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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 12:56 pm
@spendius,
I think that you are revealing parts of you that you probably would rather not reveal, Spendi.

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If that sort of circumstantial speculation got you to that point why do you think a guy like that would tackle a woman in her position, an African immigrant cleaner, when Paris was at his mercy in just a few hours? He will have read Flaubert. And seen Alphaville. Even to a tosspot like me she would have been asexual.


Save for the last sentence, that's all pretty much circumstantial speculation.


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ABE5177
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:03 pm
@firefly,
HahahA all the Post covers excepyt the one that matters

witness tampering by friends hotfooting it to pay off relatives to get her to shud up ha ha
http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/05/24/covers/front052411.jpg


panzade
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:07 pm
@spendius,
spendius:He will have read Flaubert. And seen Alphaville. Even to a tosspot like me she would have been asexual.

You still see everything through class-goggles spendi.

The Manhattan D.A.'s office could care less whether their upper class-Flaubert reading fop is refined or not. Perhaps in London his affectations would count for something
Egalite mon amis
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:11 pm
@ABE5177,
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witness tampering by friends hotfooting it to pay off relatives to get her to shud up ha ha
That assertion does not even make sense, as the state already has her Grand Jury Testimony, which it can use at trial both to go after DSK and to charge the maid if she decided to switch sides. Remember that the DA brought her back in front of the Grand Jury for a second day, and while we dont know for sure the reason the most likely reason is to get her completely on the record at that point, to lock her into supporting the state no matter what DSK offered her. I dont think that DSK will try to buy her, but the state certainly thinks lowly of DSK and would not take the chance.

The claims of trying to bribe the extended family in Africa as almost certainly is a smear campaign.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:15 pm
@firefly,
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The alleged victim of Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s attempted rape and sexual attack hired additional legal counsel in anticipation of an assault on her reputation and credibility, her lawyer said.


What with? She's skint isn't she? As you keep pointing out that it is the NYPD prosecuting DSK and not the maid. So how has she started hiring counsel when she can't hire counsel because she can't pay for it. Her weekly wage is not enough to hire counsel for an hour. How does that happen? Why are they not abusing her by taking home 50 times more than she does? And all the other cleaners. (see my previous post).

The taxpayer is hiring her legal counsel. Just as they are prosecuting DSK as you often remind us. It might even be seen as betting on the outcome.

Can she be prevented from returning to Africa?
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:18 pm
@Old Goat,
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and pretty


What a revealing choice of words eh?
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:19 pm
@firefly,
Pass my deepest sympathies to New Yorkers ff.
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Irishk
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:26 pm
@spendius,
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The taxpayer is hiring her legal counsel.

If you mean paying for it, no.
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Can she be prevented from returning to Africa?

No.
Old Goat
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:28 pm
@spendius,
He would also have probably led a life of state protected debauchery for some time, where, if he wants to get his rocks off he will, knowing that there will be no comebacks.
A case of "Any minion will do, as long as they have an adequate receptacle and I can add to my jollies by scaring the **** out of them."

here are two interesting articles that sort of touch on the whys and wherefores


http://www.businessinsider.com/ceo-disease-sex-scandals-2011-5?op=1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arie-kruglanski/strauss-kahn-psychology_b_866577.html

Old Goat
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:40 pm
@spendius,
"What a revealing choice of words eh?"

And now you're goading.

I'm not going there. It was an observation. An opinion of mine, and probably the vast majority of humans around the world if they took a look at a photo of her.

Johnny Depp is handsome. There. I've said it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 01:41 pm
@hawkeye10,
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which it can use at trial both to go after DSK and to charge the maid if she decided to switch sides.


Sorry Hawkeye the courts had ruled that a defended have a constitutional right to face his accuser and have his lawyer crossed examine her testimony so without her they had no case grand jury testimony or not.

The best available evidence rule that had been used when women had not wished to press charges in domestic violence cases had been found by higher courts not to be constitutional.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:01 pm
@firefly,
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Frenchmen of all political stripes and social castes, she wrote, have "stood there aghast," confronted with images of DSK, as he's affectionately known, handcuffed and under arrest in New York.


Your problem ff is that you do not see any reason why they should stand aghast. You think there is something wrong with them reacting like that. That is because you don't understand the signals it sends to a nation which has a highly intellectualised population. Those newspapers would have the same effect.

It would be impossible to explain to you the justification for them being aghast because you wouldn't dare understand it. You need to pretend that there are no long term economic implications from women getting the upper hand. And the French, more than most, know what they are. They have experienced womanhood on top. So did the Romans.

I've read that the French railway system was 50 years behind the rest of Europe because Madame de Pompadour has spent all the money. And Poppaea bankrupted Rome. Posh Spice has a $50,000 engagement ring don't you know. Nero was sentenced to death "in the manner of the ancients" which he managed to avoid by driving a dagger into his neck. I can tell some tales about women getting on top. It isn't even very good sexually. The missionary position is a bit better. The evolutionary position is best though. Economically it is disastrous. Once it starts electing leaders who have been got on top of by a woman the game is getting close to being over.

And that's when women really get put upon.

Does that cursory glimpse explain why the French are "aghast"? They don't live in the moment as much as most.

American women began with their sleeves rolled up. It was a New World and everybody had high hopes for it.

Isn't it true, as I read, that large numbers of successful American men passed away in cardiac units from the stress and strain of being successful and left a very large quantity of money in the hands of their widows who have lived on into their 80s and 90s and invested it in certain institutions which dance to their tune.

Would a very successful and internationally powerful American man be treated as DSK was within a few hours of a cleaning woman's allegations? And don't say that you would like to think so. Never mind what you would like to think.

spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:05 pm
@spendius,
On that analysis ff it is of no consequence whether DSK is innocent or guilty.

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:11 pm
@BillRM,
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Sorry Hawkeye the courts had ruled that a defended have a constitutional right to face his accuser and have his lawyer crossed examine her testimony so without her they had no case grand jury testimony or not.
We need a legal opinion on that...in some states I am told it is not possible to go through without the defendant at the trial. I was reading in a French paper though a legal opinion with a quoted a NY expert saying that NY could go ahead without her if they had to, but then could charge her as accessory after the fact if she did refuse to testify, or then claimed that she did not remember.

Keep in mind too that the feminists are trying right now to write law that would specifically state that sex "victims" dont have to appear in court, and they clearly dont see the Constitution as a problem. We dont believe in following that document too closely these days, its gets in the way of what we want to do. Scotus is guilty of this as well as are the rest of us.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:17 pm
@firefly,
You just know you are being lied to when you read--

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Yet the French displayed a twisted kind of backbone ...


A twisted backbone has as good a chance of being sound as a straight one. Maybe be better. But the writer seeks to convey the idea than it's a weak backbone. That the French are wimps. And, of course, imply something about her reader's backbone. Make them feel good with a few slippery words. That it's sound and superior if it meets Andrea's approval and we don't need Sherlock Holmes to unearth what that looks like.

Your backbone is twisted if you don't dance to Andrea's tune.

Good. Women need it to be.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:22 pm
@hawkeye10,
He had a right to confront his accuser now the state could lock her up as a material witness and threaten her for not testifying however with such pressure to testify not of her own free will but under such threats by the state it would not carry must weight with most juries.

Also if she would take a settlement of a few millions and move out of the country they would not be able touch her either.

To sum up if she is not willing to go forward the case is over at least in the real world.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:40 pm
@BillRM,
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To sum up if she is not willing to go forward the case is over at least in the real world.
You have a lot more faith in the Constitution being followed than I possess. Firefly is clearly closely tied in with NY state law, lets wait to see if she thinks that state can go forward on Grand Jury Testimony alone, without the alleged victim in court. I know that the intent of the Feminists is to allow this in every state, but I am not sure how far they have gotten to this point.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:46 pm
@hawkeye10,
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I know that the intent of the Feminists is to allow this in every state, but I am not sure how far they have gotten to this point.


You know this, do you, Hawk? You know, I think that when the US runs out of foreign bogeymen to scare the populace into supporting their illegal invasions, the Feminists might be just the thing to fill the bill.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:49 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Firefly is clearly closely tied in with NY state law, lets wait to see if she thinks that state can go forward on Grand Jury Testimony alone, without the alleged victim in court


I do not care what Firefly think or claim to think the maid testimony in front of a grand jury can not be used in a trial.

She needs to be available to be question at trial herself.

I am visiting my mother at the moment with low internet bandwidth so I can not get the Supreme Court rulings links on this subject but those rulings are clear.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 02:58 pm
@BillRM,
Ask her why you ended up with such low bandwidth, Bill? Smile
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