JTT
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 01:34 pm
@coldjoint,
That's a meme with a foot stomp, cj, but it's still a meme.
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 01:42 pm
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The fact that they found 752 people with the same name, birth date and last 4 number of their social security isn't surprising at all. The odds tell us with 365 days in a year, an average life expectancy 80 and the last 4 digits of 1000 could result in almost 20,00o instances nationwide where people share name, birth date and last 4 numbers of their social security number. That would mean almost 40,000 people. Those 752 in the state of North Carolina is what could be expected.


And the Treasury gives out free samples the second Tuesday of every week.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/lolol.gif
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 01:44 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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Move these figures into the Electoral College...and you see that the conservatives get a huge boost there also.


The founding fathers created the Electoral College because they wanted to protect the republic they established against the tyranny of the majority. Remember we are not a true democracy.

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In any institution in which a majority of citizens or members can pass laws or rules that apply, not just to themselves, but to all members of the group, judgment is required to distinguish potential laws which are reasonable and fair from those which are tyrannical because they are unnecessary, unfair, and justifiably intolerable to the minority that opposed them. And formal mechanisms need to be in place, wherever feasible, to prevent tyrannical laws from being passed by those whose judgment in such matters might fail.

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The founding fathers of the American republic were not unaware of this problem, and some of the provisions of the U.S. Constitution can be viewed as ways of addressing it even if that is not necessarily their expressed or realized intention. James Madison wrote in Federalist Paper 51: "It is of great importance in a republic not only to guard the society against the oppression of its rulers but to guard one part of the society against the injustice of the other part. If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure." Many of the features of the Constitutional organization of the Federal government are meant to keep any branch or department from attaining domination of the others, but in fulfilling that function, they also serve as a safeguard against any popular majority, as represented then by the House of Representatives (and now by the Senate and the House of Representatives in partnership), from being able to oppress other citizens. Again Madison from the same work: "In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions."


http://www.garlikov.com/philosophy/majorityrule.htm



DISGUSTING!


coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 01:49 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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DISGUSTING!


But true. It is what this country is about. Pack up and leave. I bet there a lot of vacancies in Cuba.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 01:54 pm
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

So how do you explain the majority of states in the North East? They have relativly smaller populations then other states. They get the same amount of say in the Senate.


Red states win on this issue.

Yeah...there are some where the tables are turned...Texas, for instance.

But look at the population of states...by red and blue...and it is easily seen that the red states gain a huge advantage.





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But you are failing to see that the House of Representatives is where the people get their representation.


Am I??? Why do you think that?



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The Senate is an equal division for all states.


Something agreed on mostly because of the possible impact on slavery.

In any case, the idea of one person/one vote is tough to put aside. And the impact of the disparity on the Electoral College is too much to ignore.



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Based on how you think it should be done, the Left would control the entire govt. with no options left for those on the right. Is this the type of govt you would prefer to see?


I'd actually like to see the Republican Party continue to be the party of the conservatives...and for it to go back to being the loyal opposition. Conservatives simply cannot lead...they cannot govern. But I want very much for them to be a constant and vigilant check on the liberals.



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We could go back to have the Senators elected the way they were before the days of Woodrow Wilson.


Why is that even a question of me? Have I given you any reason to suspect I would?


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How would you feel about that?


Not sure...haven't even thought about it.



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Why do you hate the Constitution so much?


Why do you beat your wife?
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 01:55 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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The phrase "tyranny of the majority" (or "tyranny of the masses"), used in discussing systems of democracy and majority rule, involves the scenario in which decisions made by a majority place its interests above those of an individual or minority group, constituting active oppression comparable to that of tyrants and despots.[1] In many cases a disliked ethnic, religious or racial group is deliberately penalized by the majority element acting through the democratic process.[citation needed]


Looks like conservatives have been helping minorities for a long time
<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority


Yeah. I suppose that is why you conservatives suck up to the barons so much...to insure that they are not dominated by the masses.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 01:56 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

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DISGUSTING!


But true. It is what this country is about. Pack up and leave. I bet there a lot of vacancies in Cuba.


I'm going to be right here...fighting for sanity in the face of opposition from the right.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 02:05 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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I'm going to be right here...fighting for sanity in the face of opposition from the right.


Little old and skinny to be taking names and kicking ass, aren't you Frank?
And you oppose what this countries laws are based on. The country should be adhering to the Constitution not trashing it.

And the Constitution is a well thought out completely sane document. What do find insane in there?
coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 02:07 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Yeah. I suppose that is why you conservatives suck up to the barons so much...to insure that they are not dominated by the masses.

Knave!!!!!
parados
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 02:14 pm
@coldjoint,
The Pink Prevaricator" wrote:



And the Treasury gives out free samples the second Tuesday of every week.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/lolol.gif

So rather than showing us your math to disprove my claim, you post what you consider to be a derogatory insult. Once again, you prove you are an idiot.
parados
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 02:15 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
If a majority be united by a common interest, the rights of the minority will be insecure."

The attempt to restrict voting is an example of this.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 02:19 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
I'm going to be right here...fighting for sanity in the face of opposition from the right.


Little old and skinny to be taking names and kicking ass, aren't you Frank?


Maybe. If you want to test whether I am physically up to the job...stop on by. We can have a go at it. I am slight of build...and I am 77. Sounds about the right kind of opponent for someone like you.

And unlike you, I've got my name and location up for view so it wouldn't be that hard to find me.


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And you oppose what this countries laws are based on.


Really? Have I ever said that?

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The country should be adhering to the Constitution not trashing it.
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Okay...but is there anything in the Constitution that requires all citizens to refrain from lobbying for change?

C'mon, CJ. You can do much better than this!

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And the Constitution is a well thought out completely sane document.


Oh...so we should have left it "as is?"

Slaves would still be slaves and women would still be unable to vote.

Doesn't seem all that good an idea to me.

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What do find insane in there?


I find some of the people who advertise themselves to be American conservatives...to be espousing ideas I consider insane, CJ. Does the Constitution prohibit me from doing so?
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 02:20 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Yeah. I suppose that is why you conservatives suck up to the barons so much...to insure that they are not dominated by the masses.

Knave!!!!!


Perhaps. But a knave with the balls not to suck up to the barons.

(Is that the one-eyed knave?)
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JTT
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 02:31 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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i want very much for them to be a constant and vigilant check on the liberals.


You're a bad liar, Frank, or a mightily confused idiot becsuse you have spoken often about giving your criminal governments free rein. Ya gotta trust them you say.
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coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 06:06 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Maybe. If you want to test whether I am physically up to the job...stop on by. We can have a go at it. I am slight of build...and I am 77. Sounds about the right kind of opponent for someone like you.

And unlike you, I've got my name and location up for view so it wouldn't be that hard to find me.


Awfully defensive Frank, I never implied any of that. And you are right you are far to old for me.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 06:10 pm
How did people take Mozilla caving to Gay bullies?
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You forced Brendan Eich into resigning for his personal beliefs, which had NOTHING to do with his ability to run Mozilla. Nothing. If that's Mozilla's stance on individual independence, I no longer trust you. Goodbye.
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You ousted your CEO for supporting the same position Obama did in 2008. You are intolerant bigots and need to evolve.
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I'm removing Firefox for the same reason everyone else is. Brendan Eich.
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Not to well. They favor free speech not coercion.

http://www.conservativeintel.com/2014/04/04/mozilla-sets-new-company-online-record-for-customer-dissatisfaction/
coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 06:12 pm
@parados,
Quote:
So rather than showing us your math to disprove my claim,


It is not an insult it is a joke like your math and the small, almost impossible odds that is what happened. Fraud,Shill, fraud.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 06:14 pm
@parados,
Quote:
The attempt to restrict voting is an example of this.

Picture ID is free. You excuses just make the possibility and the reality of voting fraud a fact.
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MontereyJack
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 06:21 pm
@coldjoint,
Isn't it remarkable how many people think tolerating intolerance is actually tolerance.
coldjoint
 
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Fri 4 Apr, 2014 06:22 pm

Quote:
State Department Misplaced $6B Under Hillary Clinton
IG report reveals incomplete, lost contract files worth $6B


She accomplished nothing. Well, I take that back. She managed the misplacement of six billion dollars. And the death of four Americans.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/state-department-misplaced-6b-under-hillary-clinton/
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