Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

@hawkeye10,

HA HA HA - what part of NO!!! do you think he doesn't get? Why would anyone suppose a total stranger would be interested (unless that's their line of work)??? D'ya think she maybe just wanted to do her JOB???? D'ya think that, as a devout Muslim widow, she might not be interested in sex with an older male stranger???

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@spendius,

She thought he'd already checked out... and yes, they can enter, but it wasn't any time of the day or night - it was at checkout time. I've been in lots of hotels where someone's knocked on the door and said "Housekeeping"... maybe you haven't been in a hotel lately, but that's standard procedure.

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@BillRM,

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A hell of a cost to the world economic system on the word of a maid and the judgment of some low level police officer.

Idiot. Nobody's indispensable. WHat if he'd died? Boo hoo... they'd have to find somebody else, which they did.

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@Mame,

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As for me, I haven't made up my mind - I'm going on what's been put out there, like everybody else except you two. So far, the facts are:

If those are facts, Mame, then a trial is of little use.

Since there exists such a thing as the presumption of innocence, I don't see it as being such a terribly awful thing that extra care be taken to minimize his exposure, at least to the extent that it mirrors others in a similar predicament, precisely because of the mad crowd/mad press.

I think that every sane person wishes for justice, even though justice doesn't always unfold as it should.

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@BillRM,

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Fool he is a known and trusted agent in dealing with the world current economic problems and you just can not plug in another person/actor without doing harm.

Where's the harm? You're such a goof.

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@Mame,

In any case, someone with lots of free time might want to look up fbaezer's thoughts on what the IMF did for the Mexican economy.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

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Any arguments you make lose all credibility when you say something as outrageous and offensive as this.
The guy has a reputation as a skirt chaser, not as a beater of women. I make no apology for not conforming the the feminist view that all attempts to have sex with women that are not initiated by women or at least instantly enthusiastically agreed to are violence on women. sex is supposed to be fun, chasing women is fun, for both women and men.

I will wait for some evidence...if they have him actually running down the hall nakid then he should be charged with something.

This is one of the most asinine posts in here. Nobody said he beat her, but she claimed sexual assault, which, by it's very definition, is a violent act against another person. She did not 'initiate' it or 'enthusiastically agree to it', thereby it was against her will, and as such, a crime of a sexual nature. What is so hard to understand? It's simple ABC.

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@Mame,

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by it's very definition, is a violent act against another person.

Used to be, now sexual assault is by definition being the active partner in a sexual situation where the consent does not meet state requirements...violence has been defined out of the requirement for sexual assualt, and for the most part assault has been as well. Now would be a good time to read "1984" for clues on where we might be headed next.

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@hawkeye10,

However if there is violence and lack of consent, do you agree that that is sexual assault? All the arguments about lack of violence or the inability to give consent don't apply to this case. What is alleged is old fashioned, straightforward sexual assault and if the stories coming out of France are true, this is not the first time that DSK has been associated with attacks on women nor does it appear that such behavior is considered all that bad.

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Journalist Jean-François Kahn, no relation, denied rape had taken place and dismissed the affair as "troussage de domestique", a phrase that evokes a master having non-consensual sex with a servant.

They have a phrase for a master having non-consensual sex with a servant and it is not rape. Amazing. But back to the point of my question, if DSK did violently accost a woman and she did not consent, do you think he should be brought up on charges?

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@Mame,

You are going on what you have learned from Media Mame. And what you have learned is something to do with what you wish to learn. And I'm not complaining about that. If I was a woman I expect I would do the same.

I learn what I want to learn too. But Media has been in my face on the matter. There are millions of witnesses. What Media has done has been organised and controlled. DSK has been under control. Able to organise nothing.

I've heard and seen what Media has done. You know nothing about the incident at first hand as I do about Media and those wanting to look good on it. "Is this gonna be on TV?" an excited kid asks in Renaldo and Clara.

I too know nothing about the incident. It's hardly of interest really. A blow job--come on. What is alleged probably goes on all over the world all the time. So this extraordinary focus is racist at its core. It makes out that the American woman is special. The dead and maimed soldiers are nowhere. Which is fair enough but at least we know where we stand. Arlington is worth a sound-bite to preen the compassion every blue moon.

But I've just seen a film on BBC 4 called Tangled Up in Dylan about a nutcase called A.J. Weberman and the scenes in it show New York with it pants partly down. No matter how daft something is that's said if it is videoed and put on one of the many channels it somehow becomes sane.

He's not a criminal Mame. Not yet.

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@Mame,

I only stayed in a hotel once Mame. They say you should try everything once.

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@spendius,

The current favourite to replace DSK at the IMF is a French Lady of rather distinguished appearance.

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@roger,

Got a link for that, Roger?

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@engineer,

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However if there is violence and lack of consent, do you agree that that is sexual assault

We now have the feminist line at an ass or tit grab being violent sexual assault that should be punished as harshly or nearly as harshly as old definition rape is. I am not down with that. That should be a misdemeanor, not a class one felony. There is a chance that DSK should be charged with a felony for what it is claimed that he did, but only if he really did drag her down the hall (which I doubt) and did hold her head firmly as he jammed his cock home, which I also doubt that he did. We still need to hear his side of the story so that we can make some kind of a determination as to what took place, but I feel confident that three 25-life terms plus a host of other charges are not a reflection of justice.

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@hawkeye10,

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(which I doubt)

How can you make such ignorant statements when you don't have the faintest ******* idea what went on?

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

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(which I doubt)

How can you make such ignorant statements when you don't have the faintest ******* idea what went on?

I am prejudiced..I assume that individual cases fall with-in the norm of like cases until I have good reason not to. What it is claimed DSK did is not in Character for him and not with-in the behavior that I would expect from a man such as him. I am twisted myself, I have a pretty good read on him I think.

I am open to being convinced that I am wrong, but I am not going to reinvent the wheel each time I look at a situation, say "I have no idea what happened".....it would be a lie, as I have a pretty good idea what happened, and am looking to see how the evidence conforms to my instincts.

In case you have not heard I am Zen, I live by instincts verified by facts.

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@hawkeye10,

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In case you have not heard I am Zen, I live by instincts verified by facts.

From what I've seen of you, Hawk, facts rarely enter into it. Are you suggesting that they have in this case?

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@JTT,

Dont you even realise the majority are ignoring you, fool...

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@Ionus,

But I read of many atheists criticisms where they cant even keep it straight as to who or which they are criticising...they criticise people, blame religion and condemn God all without realising the stupidity of their statements . It seems they understand nothing but want their sneering and snotty remarks to be taken seriously . A criticism of people should be based on human nature . A criticism of religion should be based on theology . I criticism of God is pointless and illogical . Yet they throw anything and everything into the mix, not realising how stupid it sounds .

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@JTT,

Are you having a psychotic episode ?

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