On Voting Republicans Out Of Office

What have the democrats done for minorities? They have been in control of the major urban centers for the last 5o years, and nothing has gotten better for the minorities. The schools are just as bad now as they were when the Dems gained control. Look at the mayor of NY, he has gone and basically shut down the charter school system in NY. Who benefits most from those schools? The inner city youth who happen to black. Now who is really doing damage to the minorities today?

Why would the segregationist Democrats switch to the party who's majority vote passed the Civil Rights act. Did you also know that a majority of the southern states were also under the control of Democrats until at least the early 1990's. It's true. Go check the list of Governors for the southern states in the last century and see which parties controlled which. The GOP has only been in control for the last 20 years, and the south has been in trouble for longer then that.

Maybe Hillary can use this in her campaign.

More history.

You're being intellectually dishonest. The Southern segregationist Democrats were CONSERVATIVES, not liberals. At the time of the civil rights movement, both parties had a left wing and a right wing. Since then, a polarization has taken place, with the result that the Republicans are without a left wing and the Democrats are without a right wing. Baldimo, this fact has been pointed out repeatedly; yet you aren't willing to learn.

Lyndon Johnson had his faults, but to say that his contributions to civil rights were begrudgingly given is truly ludicrous. Of course, you don't point out that your hero Barry Goldwater opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and made that stance very much a part of his campaign. President Johnson even said as he signed the Civil Rights bill into law that the Democratic Party was going to lose the South for a generation. Yeah, it really was to Lyndon Johnson's political advantage to support civil rights. Yeah, he was building a political machine. That's why he was reelected as President in 1968. Oh, he wasn't?

Can you name a single leading conservative who consistently opposed Jim Crow during the 1950s and the 1960s? Of course, you can't! The truth of the matter is that the political conservative movement has always had an undercurrent of racism. I personally have witnessed evidence of this for decades. Numerous examples can be found. Just to give a single example, in the 1990s a leading conservative writer named Charles Murray wrote a book (The Bell Curve) in which he argued that blacks were genetically inferior to whites. The original Religious Right was the Ku Klux Klan, which has always been POLITICALLY CONSERVATIVE throughout its history.

As I have said repeatedly, I'm not a supporter of President Obama. I never voted for him. I would even agree that attention should be paid to the effect that welfare may have had on the black family, but many conservatives really don't care anyway since they view black Americans as being genetically inferior.

Honestly, Coldjoint, Baldimo, you're two of the biggest jerks I've ever encountered online. You know absolutely nothing about the history of race relations in this country. When Ulysses Grant left office, black Americans were left without a friend in the White House until Harry Truman. The bitter truth is that both parties forget about black Americans until civil rights became an issue in the late 1940s.

You're too intellectually dishonest to deal with the sorry record of political conservatism on the issue of race. (Oh, lest I forget, what is the political affiliation of the Supreme Court Justices who eviscerated the Voting Rights Act last year? Surprise, surprise. Conservative Republicans! I can just imagine how they would have voted in Plessy vs. Ferguson, including that "Uncle Tom" Clarence Thomas.) You guys are incapable of being intellectually honest on this issue because political conservatism is your religion. Political conservatism is your god. You think political conservatism is infallible. As for me, I have no political ideology for my religion. The liberals wouldn't have me because I'm pro-life and I don't support same-sex marriage, and I've become a nonvoter.

The father of a childhood friend of mine, a white Southerner who was a World War II veteran, became a civil rights attorney after the war. He and his wife and children received many death threats. His children sometimes had to be escorted to school by the police. I grew up under Jim Crow and saw just how terrible and ugly it was. The record of leading political conservatives at that time? Oh, it is to laugh!

Both of you guys disgust me.

Your last post is just blather. You're lying to yourself. You want to fiddle with the democratic process to deny people the vote. You can make up as much nonsense as you want to justify it, and you probably believe the lies you tell yourself, but they're just lies.

It comes down to this. Voter fraud is not a problem. You want to make it harder for people to vote. Therefore you are attacking democracy.

Coldjoint and Baldino are not getting it...because they do not want to get it.

The American conservatives of the south were indeed Democrats...and it has always been the conservatives who have opposed any civil rights legislation.

In any case, while not every Republican conservative is a racist...EVERY self-avowed racist I know...is a staunch supporter of Republican conservatism. EVERY self-identified, "proud" ultra-conservative I personally know just loves people like Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck...and the long line of semi-literate politicians that make up the Republican presidential wanna-be's.

And that says a hell of a lot more about Republican conservatism than what these two, or the other conservative defenders, will ever recognize or acknowledge.

Keep up the good fight, wmwcjr. It gets tiring, I know...but it is worthwhile and very, very necessary.

We disagree on showing an ID to a private company is the same as being required to show it to a government official. You seem to think they are the same thing. I prefer to agree with the courts and constitutional scholars that it isn't the same thing.


As for vans driving around giving out IDs, you ignore the issue of requiring proof of citizenship and identification to get that ID. Will you allow neighbours to vouch for a person in order for them to get an ID? Will you allow them to simply sign a statement saying they are a citizen? You continue to ignore the fact that getting proof of who you are costs money. Even if you live in the same town and state you were born in, which many people do not, you still have to pay to get a copy of your birth certificate. If you don't live in the same state, it becomes much more complicated. States don't send out birth certificates to anyone who asks. For instance, Texas requires a photo ID to get the birth certificate you would need in order to get a photo ID.

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/vs/reqproc/Ordering-Birth-Certificates-by-Mail/

What kind of people do you hang with Frank? Thanks for nothing but your crowd pleasing bullshit.

Frank: Keep up the good fight, wmwcjr. It gets tiring, I know...but it is worthwhile and very, very necessary
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I will, Frank.

Odd though that an intellectual coward like you would want to suggest such a thing.

You should be disgusted by the lies and credit taken for actually doing something about the minorities in this country. It has not been the Democrats, whether conservative or not. If anything the handouts and welfare have encouraged the destruction of the black family. A fact born out by statistics that don't lie like the idiots you suddenly believe.

Frank: Coldjoint and Baldino are not getting it...because they do not want to get it.

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Hoist with his own petard!

You are ignoring the central issue, cj, and creating diversions. You are good material to become a glen beck or a rush limppaw.

You had better take a look at his voting record. Both in Texas and the Senate before you say anything. It was purely political for Johnson, nothing came from his heart or soul. He was a racist from the word go.

What is the central issue? Do you have any idea?

He was a usa president, cj, a war criminal/terrorist/torturer/enabler of rapists/... so what do you expect?

Mohammed was never president.