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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:18 pm
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Housekeepers at unionized hotels make $803.93 a week and are due for a 3.5 percent wage increase in July, which would bring their pay to $832.07, union officials said
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/nyregion/10hotels.html

Plus special pays and a decent medical package. Our alleged victim gets a total package of at least $60K a year, and ya this is New York, but still she is not exactly the destitute immigrant that she has been sold as.
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:21 pm
@hawkeye10,
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"The prosecution needs the witness in this case."


Very badly actually. Has the President of Guinea made a move yet?

As I said a long while back--the maid has the NY Justice system by the balls. If I was them I would remand her in custody. If she flew the coop is a scenario I don't think they are ready to face.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:24 pm
@firefly,
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No wonder the maid just acquired two more lawyers-


She did not. She hasn't the moolah. They were acquired for her. I say for her but that is just a euphemism. They were acquired on behalf of those who acquired them and are covering their asses as best they know how.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:25 pm
@spendius,
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If I was them I would remand her in custody. If she flew the coop is a scenario I don't think they are ready to face.
She effectively is already, certainly in a hotel somewhere with 24/7 state minders keeping an eye on her, using standard manipulation methods to keep her on the program that they want to see.
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panzade
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:27 pm
@Ionus,
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Emancipation Act


What are you talking about? There's no comparison.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:33 pm
@firefly,
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The defense was referring to reports that Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s DNA was found on the uniform of the hotel housekeeper.


Oh dearie, dearie me. She had to wear a uniform had she? I bet ff would leave a social function if another woman was wearing a similar frock.

Did nobody protest about the level of abuse involved in making women wear uniforms unless they are State employees. I protested to the landlord in the pub about his putting the barmaids in uniforms. And after persistant protests he relented and they wear what they like now. Which is a very good thing I must say and they look much better and happier now.
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Irishk
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:34 pm
@spendius,
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If I was them I would remand her in custody.

Would that work in the UK? I know from the article I read yesterday in the Guardian that there's a controversy regarding the long term imprisonment of illegals in England, but surely it wouldn't be possible if she had a valid passport?
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firefly
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:38 pm
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Can Strauss-Kahn's sexual history be used against him?
By Noeleen Walder and Toni Clarke
NEW YORK
May 26, 2011

NEW YORK (Reuters) - In the days since Dominique Strauss-Kahn's arrest for the attempted rape of a hotel maid, lurid details of the ex-IMF chief's past sexual exploits -- both alleged and admitted -- have continued to fill the tabloids.

But legal experts say that prosecutors will face an uphill battle if they try to introduce any of the encounters as evidence in the criminal case against Strauss-Kahn.

"What the courts want to avoid is showing that he's done it so many times that it's more likely that he did it this time, and to substitute that reasoning for evidence," said well-known defense lawyer Gerald Shargel, who has represented such clients as John Gotti Jr. and disbarred attorney Marc Dreier.

Existing New York law is "tantamount to a presumption" that prior acts of sexual misconduct cannot be introduced at trial.

But there is a limited set of exceptions under which such evidence can be used, for example to show there is something unique about the way a defendant conducted prior sexual activity, to rebut a defense of consensual sex, or to impeach a defendant's testimony.

In contrast, the federal rules of evidence -- which do not apply to New York courts, where Strauss-Kahn's case is being heard -- permit prior sexual acts to be introduced in a sexual-assault case for any purpose.

On May 15, Strauss-Kahn, 62, was pulled off an Air France plane by authorities after a maid at the Sofitel Hotel in midtown Manhattan said he had attempted to rape her and forced her to perform oral sex on him. Strauss-Kahn, who has vehemently maintained his innocence, stepped down from his post at the IMF last week.

After spending several nights at Rikers Island jail, he was granted bail on May 19 on the condition that he be placed under the 24-hour watch of armed guards. He was indicted on seven counts, including attempted rape and first-degree criminal sexual act.

REPEATED EXCUSES

Meanwhile, the media have painted a picture of Strauss-Kahn as a well-known womanizer who has been repeatedly excused for his past behavior on both sides of the Atlantic.

In 2008, Strauss-Kahn admitted to a consensual affair with Piroska Nagy, an economist he worked with at the IMF. While the IMF reprimanded him in that instance, he was cleared of any abuse of power.

In a letter to the IMF board, Nagy, who has since left the Fund, said she "got sucked in" by the "charismatic" ex-IMF chief's persistent advances. She characterized Strauss-Kahn as "a man with a problem that may make him ill-equipped to lead an institution where women work under his command."

Law enforcement sources told Reuters they are reviewing the Nagy case.

During Strauss-Kahn's arraignment last week, assistant district attorney John McConnell said that Strauss-Kahn had reportedly "engaged in conduct similar to the conduct alleged in this complaint on at least one other occasion."

A source close to the investigation told Reuters that McConnell was referring to an alleged encounter with Tristan Banon, a journalist who has accused Strauss-Kahn of violently attacking her while she interviewed him in 2002. Banon is reportedly considering filing charges, but her lawyer told Reuters last week she would not testify to U.S. investigators.

And on Tuesday, a law enforcement source told Reuters that the day before the alleged attack on the maid, Strauss-Kahn asked another Sofitel employee if she would meet him after she finished work. The employee reportedly declined, saying that it was against hotel policy and that she could lose her job.

Even moments before his arrest, the New York Post reported, Strauss-Kahn made a sexually suggestive comment to an Air France flight attendant.

A BALANCING TEST

Can prosecutors convince a judge to allow them to use any of this information in a possible trial against Strauss-Kahn? Legal experts suggest there is little doubt that they will try.

"That is a highly-charged issue that is resolved pre-trial by motion," said defense lawyer Bradley Simon, of Simon & Partners.

Michael Bachrach, a defense lawyer who represented Al Qaeda conspirator Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, said that ultimately the judge presiding over Strauss-Kahn's case will apply a balancing test to decide whether evidence of past acts should be admitted.

"The judge will balance the relevance and usefulness of the evidence to establish the current charges, versus the danger of unfairly confusing the jury into thinking that just because a past allegation had occurred that this means the present charges are true," Bachrach said.

He said that courts generally are concerned that introducing past allegations will confuse or inflame a jury. But a century-old New York case does give prosecutors a potential avenue for admitting such evidence.

In People v. Molineux, decided in 1901, the Court of Appeals ruled that prosecutors can in limited circumstances introduce evidence to show that a defendant has a "signature" or unusual pattern of criminal activity.

For example, if Strauss-Kahn has a history of approaching cleaning women in hotels and trying to coerce them into having sex, that would probably be admissible in this case, former prosecutor Paul Callan of Callan Koster Brady & Brennan said.

OPENING THE DOOR

Another way prosecutors could introduce evidence of past sexual encounters would be if the defense "opened the door" by, for example, arguing that the sex was consensual.

If his lawyers made that claim -- which they appeared to do during his arraignment when they argued that "the forensic evidence ... are not consistent with forcible encounter" -- or argued that Strauss-Kahn was framed or entrapped, that could allow the prosecution to demonstrate that he has done this to women in the past, Callan said. And if prosecutors uncover other instances in which Strauss-Kahn has attempted to "overcome a woman's resistance," a judge might allow that evidence, he said.

"The defense has to tread very, very carefully because they might trigger the prosecutors' right to introduce evidence of his alleged misconduct with any women," Callan said.

But Callan said he did not think prosecutors could convince a judge to allow testimony about Strauss-Kahn's reputation as a ladies' man or the overtures he has allegedly made to other women. The mere claim that he is a Lothario would be inadmissible, he said.

This could all change if Strauss-Kahn testifies. If defense attorneys put him on the stand, prosecutors could use his sexual affairs to attack his credibility, Callan said.

Ultimately, it's too early to predict what will happen in the courtroom. But Shargel said he suspects that the trial ultimately will be "about what happened in the hotel room on that day, not the life and times of Dominique Strauss-Kahn."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/26/us-strausskahn-priors-idUSTRE74P5NM20110526


If they let in his past sexual history, this trial would take years. Laughing
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:41 pm
@panzade,
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What are you talking about? There's no comparison.
That was my point . You cant steal my point . Get your own . The Emancipation occurred because the people with power saw it as a must . Women got their rights not because of a shift in power but because those with power saw it had to happen . Increasing numbers of women in law and law enforcement will not do a thing to stop powerful people from thinking they own the world . Prosecuting offenders will . You have insulted the men AND women who currently prosecute offenders .
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:44 pm
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Guinea

Although Guinea is experiencing one of the smaller AIDS epidemics in sub-Saharan Africa, it is considered a high-prevalence country, with 1.3 percent of the adult population estimated to be HIV positive in 2009. This estimate, from a population-based survey, is significantly lower than the 2001 and 2004 estimates, which ranged from 2.8 percent to 4.2 percent and were based on surveys of high-risk groups such as pregnant women and tuberculosis patients.


A 0.0000000001% chance would get me flacciditating. Fast.
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panzade
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:07 pm
@Ionus,
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The Emancipation occurred because the people with power saw it as a must .

Maybe...I'm over analyzing this profound statement.

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Women got their rights not because of a shift in power but because those with power saw it had to happen


Was there a violent women's revolt like the slave revolt in Jamaica that spurred the Eman. Act?

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Increasing numbers of women in law and law enforcement will not do a thing to stop powerful people from thinking they own the world

It has stopped a lot of wink-wink-nudge-nudge that had accompanied sexual assault complaints.
It certainly will make people who think they own the world like...hmmm Khan think twice, that's for sure.

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You have insulted the men AND women who currently prosecute offenders .

No, I believe I only insulted you.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:22 pm
@panzade,
Look at the number of people trying to take away power in the Arab world from the powers that be . That just didn't happen for the Emancipation or the right to vote for women . Power was surrendered without a fight . Do you see the sisters as the only ones who believe in the rule of law ? Men are doing a lousy job aren't they ? Women will seize power by becoming attorneys and DA's....then men will be humble !! Physically inferior women will not have to over compensate any more !! The lamb will lay down with the lion ! ( it will be too scared shitless to sleep, but that's beside the point)

I think you understand this very well, you are just pretending to be stupid .

Quote:
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You have insulted the men AND women who currently prosecute offenders .
No, I believe I only insulted you.
Oh, sorry, I didnt realise....hrumpf....I am deeply offended . Actually, I'm not...can you explain the insult ?
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:34 pm
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At a press conference Thursday, Scott Stringer, the Manhattan borough president, said he would be sending a bill to Mr. Strauss-Kahn for the extra services the city is having to provide in the Tribeca area as a result of Mr. Strauss-Kahn's move, including round-the-clock police in the area. He estimated the costs could be in the "millions of dollars."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304066504576347882512181322.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Good--DSK should pay for the extra services he is costing the City. He's not exactly trying to keep a low profile by serving his house arrest in a $50,000 a month luxury townhouse. The new place is already a tourist attraction.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:38 pm
@firefly,
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Good--DSK should pay for the extra services he is costing the City. He's not exactly trying to keep a low profile by serving his house arrest in a $50,000 a month luxury townhouse. The new place is already a tourist attraction.
That will certainly turn around the French perception that we are uncivilized....But thanks for showing us all yet again how vindictive you are.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:39 pm
@firefly,
He hasnt been found guilty yet...why should he pay a cent if he is innocent ? You sisters like a good lynching, dont you ?
panzade
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:40 pm
@Ionus,
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can you explain the insult ?


No.
I don't know what I was thinking.
In any case, I honestly don't believe I insulted anyone.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:42 pm
@panzade,
Fair enough . But you did say that when we get more women in law and law enforcement then we will see more prosecutions . I can only see that in one light...the current men and women are not doing their job .
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:44 pm
@Ionus,
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why should he pay a cent if he is innocent
It is the anti French thing, and he will not pay anything but he lawyers will get some more billable hours. American government increasingly does pull this **** though, if the police are called to do anything that they dont want to do they often present a bill to someone. Pretty soon we will be back to the medieval system where those who are found guilty will be presented with a bill for the confinement the way we are going. So far as civilization goes America is now full speed in reverse.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:47 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

Fair enough . But you did say that when we get more women in law and law enforcement then we will see more prosecutions . I can only see that in one light...the current men and women are not doing their job .
I am sure that he got that word for word from a feminist PR piece, as I have certainly seen that spiel before in efforts to change the hiring standards so that the ranks of women in the police forces can be quickly expanded to what the feminists think that it should be.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
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those who are found guilty will be presented with a bill
In China those executed have a bill sent to the family, including the cost of the bullet even though the state makes a killing on selling organs .
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