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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 09:15 pm
@firefly,
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That is funny! ROFL
The guy likes women, sexually and otherwise, so of course you want to make fun of him. Women getting men hot an bothered is what the sex haters like you are trying to stop.
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 09:23 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
The guy likes women, sexually and otherwise, so of course you want to make fun of him. Women getting men hot an bothered is what the sex haters like you are trying to stop.

No one will ever accuse you of having a sense of humor. Laughing

That's a funny picture.

Barack's hand and face say it all..
http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/4ddeaba4ccd1d57d2c150000/dominique-strauss-kahn-obama-barack.jpg
Whoa, boy!
Irishk
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 09:27 pm
@firefly,
It's hilarious!!! Laughing
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 09:28 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
No one will ever accuse you of having a sense of humor
What you call humor on A2K is without fail debasement and degradation.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 09:31 pm
Reject the feminism of victimhood
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.I am ashamed that women are using their solidarity for victims of the executioners without thank you. I am ashamed that barely emerged from the shadows of serfdom, they subject the man to light sordid a new Inquisition. I am ashamed that by protecting a woman, it also does not protect the rights of abjection public disgrace. I am ashamed that to wrest a victim to humiliation, they agree the right to humiliate, without remorse.

I am ashamed that, blessing their gender, they have the taste of cursing each other. The male part of the human condition, and, whatever his crime, there is no reason for Women to be excluded. I am ashamed for women when an accused is hanged on the gallows without trial for a global arena, even for women's rights. Today a man, a sinner, burning at the stake, and women are silent. A man is in the den of stoning, and stoning to slay, are silent. A man atones for the punishment of unrepentant sex, and women are silent. This silence he will avenge the injuries of the victim? I do not know, but it will sound the trumpet of vile in our victory. The virtue of women is not built on the fall of man. It is wrong to defend the cause of women than yield to the crowds punitive.

Men now, and not to women, the culpability of desire, the crime of Eros, the torments of the flesh, which condemn them to rot on straw in a dungeon. Whatever the legality of this trial, I can not help but find appalling execution. Many men in history have defended women. I will no longer ashamed of being a woman if women accept, on behalf of their own cause on behalf of mutual concern between the sexes, on behalf of a single human condition, to defend, in turn, a man.
http://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2011/05/26/refusons-le-feminisme-victimaire_1527716_3232.html

Translated by Google
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 10:12 pm
@hawkeye10,
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/bro/lowres/bron2301l.jpg
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 10:28 pm
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Jurors and Reasonable Doubt

May 26, 2011
Gerald Shargel is a criminal defense lawyer in New York and has been a practitioner-in-residence at Brooklyn Law School for the last eight years.

I strongly believe that Dominique Strauss-Kahn can and will get a fair trial in New York. At present there may be a wide segment of the population -- filled with media fed salacious detail and the indelible image of the perp walks — that presume him guilty.


But after more than 40 years of trying cases before juries, I know this: Jurors rise to the occasion and usually get it right. While a court’s instruction that the defendant is presumed innocent may well ring hollow — in my view, jurors start out by intuitively presuming guilt — jurors will nevertheless drill down on the facts of the case in a serious effort to deliver a fair and just verdict.

I also believe that it may be very difficult for the prosecution to convict D.S.K. The facts of this case, at least what we now know, lend themselves to vigorous debate. The details of the case are daily raked over at water coolers and dinner parties. Without a knife or a gun — apparently the only weapon D.S.K. possessed was his wallet -- how was the woman forced to perform oral sex? What about the lunch with his daughter or the French conspiracy to dethrone D.S.K.?

The case seems peppered with inconsistencies and improbabilities — the kind of inconsistencies and improbabilities that create reasonable doubt — a concept that Manhattan jurors easily embrace


http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/05/26/can-strauss-kahn-get-a-fair-trial/jurors-understand-reasonable-doubt

Six opinions are found in this debate, above is one of them...
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 11:10 pm
@firefly,
You know FF, the result of all this, and you're certainly not the only one to blame, is that there really is no sense at all of the presumption of innocence. Have those idiots so got to you [the 'you' could be glossed as the general 'you'] that you stoop to this?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 12:45 am
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Female staff at the Manhattan hotel where former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn allegedly sexually assaulted a chambermaid were being allowed Thursday to wear trousers instead of skirts, after a protest from employees, a union official said.

Sofitel, a hotel chain that prides itself on a traditional dress code, made the concession amid concern about the vulnerability of chambermaids after Strauss-Kahn was charged over allegations that he sexually assaulted and tried to rape a 32-year-old housekeeper.

The alteration of its uniform code followed a meeting between staff and management that was also attended by a New York Hotel Workers Union representative, according to The (London) Times. "There had been some complaints about the uniform," union spokesman John Turchiano told the newspaper.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/strauss_kahn_sex_attack_hotel_now_5yCSmUOWW2AIwyUzkUXjgL#ixzz1NX51TRh8


Well that took no time at all.....No doubt we know that it was the showing of a little leg that got DSK's motor running right? I mean by some accounts he is ready to jump every good looking female who crosses his path but reports are probably wrong.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 06:20 am
@JTT,
How utterly demeaning to women all this is. Talk about patronising. It's getting like a seraglio with eunuchs as guards.

I've seen six women apply black boot polish to a young man's balls with fiendish glee.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 07:31 am
@firefly,
Have your taken note Hawkeye how Firefly had also been attacking DSK for the crime of daring to be wealthy enough be afford top level housing as his lawyers handle the charges against him?

Anything to generate dislike for the man even if it had zero to do with the claimed sexual assault.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 07:32 am
@spendius,
What does the team think in relation to the men we have seen in this case, from Judge Michael Obus through counsel, court officials, investigating officers and prison officials, taking their fair share when at home (or at work) of washing dishes, making beds, dusting, tidying up, mopping floors, doing the laundry, pegging out the clothes, fetching the groceries, putting them away, being screwed to order after medications, and cleaning toilets. What feminists call "shitwork" and which is often done by women after an 8 hour shift so that men can live in a style which their own salary would not permit.

Do they really think that their indignation freakout at a scapegoat for making an alleged grab at one woman in one short moment washes away all the guilt of them demanding from women that they give up their lives and aspirations to their service and convenience?

You're being had girls. I'm amazed that women are not up in arms at this cheapskate attempt to make it look like these men are rooting for them with nothing more than a serious mien turned on to order for the cameras.

As if "male supremacy" doesn't exist thanks to these ranks of wonderfully liberated gents who steal the lives of women for their own convenience day in day out for years and years.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 07:42 am
@spendius,
Beware of men who call others misogynists.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 07:46 am
@hawkeye10,
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a chambermaid were being allowed Thursday to wear trousers instead of skirts, after a protest from employees, a union official said.


For their customers safety I would suggest firing all the female staff and replacing them with males.

If would take a brave and stupid male to place his freedom and wealth in the hands of hotel maids that had this example of winning the lottery by crying rape on a wealthy customer.

Love to see how this hotel room occupation rate is since the charges against DSK.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 07:52 am
@spendius,
I seem to remember you called me a mysogynist, or rather implied that to be the case in another thread. I've been wary of you ever since I read your posts, mostly because I didn't think it was possible to take that amount of LSD and survive.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 08:02 am
@izzythepush,
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I seem to remember you called me a mysogynist, or rather implied that to be the case in another thread.


Don't bother seeming to remember izzy. Quote what I said that you presumably are seeming to object to.

I have never even seen LSD.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 08:08 am
@izzythepush,
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I seem to remember you called me a mysogynist
I am sure that is an exaggeration on your part . Spendi knows you are too stupid to do anything systematically .
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 08:30 am
@JTT,
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You know FF, the result of all this, and you're certainly not the only one to blame, is that there really is no sense at all of the presumption of innocence.

There is not only sense to the legal presumption of innocence, it is an essential factor for the jury to be aware of at the outset of a trial.

But I draw a clear distinction, which I've been making all along, between the legal presumption of innocence at trial and the obvious fact that people are arrested, charged, and indicted, because there is also a fairly high suspicion of guilt. The jury must try to start with a blank slate--they must presume innocence until the evidence presented at trial convinces them otherwise, beyond a reasonable doubt.

But, we are far from a trial in this case. We're in the court of public opinion about a case that won't even be arraigned for another week. We haven't heard any evidence in this case and all we really know is that DSK was arrested and what he is charged with. And we know something about DSK's past behaviors toward women, which really have no legal bearing on what happened in that hotel suite, or on this case, but which certainly cause people to have an impression of the man and to form some general opinions about him and his character. And there is nothing wrong with people having such opinions, we are not jurors, we are not sitting in a courtroom trying to ferret out the truth of what took place. Right now, we have no real idea of what took place. And all we are doing now is little more than shooting the breeze.

This case has absolutely nothing to do with feminism, but say the words, "rape" or "sexual assault", and Hawkeye goes into his usual diatribe about feminism and "unfair sex laws". Except that, in this case, no one, including the French, seems to be seriously questioning the specific laws under which DSK has been charged. He has been charged under the forcible sexual assault standard, the type of crime that pretty much everyone regards as a "real crime". Feminism had nothing to do with those sorts of laws, those are the ones that have always been on the books.

Similarly, this case has nothing to do with women in general, or male/female relationships, but Spendius and Ionus, who simply like to voice their personal views on such matters, have just pounced on another thread where they can do so. There was no "relationship" between DSK and the hotel maid, as far as we know, they were strangers to each other. This case has no general relevance to men in general, unless one chooses to view DSK as somehow representing all men, an assumption which would be blatantly foolish. It has no relevance to women in general, unless one assumes that the alleged victim is speaking for all women, rather than reporting only her own experience, which would be another blatantly foolish assumption. So, all the digressions about "women" in this thread have nothing to do with the legal case we are discussing, but they give some apparently embittered men another chance to get their rocks off about women.

And, no one who followed the rape thread, would have doubted that BillRM would have begun carrying on about "false accusations"--according to him, all women who report sexual assaults are guilty of lying until proved otherwise. The alleged victim is never given the presumption of innocence, she is always suspect. The real victim, in his view, is any man accused of sexual assault, and the police are nothing more than tools who are manipulated by these deceitful women. The hotel maid in the DSK case shouldn't even be concerned about whether she was sexually assaulted or not because, according to BillRM, she's in for a financial windfall, either from a settlement or a civil suit, so she'll be well compensated and should have no complaints--thus, DSK should be seen as a potential benefactor rather than as someone who has possibly harmed this woman and caused her life-long psychological or emotional damage.

So, knowing absolutely none of the real facts in this case, several men in this thread seem to have decided the real victim is DSK, and by extension, all men are being victimized by his arrest and by how he has been treated. No presumption of "innocence" has been afforded to the police, the D.A., or the woman who reported being assaulted--some malice, no matter how far-fetched, must be attributed to all of them. And throw the media into that too, since the humiliating perp walk is for their benefit, so they can get the photos that help them to sell newspapers. A possible criminal must never be regarded or treated like a criminal, particularly when he is a rich, prominent white man, because, despite the evidence which lead to an arrest and an indictment, we should all pretend that he is completely innocent--not just legally presumed innocent at trial, but actually innocent beyond a doubt. We shouldn't even insult his character by requiring bail, or hinting he might well be a flight risk. He's obviously innocent, and he'll want to show up in court because he wants to clear his good name. He wouldn't try to skip town...Rolling Eyes.

No, JTT, "those idiots" haven't gotten to me. I've heard their now familiar, boring routines before and I really don't expect them to respond any differently. In my mind, this is just another sexual assault case, and like most such cases, it will be difficult to prove at trial to a jury's satisfaction--something that might have little or nothing to do with this man's actual "innocence". These are just difficult cases to prosecute. And I suspect that this case, unlike the average case of its type, will hinge on acrobatic legal maneuvers by this particular defense team, because that is what they are known for. So, only because of that, will I probably bother to follow this trial. I have no personal interest in seeing this man either convicted or acquitted. I like watching legal gamesmanship.

And, since we are at the water cooler stage of bantering about this case, and far from hearing the actual evidence at trial, I see nothing wrong with poking fun at DSK, particularly as it relates to his general sexual appetites or his apparent sense of entitlement--both of which were common knowledge before this case ever came about.

BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 08:39 am
@firefly,
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The alleged victim is never given the presumption of innocence, she is always suspect. The real victim, in his view, is any man accused of sexual assault, and the police are nothing more than tools who are manipulated by these deceitful women. The hotel maid in the DSK case shouldn't even be concerned about whether she was sexually assaulted or not because, according to BillRM, she's in for a financial windfall, either from a settlement or a civil suit, so she'll be well compensated and should have no complaints--thus, DSK should be seen as a potential benefactor rather than as someone who has possibly harmed this woman and caused her life-long psychological or emotional damage.


It matter not as in the Kobe case whether the "victim' is a victim in fact or not she is still likely to become wealthy over these charges and she have tens of millions of reasons to charge DSk.

Within days she had a civil lawyer working for her and with millions on the line I do not know who will buy into the idea that he is doing pro bono work out of the goodness of his lawyer heart.

DSK is not trying to become wealthy off her or take her freedoms away from her so given that we are to presumed him innocent until if and when he is found guilty the flip side is that we presume that she is lying until proven otherwise in court.

That is not even considering that her story as is publicly known does not made any kind of sense.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 09:03 am

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/imf_bankster_271.html

Was Arrest of Top IMF Bankster Part of Planned Sting Operation?



By Victor Thorn

Could the high-profile arrest of International Monetary Fund director Dominique Strauss Kahn (DSK) on sexual assault charges in New York City be part of a struggle between banking cartels at the highest levels?

To contextualize this affair, many theorists depict the New World Order in vague, monolithic terms. However, the elites are sometimes prone to power struggles between various factions that are constantly vying for a larger slice of the pie. So, rather than being totally infallible and monolithic, these conflicting camps may not be above “eating their own” when circumstances provide no other option.

On May 15, DSK may have become the latest casualty in this game of financial hardball, possibly targeted by rivals that have trillions to lose.

DSK may well have raped the 32-year-old Guinean woman who leveled an array of accusations against him. Other women have also emerged with allegations that DSK forced them into performing sexual acts against their will.

Or could the woman in question be a siren, who was used to capitalize on DSK’s reputation as a lecherous philanderer?

Curiously, one of French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s supporters, Jonathan Pinet, tweeted news of the arrest before the New York Police Department even announced it. DSK intended to run against—and polls show he probably would have defeated— the increasingly unpopular Sarkozy in next year’s election.

Stranger yet, two weeks prior to this incident at New York City’s $3,000 per night Sofitel Hotel, DSK, as reported in London’s Telegraph, predicted in an April 28 interview with Liberation magazine that his obsession with women might be a vulnerable spot for his opponents to exploit.

The Telegraph noted, “Conspiracy theories abounded in France . . . following the publication of a curiously premonitory interview in Liberation newspaper. In the then off-the-record discussion . . . the [IMF] chief said he could imagine a scenario where he was framed for a rape he did not commit.”

Did Sarkozy conspire with forces interested in matters far beyond mere national politics? DSK—mirroring the aims of billionaire globetrotter George Soros— sought to replace the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency with a de facto IMFUN financial tool commonly known as special drawing rights (SDRs).

To show his resolve, DSK pulled the trigger on Feb. 10 via an IMF report that specifically mentioned the introduction of this supranational one-world currency that challenged the dollar’s dominance. CNN’s website reported the matter, as did other sources.

Back in January, DSK appeared on BBC Radio to speak of his plans for a global central bank. He boasted, “Never in the past has an institution like the IMF been as necessary as it has been today. . . . Now is the time to do it, and I think we’re ready to do it.”

On April 9, as reported by AFP, Soros hoped for the emergence of a new monetary model at New Hampshire’s Bretton Woods II conference.

Essentially, DSK planned on burying not only the dollar, but also the euro, replacing them with a new basket of currencies that included China’s renminbi.

Did DSK place himself at the center of a global currency war? Possibly, for the UN is already releasing coins called “unos,” while the IMF’s SDR bonds would compete directly with U.S. treasuries.

DSK also suggested what would be a mortal deathblow to America—pricing oil in SDRs rather than dollars. Of course, since virtually every nation in the world must stockpile U.S. currency to buy oil, our nation’s spending is effectively subsidized on a global scale. If this system was derailed, the U.S. could no longer keep spending beyond its means (i.e., a $14 trillion plus debt). Undoubtedly, most citizens’ standard of living would dramatically plummet.




America’s survival is at stake, for if the dollar tanks, the U.S. will crumble. China, ready to exploit such an economic crisis, seeks to use its political capital in order to attain greater clout on the international stage. In 2009, Zhou Xiaochuan, governor of China’s central bank, approved of IMF plans to replace the dollar with SDRs.

The EU also faced dangers in that DSK harbors a close friendship with Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou. In this capacity, DSK facilitated the disastrous bailouts that are undermining the EU’s survival. Further, if DSK defeated Sarkozy in next year’s election, international bankers would have an inexorable grip on France’s political hierarchy.

DSK, in league with Soros’s European Central Bankers (ECB), has failed miserably in managing IMF bailouts. His downfall, therefore, is immensely advantageous to those who benefit from a currency system dominated by the dollar.

One of these men, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, went on the offensive by characterizing DSK as “obviously not in a position to run the IMF.” Then, within hours, John Lipsky, former vice chairman and chief economist at JPMorgan Investment Bank, filled DSK’s seat as IMF director. Notably, Lipsky—a Council on Foreign Relations member—is prodollar and pro-euro while less supportive of SDRs.

Overall, DSK’s political demise means that his stranglehold over the IMF has been weakened and the other financial officials noted here can advance their agendas, all the while greatly enhancing Sarkozy’s odds of reelection in 2012



 

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