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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 09:02 pm
@firefly,
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No, that's not true. DSK's team will try to destroy this woman's character and reputation
THe state has its wagon hooked up to her character and reputation, so why does she need her own team to look after that? Does she not trust the state?
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 09:35 pm
@BillRM,
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If he keep losing important cases he likely not going even be able win an election for dog catcher in the future.

On November 3, 2009, Vance won the general election with a 91 percent share of the votes cast. I don't think he is worried about his job right now.

The New York County District Attorney’s Office is one of the nation’s preeminent prosecutor’s offices. Since the 1930s, there have been just four elected District Attorneys. The job of being the Manhattan D.A. is a career.

You may not think the charges against DSK make sense, but Cyrus Vance, Jr. clearly doesn't agree with you.
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DISTRICT ATTORNEY VANCE ANNOUNCES INDICTMENT OF DOMINIQUE STRAUSS-KAHN ON SEXUAL ASSAULT CHARGES

Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance, Jr., today announced the indictment of DOMINIQUE STRAUSS-KAHN, 62, on two counts of Criminal Sexual Act in the First Degree, one count of Attempted Rape in the First Degree, one count of Sexual Abuse in the First Degree, one count of Unlawful Imprisonment in the Second Degree, one count of Forcible Touching, and one count of Sexual Abuse in the Third Degree. Today’s indictment in Supreme Court signifies that a New York State Grand Jury has voted to indict the defendant on all of the charges he faced following his Criminal Court arraignment on May 16, 2011. Today’s hearing in Supreme Court voids the need for tomorrow’s court date in Part F, and the next court date in this case will be June 6, 2011.

“The Grand Jury, an independent body comprised of impartial jurors, considered the evidence presented by prosecutors from my Office, and found it sufficient to file an indictment,” said District Attorney Vance. “Under American law, these are extremely serious charges, based on the Grand Jury’s determination that the evidence supports the commission of non-consensual, forced sexual acts. During the course of the criminal process, this defendant will receive all of the protections available to ensure a fair trial, protections guaranteed to everyone charged with a crime in America, including each of the more than 100,000 defendants who come before my Office each year. A fair and impartial criminal justice system has been the bedrock of our democracy for more than 200 years, and will continue to be rigorously upheld in New York courts, and by this Office.”

According to the documents filed in court, on May 14, 2011, STRAUSS-KAHN shut the door of his hotel room, thereby preventing the victim, a member of the hotel’s room attendant staff, from leaving. He grabbed the victim’s chest without consent, attempted to remove her pantyhose, and forcibly grabbed the victim’s vaginal area. His penis made contact with the victim’s mouth twice through the use of force.

Assistant District Attorney John (Artie) McConnell is handling the prosecution of this case under the supervision of Assistant District Attorney Lisa Friel, Chief of the Sex Crimes Unit; Assistant District Attorney John Irwin, Deputy Chief of the Trial Division; and Chief Assistant District Attorney Daniel R. Alonso.

Defendant Information:
DOMINIQUE STRAUSS-KAHN, D.O.B. 4/24/1949

Charges:

Criminal Sexual Act in the First Degree, a class B violent felony, two counts
Attempted Rape in the First Degree, a class C violent felony, one count
Sexual Abuse in the First Degree, a class D violent felony, one count
Unlawful Imprisonment in the Second Degree, a class A misdemeanor, one count
Forcible Touching, a class A misdemeanor, one count
Sexual Abuse in the Third Degree, a class B misdemeanor, one count

A class B violent felony is punishable by up to 25 years in prison, a class C violent felony is punishable by up to 15 years in prison, a class D violent felony is punishable by up to 7 years in prison, a class A misdemeanor is punishable by up to one year in jail, and a class B misdemeanor is punishable by up to three months in jail.
http://www.manhattanda.org/press-release/district-attorney-vance-announces-indictment-dominique-strauss-kahn-sexual-assault-cha


firefly
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 09:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
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THe state has its wagon hooked up to her character and reputation, so why does she need her own team to look after that?

The state can help to protect her as a witness, but they cannot speak for her, or represent her in the media, as her lawyer, Shapiro, has done so far. The state has to concentrate on its criminal case, she needs her own lawyers to represent her and to defend her from rumors that may be planted in the media.

I don't see anything unusual about her having her own lawyers. This is a high profile, highly publicized case. A great many things are being said about this woman, and will continue to be said about her, and she needs someone who can speak for her, and defend her, in the media, and who can help to protect her from slander and libel.

Anyone in her position who didn't have their own lawyers would be foolish.

BTW, Hawkeye, I hope you read my previous post. What you consider "minor sexual assaults" New York State regards as "violent felonies". Strauss-Kahn is accused of very serious crimes.

DSK's team will do everything under the sun to discredit the maid--and a good deal of that may be done by planting leaks and rumors in the media. She needs her own team of lawyers to protect her.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 09:52 pm
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Dominique Strauss-Kahn, accused of sexually assaulting a New York hotel maid, is expected to take his chances with a US jury in hopes of an acquittal, rather than plead guilty and seek a lighter sentence, legal experts say.
The US legal system organizes criminal trials in two phases. First, the prosecution presents its case to a 12-person jury, which listens to testimony and weighs evidence from both sides before reaching a verdict by unanimity.
If a guilty verdict is rendered, the court must then determine the punishment, such as a prison term. It can hear from new witnesses who can provide evidence of mitigating or aggravating circumstances.
However, at any time during the proceedings -- even while the jury is deliberating -- a defendant can plead guilty, usually as part of a "plea bargain" with prosecutors that allows for a reduced sentence.
But in the case of Strauss-Kahn, the former managing director of the International Monetary Fund, it's highly unlikely he would plead guilty before seeing all of the evidence against him, such as DNA test results, according to experts in New York criminal laws.
Holly Maguigan, a professor at New York University School of Law, said she would be "very surprised" if he pleads guilty. Strauss-Kahn's next court appearance is June 6, and his lawyers say he'll plead not guilty.
"Whatever the offer the prosecution made, it would be accompanied by a prison sentence," Maguigan said.
"I could imagine from his point of view thinking even if I could save five or 10 years by pleading (guilty), I have given away so much of what matters to me. I am admitting guilt but it's not worth it," she said, putting herself in Strauss-Kahn's shoes.
Ian Weinstein of Fordham University School of Law agreed.
"It's hard to see that there will be an attractive enough plea bargain to make it worthwhile for him to give up the opportunity of an acquittal trial," said Weinstein, a law professor.
Under New York law, the case cannot be resolved by a financial settlement with the victim, according to the experts.
If Strauss-Kahn or someone on his behalf persuaded the alleged victim, a 32-year-old immigrant from Guinea who is raising a teenage daughter alone, to retract her allegations, prosecutor Cyrus Vance can still pursue the trial.
"They can proceed without her, they have other evidence, they have her (statement), her grand jury testimony," said Ellen Yaroshefsky, professor at Yeshiva University's Cardozo School of Law.
"Whether a jury will like that is another question," she said.
Weinstein added: "In a case that has received this much attention, it would be difficult for her to become uncooperative" with prosecutors.
Strauss-Kahn forcefully declared his innocence in a letter to former colleagues. So all signs point to a trial later this year in which the alleged victim would tell the jury her version of events.
Strauss-Kahn, once a leading contender for the French presidency, is not obliged to testify, but his lawyers would likely contradict the alleged victim's account of events of May 14.
"In a typical case, the man would say it was with consent and she says no, he raped me," Yaroshefsky said. "This is a little different because there was immediate outcry. She immediately did something about it."
If Strauss-Kahn is convicted, he would then receive a sentence for each count on which he was found guilty.
The experts interviewed by AFP said he would likely be ordered to serve his sentences concurrently -- not one after the other, or consecutively, which is usually reserved for more heinous crimes.
"Given his age, the fact that he has never been convicted of a crime before, that he has in so many ways made such a large contribution to society, the fact that there is not a major injury to the victim, are prior reasons why I think most judges would think that a sentence of even 15 years would be an extremely harsh sentence for someone in his situation," Weinstein said, predicting "at least five years" if he's convicted

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/strauss-kahn-likely-headed-trial-experts-213447128.html
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 09:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
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She has not been able to go back to work,” he said. “The hotel has continued to pay her, but that is not a long- term solution. That’s an interim solution.”

Financial Resources

No one else is providing her with support and her financial resources for the long term must be dealt with, he said.

Shapiro said he had no knowledge that anyone had approached her family in Guinea with offers of money to make the case go away, as the New York Post reported.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-05-27/strauss-kahn-accuser-seeks-to-protect-credibility-lawyer-says.html
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Illuzzi-Orbon, who was appointed last year as chief of the office’s new hate crimes unit, is one of two new prosecutors assigned to the sexual assault case, according to a person familiar with the matter

Assistant District Attorney Ann Prunty also is working on the case, said the person, who didn’t want to be identified because staffing decisions aren’t public.

“It’s a serious case. It’s also a press case,” said New York defense attorney Thomas Curran, a former Manhattan prosecutor. “The DA’s office is going to bring whatever assets it has to bear on that case. And having people like Joan and Ann available is the envy of any prosecutor’s office.”

Erin Duggan, chief spokeswoman for the district attorney, declined to comment on staffing.

Karen Friedman Agnifilo, chief of the trial division at the district attorney’s office, recused herself from the case. Her husband, Marc Agnifilo, is a lawyer with Brafman & Associates and has been working on Strauss-Kahn’s defense.
INteresting, The case needs more talent so Vance appoints two women. It appears that Vance runs a PC shop. Hopefully this means that they are not putting up their best talent.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 10:02 pm
@hawkeye10,
Egyptian businessman Mahmoud Abdel-Salam Omar busted for sex assault of hotel maid at The Pierre


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An Egyptian businessman has followed in the footsteps of pervy French politician Dominique Strauss-Kahn, sexually assaulting a maid in a swanky Manhattan motel, police said.

Mahmoud Abdel-Salam Omar, 74, the chairman of a leading Middle Eastern salt producer, is accused of locking the 44-year-old hotel employee inside his $900-a-night tenth-floor room at The Pierre on E. 61st St. off 5th Avenue. He had called for room service requesting tissues.

"He locked her in the room and had her trapped," a police source said. "He grabbed her breasts, groped her. He was grinding against her."

The businessman let go and the maid fled, sources said.

The incident happened about 6 p.m. Sunday but was not reported to police until Monday morning.

"Experienced NYPD detectives found the complainant to be credible," said Paul Browne, the NYPD's top spokesman.

Omar was arrested at the hotel Monday afternoon and charged with sexual abuse, unlawful imprisonment, forcible touching and harassment, officials said. He was being held at the 19th precinct on the upper East Side on Monday night.

"When I came in they were all talking about it," said a bellman at the hotel, who declined to give his name. "When she came to his room he got carried away. He started grabbing at her. He wouldn't let her go."

The maid has worked at the hotel about a year, coworkers said. She did not return to work Monday.

"I don't want to say it but he tried to rape her," the bellman added. "It's a total copycat of what happened with the French guy."

Before becoming chairman of the Egyptian salt company, El-Mex Salines Co., Omar was head of the Bank of Alexandria in Egypt.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/05/30/2011-05-30_egyptian_businessman_mahmoud_abdelsalam_omar_busted_in_sex_assault_of_hotel_maid.html#ixzz1NtomTV9l
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 10:06 pm
@hawkeye10,
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The case needs more talent so Vance appoints two women...Hopefully this means that they are not putting up their best talent.

Maybe those women are the best talent. Laughing

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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 10:15 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Egyptian businessman Mahmoud Abdel-Salam Omar busted for sex assault of hotel maid at The Pierre

Well, thanks for posting that. It certainly seems to lend credibility to what happened at the Sofitel Hotel, doesn't it? Perhaps these sorts of incidents aren't that uncommon.

And this man is 74...that makes Strauss-Kahn seem like a boy by comparison.

I think hotel workers will be getting those panic buttons--sounds like they need them.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 10:18 pm
@firefly,
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Well, thanks for posting that. It certainly seems to lend credibility to what happened at the Sofitel Hotel, doesn't it? Perhaps these sorts of incidents aren't that uncommon.
Or it means that men are more at risk at hotels from scheming women making false accusations than we were previously aware of....

Or that when one woman figures out a get rich scheme that others will quickly take it and run with it.....
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 10:39 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Or it means that men are more at risk at hotels from scheming women making false accusations than we were previously aware of....

Or that when one woman figures out a get rich scheme that others will quickly take it and run with it.....

Because you say libelous things like that, you should have no problem understanding why the hotel maid in the Strauss-Kahn case needs a team of her own lawyers to help protect her reputation.

You give a man accused of violent felonies not only the presumption of complete innocence, but you dishonestly describe his criminal charges as being "minor sexual assaults". But, you have yet to give any presumption of innocence to the woman who alleges she was the victim of the attack by Strauss-Kahn--you seem to have no hesitation about saying you think she is lying--which is an accusation of perjury against her, for which there is absolutely no evidence.

Your comments in this thread say more about your character, or lack of it, than they do about the DSK case. You were right, you are "twisted".
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 10:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
This man rapes maid storyline is already beginning to sound like the father sexually abuses his little girl so he should not be able see his little girl but needs to pay child support scam, and the we need to drum up business so we will create some victims repressed memory scam, and the I want attention and my teacher is a jerk so my teacher molested me scam....the rape scare sold by the feminists bears fruit, as a people raised on a diet of stories of how much men suck will believe any story that has men doing evil to women, even the highly improbable.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 10:47 pm
@firefly,
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Because you say libelous things like that, you should have no problem understanding why the hotel maid in the Strauss-Kahn case needs a team of her own lawyers to help protect her reputation.
What I said is no more libelous than what people who attack DSK's credibility say, the maid and DSK are supposed to be equal, right? Contrary to the line that feminists are trying to sell currently, the one who claims to be victim does not have any more right to be believed than does the one she has called abuser.
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Your comments in this thread say more about your character, or lack of it, than they do about the DSK case
I believe in equality, and you dont...I am the better person here, I have the higher level of morality.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 11:04 pm
@hawkeye10,
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What I said is no more libelous than what people who attack DSK's credibility are, the maid and DSK are supposed to be equal, right? Contrary to the line that feminists are trying to sell currently, the one who claims to be victim does not have any more right to be believed than does the one she has called abuser.

The difference is that Strauss-Kahn is charged with very serious crimes, violent felonies, and a grand jury felt there was sufficient evidence of these crimes to take the case to trial--and the evidence presented to them included more than the alleged victim's testimony. Strauss-Kahn's credibility has been brought into question by a grand jury indictment.The alleged victim has not been charged with any crimes, nor is there any evidence she has committed any crimes--including filing a false police report, or perjury before a grand jury.
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I believe in equality, and you dont...I am the better person here, I have the higher level of morality.

http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq45/mosher666_2009/media2.gif
That's the best laugh I've had today. Thanks. Laughing


hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 11:14 pm
@firefly,
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The difference is that Strauss-Kahn is charged with very serious crimes, violent felonies, and a grand jury felt there was sufficient evidence of these crimes to take the case to trial--and the evidence presented to them included more than the alleged victim's testimony. Strauss-Kahn's credibility has been brought into question by a grand jury indictment.The alleged victim has not been charged with any crimes, nor is there any evidence she has committed any crimes--including filing a false police report, or perjury before a grand jury
Oh I see, libel means contradicting the state according to you. That figures. You really dont need to work on your resume for getting a bureaucrat job with North Korea or Iran, you are ready now.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 12:18 am
@firefly,
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No, that's not true. DSK's team will try to destroy this woman's character and reputation--both in the media, and in the courtroom--and everyone knows that, including the lawyers assisting her. You might find this hard to believe, but her good name might be very important to her.


Let see the state is the one who would be protecting her good name and doing a damn good job of it as most people do not even know her damn name in the US.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 12:25 am
@firefly,
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The woman in the rape case involving the two NYPD officers made a mistake by lodging her civil suit before the criminal case ended--the defense used it against her at trial by claiming she was a gold-digger who fabricated her rape allegation. Why would the hotel maid want to risk damaging her own credibility by prematurely filing a civil suit?


And only a fool would buy into three lawyers working for her and she not looking for a big big payday.

Sorry most middle class people have enough dealings with lawyers to know that they are not spending hundreds of billable hours out of the goodness of their hearts.

I know you trying hard to sell that idea but I do not think anyone is buying including any likely jury members.

Now for the reasons already given a US civil judgment against DKS is likely good for only wiping her ass and her lawyers asses.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 12:32 am
@firefly,
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On November 3, 2009, Vance won the general election with a 91 percent share of the votes cast. I don't think he is worried about his job right now
.


Nixon won the presidential overwhelmingly and then needed to resign within a year.

Bush after Desert Storm had one hell of an approval rating and then could not get re-elected shortly afterward.

If he keep screwing up he will not win anything in the future in New York State including his current job.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 12:34 am
@firefly,
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I don't see anything unusual about her having her own lawyers. This is a high profile, highly publicized case. A great many things are being said about this woman, and will continue to be said about her, and she needs someone who can speak for her, and defend her, in the media, and who can help to protect her from slander and libel.


Please please please name me one other case in the legal history of this country where a rape victim had three lawyers not one lawyer three lawyers .

Come on how silly can you be here...............
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 12:39 am
@hawkeye10,
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Or it means that men are more at risk at hotels from scheming women making false accusations than we were previously aware of....

Or that when one woman figures out a get rich scheme that others will quickly take it and run with it.....


Agree it look like the police is getting in league with schemes to blackmail wealthy men in New York City and that is going to be very very bad for business in short order.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 12:46 am
@BillRM,
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Agree it look like the police is getting in league with schemes to blackmail wealthy men in New York City and that is going to be very very bad for business in short order.
YOu'll notice that DSK's current cleaning crew is all male.
 

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