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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 04:57 pm
@firefly,
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Are you suggesting that no one with an "important" job should ever be arrested for alleged criminal behavior?


Yes. I am. If the only evidence is somebody's word be it man or woman. And not only with important people. Everybody. That's how things operated in Stalin's day. Being denounced. History all the way back forever.

We are supposed to have grown out of it.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:00 pm
@spendius,
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What evidence had they other than the maid's allegations for their actions.

You said, Spendi, "Obviously NYPD cannot avoid "acting" on a complaint.

Who he was made them leap into to top gear. If other evidence comes out later justifying their stampede it does not alter the facts at the beginning. They wanted the maid to be telling the truth.

How do you know all this? And aren't you contradicting yourself just within these three sentences?

If I was an officer of the law and I knew that there was someone, against whom a criminal complaint had been duly registered [I have to assume this is true], about to fly to another country, it'd be sirens flashing.

Is that really so strange?



Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:10 pm
@Mame,
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has been blown out of proportion here by several men who are continually fueling the fire
Of course the women saying he is already guilty have been dosing the fire ?

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IF he did, indeed, sexually assault someone, he should pay for it
I totally agree .

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IF she is lying, SHE should pay for it
That is very rare...compare the number of false accusations to those that end up with the woman charged....the Libbies wont have it because it MIGHT stop genuine rape victims from coming forward.....no mention is ever made if it might stop false accusers from coming forward and the damage false accusations do to men .

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It's the press, not the feminists, who are making this an event. And all our local misogynists, of course.
Funny thing about the press...they publish what they think people will read . Have you ever met any misandrists on this forum or are all feminists well balanced sane people ?

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some people thought he should get a slap on the wrist because he was critical to the IMF
Not me...I like to see the big ones go to gaol for a long time...but they have to be convicted first .
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:13 pm
@firefly,
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Unless there is absolute evidence that consenting sexual contact occurred, and there is no proof of that, and it is highly unlikely there will ever be proof of that--the defense can knock holes in the prosecution evidence, and raise reasonable doubt, but they cannot prove she gave consent.
The bias in that statement is almost beyond belief .
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:16 pm
@Ionus,
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That is very rare...compare the number of false accusations to those that end up with the woman charged....the Libbies wont have it because it MIGHT stop genuine rape victims from coming forward..


Do you really think that "Libbies" constitute the majority in prosecutors' offices around the globe?
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:20 pm
@Miller,
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So, old Toadie, what's all the above crap got to do with the French pervert ( ex- head of IMF!) pouring his putrid sperm all over the poor African maid's work uniform?
Jesus, dont cry....could you be any more self serving in a post ? What if she was crippled and was pathetically struggling, but he kept kicking her and saying "you die now nigger" and he was wearing a Texas hat and spurs when he rode her, and yelled out yahoooo....

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old Toadie
all the above crap
the French pervert
pouring his putrid sperm
the poor African maid's
work uniform


Laughing Unbelievable !!

Is he guilty ?
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:21 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:


Incidentally, the Mike Tyson case was reported on a lot here but we were never told whether there was any evidence other than the lady's allegations. Was there? He was shown being humiliated on TV in the jail reception area.


Oh, poor man. Poor brutal, violent man.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:21 pm
@BillRM,
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There should had been a full investigation and if the evidence then supported a charge New York State should had gone to either the board of the IMF or the UN and ask for his diplomatic immunity to be waver.

He didn't have diplomatic immunity--whatever immunity he could claim was only related to IMF business, not to criminal actions on his part that were unrelated to his IMF work.

The "full investigation" is called a trial, dummy. And he will have a trial where all the evidence will come out and where it will be disputed by his defense.

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We need to fully protect such people from being interfere with at the whim of local level police officers.

We should protect no one from being answerable to criminal allegations of a serious nature.

And the "local level police officers" you are referring to aren't exactly Sheriff Andy Taylor and Deputy Barney Fife of Mayberry, from the old, "Andy Griffith Show". Laughing The NYPD can match itself against any police department anywhere. And they apparently were not intimidated by who this man is--they went ahead and arrested him because they believed he had violated serious laws, because that's their job.

And the word of a hotel maid is just as important as the word of anyone else who reports a crime to the police, and so far she has appeared very credible to her employer, the police, the D.A., and the grand jury. And absolutely nothing has thus far emerged that should cause anyone to question her credibility.

Strauss-Kahn, on the other hand, has a reputation for behaving toward women in a manner that makes it seem very possible that he might have committed these crimes--particularly toward a lowly hotel maid who he might regard as "only a servant". If anyone's credibility is suspect, I think it's his. I'm not so impressed by his professional accomplishments that I'd go to the extent of denying other aspects of his character.

This is just another person accused of sexual assaults in NYC. The NYPD makes such arrests every day, you just don't hear about them. And everyone arrested gets treated the same way. There really is nothing remarkable about this legal case thus far, it's just getting media hype and even that is dying down in the U.S.. He's not well known here, and I don't think most people have any great interest in him.

The trial should be interesting only because both sides will have to be at the top of their game and I enjoy that kind of legal sparring.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:22 pm
@hawkeye10,
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There was no evidence that a rape took place, there was only her say so.


And you should have seen our feminist media cover the case. They ended with TYSON CAGED. The heavyweight champion of the world. Humiliated by male prison officers for the feminist media.

Are you getting the drift hawk. Has it crept up on you without you noticing. I was onto it 30 years ago at least.

Dylan has a female who could cry real tears for the judge. In Brownsville Girl.

That lady "journalist" I mentioned was the editor's wife but nobody knew. I got tipped the wink. She had refused to take his name on marriage. It's a long while ago now. I expect the sap has passed away in a cardiac unit by now. They live longer than us. I knew the First Officer on the QE2 and he told us about the American widows whose husbands had buckled under the strain and left them with 40 years of pampering money.

Did you ever see the ad where an old guy with his bimbo wife is in the medical centre having a check up and the quack announces that he's as sound as a bell and good for many more years yet. The bimbo looked daggers at him.

Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:22 pm
@ehBeth,
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you lads and your imaginations are the ones keeping it alive here
Its always the men's fault isnt it ?
Mame
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:23 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Is that relevant to his criminal case?

Are you suggesting that no one with an "important" job should ever be arrested for alleged criminal behavior?


That's precisely what he's been advocating all along.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:23 pm
@firefly,
Accuse a man of rape, get a rose...poor pitiful women...it is the men keeping this alive . Very Happy
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:28 pm
@firefly,

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Hotel workers need panic buttons: New York lawmaker
How about satellite tracking in case they get kidnapped ? Or chastity belts complete with very sharp dental braces...
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:29 pm
@firefly,
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He is charged with criminal sexual assault in the first degree--a violent, forcible, sexual assault--which is a serious felony in NYS--and he faces up to 25 years in prison.
Its the women here who are beating this up .
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:30 pm
@spendius,
"If the only evidence is somebody's word be it man or woman
"That's how things operated in Stalin's day. Being denounced."

Exaggerating a bit are ya lad.?

One wonders if you write this nonsense with a straight face.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:31 pm
@Irishk,
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If I was rich and famous pervert

Fixed it for you. You're welcome.
Is he guilty again or still guilty awaiting trial ?
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:32 pm
@Ionus,
From the sublime to the ridiculous.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:33 pm
@Ionus,
What's wrong with giving hotel workers panic buttons? These are used in other industries. Why shouldn't they do everything possible to assure their workers' security?

You do realize that Strauss-Kahn would be in the exact same situation if a male hotel worker accused him of the same sort of behavior, don't you?
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:36 pm
@Ionus,
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Is he guilty again or still guilty awaiting trial ?


Reading comprehension problems ... again.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 05:36 pm
@Ionus,
Sorry, not able to call them men. Lads at the best of times.

cyclo's take on hawkeye on another thread about covers it

http://able2know.org/topic/125364-55#post-4618102

Perhaps not as courteously as georgeob put it in this thread.

Lads. Yobs. Not men.
 

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