On Voting Republicans Out Of Office

Np, I'm used to people who preach about tolerance not being able to practice what they preach.

No, it isn't required to practice your 2nd Amendment right. It is only required when you purchase a gun if you purchase from a dealer. After that time you are free from government asking for ID when you exercise the right. It is a one time request for ID. You can then use your gun thousands of times without presenting ID. In the case of voting you are saying every time the right is used it requires an ID. If the right was to only BUY a gun then the government could take the gun away after you bought it since having the gun isn't a right under your scenario.

Registering to vote would be like buying a gun. It is the step required to exercise your right.

Buying a gun is like registering to vote. Voting is like carrying or using your gun.
In one case you only show ID once and then are entitled to that right without ID. In the other case you want an ID every time the right is used.

The one sided belief that Parados is right is what is fascist.

Review my last post to Parados and then we can try this. Until then your opinion is just that, opinion.

If I want a CCW, I have to go through an additional background check and have my finger prints taken, pay additional fee's and be licensed. I would also have to renew that license every year or every other year depending on the state. This is an additional burden on the use of your 2nd Amendment rights. Some states require that you show an ID when you purchase ammo. Some politicians want to require an additional license for the purchase of ammo as well as pay additional taxes and fee's on that ammo. This is another burden people have to go through. It doesn't stop at just the purchase of the gun. Some states are looking at banning guns that are currently legal and CT is requiring gun registration. States like CA only allow guns to be sold that have been highly modified from standard guns to meet their exclusive safety standards.

When you vote, there is maybe only one fee you have to pay and that is for the ID, you might have to use to register to vote. You can register to vote with someone in front of your local grocery store and it is free, no fee or tax to register. Some people and that is a minority might have to pay for a copy of their birth certificate. As noted in a previous post, some states have people in the ID dept, to help people locate and acquire the information they need to get an ID. There are no states that make it difficult to obtain an ID that do not have people to assist you. They want people to have IDs and even offer them for free for people who cannot afford them. Homeless people can get ID's as long as they have an address. The assistance is there.

What you are dealing with is the denial and lies that are repeated over and over. A fine example is that there is no IRS scandal when Lois Lerner takes the fifth. Why and what is she hiding? Thinking denying the actual fact of that obvious guilt is the program.

It isn't required every time you exercise the right. It is a requirement every few years and then you can exercise the right all you want without showing ID again.

You haven't addressed the issue that you are not required to show ID every time you exercise a constitutional right but you want to require it for the other constitutional right.

What's your point? Ammo isn't protected under the Constitution.

Yes, and? The state has shown a compelling interest with actual incidents of gun violence. There are over a 250,000 crimes committed with guns in the US every year. That compares to maybe a couple of hundred illegal votes cast. Clearly there is a more compelling case when it comes to guns. The USSC has also ruled that not all weapons are protected under the 2nd amendment. You can't vote in any election you want to either. You are restricted to voting in your own precinct.

http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-voter-fraud-a-real-problem/voter-fraud-deniers-ignore-the-facts

If you saw "Why We Did It" last night you'll understand this vet's bitterness.

I have addressed the issue, you just don't like my answer. As a gun owner and a voter I can tell you that showing an ID to vote is nothing. I only have to show my ID to vote once a year, maybe twice a year if there is a special election. For the average voter, they might vote once every other year or only vote in the presidential election. Voting #'s show this to be true.

When I go shooting I have to show my ID every single time. To purchase ammo I get ID, to purchase a gun I get ID. Every time I purchase a weapon I get ID and background checked, every time I purchase ammo I get ID'd. When I go to the range I get ID'd which I believe is state law. So yes, every time I choose to exercise my 2nd Amendment right I have have to show ID.

By the way, what good is a gun without ammo? Do I stand around and yell bang? If you want to eliminate guns then I guess you just outlaw the ammo?

The impact is equal. If you were a gun owner and were a responsible gun owner who practices with their weapon then you would know this. If you practiced like a good gun owner so that you didn't have an accident and knew you were going to hit what you were shooting at, you would know the impact gun laws have. All of these laws at the state, federal and even city level mandate the use of an ID. If you have a CCW, you are required to carry your ID and CCW with you at all times when you carry your weapon. You forget your ID and license and get caught with your gun, you are more then likely going to be arrested. So having an ID and being a gun owner is being very important.

Fall all this talk about the ability to vote, I still don't understand why people don't have ID's. We have been talking about this for well over 5 years. You would think that local communities and state legislators would be doing more to make sure people had ID's. How about they setup mobile vans that have the ability to travel to locations to provide those hard to reach people with ID's. We already know you don't have to pay for one if you are poor, we also know that if you can't locate any of the paper work required that there is assistance to help you. Having an ID in our modern day society can only help you, it never hurts one to have ID.

Since your post is out of nowhere....

HISTORICAL FACT
AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, ZERO PERCENT OF AMERICANS OF ANY COLOR OWNED SLAVES. BUT IN THE EX-CONFEDERATE STATES, JIM CROW SEGREGATION LAWS 'LEGALLY' KEPT BLACK PEOPLE IN CONDITIONS NOT THAT FAR FROM SLAVERY.

ELECT HILLARY IN 2016

Someone mad?

As Sgt. Joe Friday always said, "Just the facts, ma'am".

Laws passed by Democrats who still have black people right where they want them. Wise up Hillary is going to keep them right where they are.

Under Nixon's Southern Strategy, and after the Civil Rights Act of 1965, the segregationist Democrats switched en masse to the Republican Party. Where they still are. Don't know your history, do you, coldjoint? Black people aren't stupid, as you guys seem to think. They know the GOP offers them nothing (as your own black chairman of the RNC told you guys, but you didn't listen).

I know Johnson was the president in 1965 and what he gave the Blacks was done begrudgingly.

More history.

Oh yes. Johnson loved the black man.