill.

Quote:
I fear the U.S. media has failed to report the truth


Save for a select few and select times, the USA media has always failed to report the truth.
JTT
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 03:50 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:

I don't support killing children in anyway. For you to say so shows your never ending desperation.


So instead of expressing anything, let alone outrage, at the usa's slaughter of Iraqi children, you make lame excuses for you and by default, them.

You've seen this article before, you know what the USA regularly does, has done and still you are silent. There's no other reasonable conclusion that one can draw but that you support the killing of children. Sadly, you are in large company.

Quote:
Killing Children Is the All-American Way
by Finian Cunningham / December 22nd, 2012

Madeleine Albright, the American ambassador the United Nations, was asked on nationwide television in 1996 if the death of half a million Iraqi children from US war and sanctions on that country was a price worth paying. Albright replied: “This is a very hard choice, but the price – we think is worth it.

That was before the so-called Second Persian Gulf War that began in 2003 with American air force “shock and awe”, followed by nearly nine years of illegal military occupation – an occupation that included the use of nuclear munitions and white phosphorus on the civilian populations in Fallujah and elsewhere, and involved countless massacres of families and children by US helicopter gunships and troopers.

Since Albright’s infamous admission, the death toll of Iraqi children from American military crimes can be safely assumed to run into multiples of what she candidly thought was a price worth paying more than 16 years ago.

Earlier this week when President Barack Obama was offering condolences to the families of the 20 children shot dead in an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, he said: “Whatever portion of sadness that can share with you to ease your heavy load, we will gladly bear it. Newtown, you are not alone.”

Indeed, Newtown is not alone. Children are slaughtered every week by Americans all over the world on the watch of Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama and his White House predecessors.

One study by James Lucas in 2007 put the death toll of civilians from American wars and sponsored conflicts in 37 countries since the Second World War at up to 30 million lives. The proportion of that figure corresponding to child deaths is not known but if the casualty rate of Iraq is anything to go by, we can estimate that the number of children killed by American militarism and covert wars since WWII is easily in the order of 20 million – that is, a million times the carnage last week in Connecticut.

The countries where these American-inflicted deaths occurred include: Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Angola, Congo, Afghanistan, Pakistan, El Salvador, Guatemala and Nicaragua. They also include Iran during the American-backed Iraq war of 1980-88. Every continent on Earth has felt the American hand of death.

But note the figure of 20 million child deaths from American militarism is bound to be a serious underestimate of the actual total. In the last five years, the world has seen an escalation of child mortality from the carcinogenic legacy of depleted uranium and suspected use of other nuclear weapons in Iraq. The above figures do not include the latest killings from American assassination drones in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and other suspected war theatres, such as Mali in West Africa. Nor do the figures include overt and covert American military action in Libya last year and currently in Syria – nor the ongoing imposition of crippling sanctions against Iran where an untold number of sick children are dying from lack of medicines due to Washington’s import blockade.

As people across the United States watch in grief the procession of funerals this week for 20 tiny children in Connecticut, there is a sense of profound disbelief that such a horror could be carried out in their society. The young man, Adam Lanza, who went on a murderous rampage with high-powered assault weapons, was mentally ill. He reportedly shot his own mother four times in the head in their home before driving to the nearby elementary school to kill six and seven-year olds along with six female members of staff, before taking his own life.

Lanza’s mental disorder is part of the awful picture to this mass murder. So too is the easy availability of explosive lethal weaponry in America, which represents five per cent of the world’s population but possesses up to 50 per cent of all global civilian firearms.

We should also look at the malign influence and prevalence of violent entertainment and video games that teach children how to kill and to view killing others as a fun “challenging” sport. Even in the sickening aftermath of the Newtown shootings, some internet sites were inviting customers to try out the video killing game said to have been frequently played by Adam Lanza before he took his own life and those of 27 others last Friday morning.

But more than this, Americans need to look at how their society has increasingly become a psychopathic culture of death over many decades. Americans need to realize how their hallowed capitalist ideology of the putative American Dream is in practice nothing but the destruction of communities and millions of individuals on the altar of elite profit-making. Think about the glib, common parlance used to describe the process of human destruction. Investors “make a killing”; workforces are “liquidated”; society is facing a “fiscal cliff”.

Death on an industrial scale is sanctified through genocidal economic policies that enrich an oligarchy of financiers and warmongers belonging to the financial-military-congressional complex.

If human life can be violated and cheapened on such a vast, systematic scale, both in America and around the world, then the loss of 20 children in Newtown is, to be honest, a price that is negligible, if not worth it.

America has become a killing machine, driven by an ideology in which human life is but a worthless commodity that can be exploited and discarded. The discarding of human life is seen most graphically in foreign countries where American elite interests want oil or some other commercial or geopolitical gain. But increasingly this killing machine is turning in on itself, destroying its own society, families and individuals.

Obama added in his eulogy for the deaths in Newtown, Connecticut: “We cannot tolerate this any more… we will have to change.”

This is from the man who orders drone kill lists in Afghanistan and Pakistan every week that involve the “collateral damage” of children being ripped to pieces. This is from the man who is killing children in Iran by tightening economic strangleholds. This is from the man who immediately agreed to millions of dollars worth of more weaponry to the Israeli state fresh from its mass murder of innocents in Gaza. This is from the man supporting militants in Syria who are targeting schools and hospitals with car bombs.

Through the pain and suffering of the latest mass shooting in the US, maybe ordinary Americans are beginning to realize just how big a change is really needed in their


http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/12/killing-children-is-the-all-american-way/

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wmwcjr
 
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Thu 10 Apr, 2014 03:51 pm
@JTT,
I know this is merely anecdotal; but I'll say it, anyway. Years ago my sister worked in various capacities as a journalist for several decades before her health forced her to retire. (She never had occasion to cover international developments, though.) She strove to be as objective as she could.

She once told me that many of her fellow journalists were lazy. She said they did not do the work of investigation to be sure they knew what they were talking about. Perhaps that's part of the problem with much of the media.
wmwcjr
 
  0  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 04:00 pm
@coldjoint,
It's the way of the world. Sad "It's a matter of whose ox gets gored (or gorged)."

At least we have the Internet (with all its minuses and pluses).
Advocate
 
  1  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 04:38 pm
@wmwcjr,
I have found that most reporters (not commentators) working for reputable media do a good unbiased job.

Unfortunately, the reputable media is taking a financial bath due to the Internet and other electronic media. It is very sad and bad for the country.

BTW, I now read USA Today during the week. It is neutral, does a very good job, and does some good investigative reporting.
JTT
 
  0  
Thu 10 Apr, 2014 04:48 pm
@Advocate,
Quote:
I have found that most reporters (not commentators) working for reputable media do a good unbiased job.


It's phenomenal that you could even suggest such a thing, A. All the heinous acts, the war crimes, the terrorism of the USA never sees the light of day.

If it did there wouldn't be so many people unaware of who the real terrorists are, what the USA really is.
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