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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 21 Feb, 2012 09:11 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Just posting something I saw on the news that I thought may be relevant to the thread. This should just about finish off DSK's political career. I love the fact that he's quoted as saying that he didn't know the women were prostitutes.


You dont keep up with the news much do you Pushy....DSK has for months DEMANDED to be questioned, he claims because he expects the process to bleach him.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 02:11 am
Quote:

DSK jailed in French hooker probe
By ANDY SOLTIS
February 22, 2012

Dominique Strauss-Kahn was tossed in a jail cell and grilled yesterday by French investigators who suspect he knew that the women he had sex with at orgies in Paris, Washington and Brussels were prostitutes.

One orgy, at a Washington hotel last May, ended a day before the then-International Monetary Fund chief was arrested in New York on charges of attempting to rape a hotel maid. Those charges were dropped over doubts about the maid’s credibility.

But French investigators are more interested in whether the 62-year-old Strauss-Kahn knew that the “swinger’s parties” he attended in Europe were financed with embezzled cash.

He has admitted attending sex parties, but could face up to 20 years in jail on charges of “aggravated pimping” if he knew he had sex with hookers, authorities said.

Some of the women, quoted in court documents obtained by French media, mentioned how much a prostitution ring paid them and named Strauss-Kahn by his initials.

“For the Washington trip . . . for three days, 2,400 euros,” said a woman identified as Florence V.

“We saw DSK twice at the Hotel W in mid-May 2011,” she said. “I made love to DSK on each of these occasions . . . He was very charming with the women present.”

But she said she was “almost sure” that Strauss-Kahn was unaware she was getting paid.

Another woman, “Monica R.,” told investigators she received the same amount for the Washington weekend, adding, “Everyone present must have been well aware that I was being paid.”

DSK made no comment as he arrived at a police station in Lille yesterday, but his lawyer, Henri Leclerc, said in December Strauss-Kahn might not have known the women were hookers — because they were naked at the parties.

“He could easily not have known, because as you can imagine, at these kinds of parties you’re not always dressed,” Leclerc said. “And I defy you to tell the difference between a nude prostitute and a nude classy woman.”

The married Strauss-Kahn was quoted in a biography published last year as saying he had taken part in “libertine soirées,” but was disgusted by the idea of prostitutes. “It’s not my thing,” he said.

“Usually, people at these soirées are not prostitutes,” he said, according to author Michel Taubmann. “When somebody introduces you to his girlfriend, you don’t ask him if she’s a prostitute.”

Police suspect that the parties were paid for with money embezzled from a French construction firm.

Yesterday, DSK was taken into custody and identified for the first time as a suspect.

He could be held for questioning through Friday.

He is being jailed in an 80-square-foot cell, with a hole-in-the-floor toilet, until a magistrate decides whether to charge him. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/dsk_back_on_hook_in_french_jail_I92SFDqOXhdlxlTe5yKOAJ#ixzz1n60cJeKu


I think he had better accommodations on Rikers Island. Laughing
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 02:13 am
@firefly,
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I think he had better accommodations on Rikers Island.


Riiiight. America will put people in those conditions for months waiting trial, France on the other hand maxes out at 96 hours, and DSK will most likely be out in 48.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 04:13 am
@hawkeye10,
I don't follow reports of DSK like some lovesick puppy no. I know he's someone you hero worship.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 04:13 am
@firefly,
So much for Anglo-Saxon prurience versus Gallic laissez-faire.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 04:36 am
@izzythepush,
But Mme Christine Lagarde is head of the IMF.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 04:42 am
@spendius,
Your point being?
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 04:57 am
@izzythepush,
Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 05:16 am
@spendius,
Is see, you're concerned about the title of the thread being up to date. Well, she's French, so you tell me.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 05:25 am
@spendius,
i say the head of the IMF is a criminal of some kind, let's not play a semantics game
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 06:24 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
But French investigators are more interested in whether the 62-year-old Strauss-Kahn knew that the “swinger’s parties” he attended in Europe were financed with embezzled cash.


I wouldn't like to be sentenced to making a list of activities that are financed by embezzled cash.

I can't think why ff thought fit to bring us that item. On balance one might think it was good circumstantial evidence that a bloke doing those sorts of things wouldn't be bothered about an immigrant hotel maid.

I wonder what ff thinks goes on at libertine orgies to make them worth all the trouble and expense that seems to have been involved.

Surely what the surveys tell us about "sex" can't have been worth that amount of fuss?

Have some of us got our noses pressed up against the toffee-shop window?

Have we to go through the logistic of orgies if only to help us know what we are talking about. They must be appreciably different from coming home from the pub, having a bite of supper whilst watching Sky News Paper Review, having a piss, getting into bed in pygamas and getting across the wife for 7 minutes. (7 minutes was the US average according to an international survey--the Turks were best, or worst depending on your point of view, with 13 minutes.) And this is a US oriented thread after all.

We could start with a going-to-fat, jaded businessman sat in his office going through albums of photographs of ladies offering themselves for orgy facilitation services. He's on the phone talking to a mate who is perusing the same albums and they are discussing which ladies to hire for the meet in Bangkok for the GAAT talks where inter-state commerce regulations are being refined a little further.

You're a writer izzy. Do us the conversation. There's at least 4 pages of a book right there and the tickets are not even booked. And the tickets can't be booked until the selections have been made due to the current state of international travel restrictions which could be referred to in the conversation as also could other things and maybe getting 2 or 3 more pages (about 400 being the target) out of the interlarded chit-chat which serves to guide the reader through the general psychological condition of businessmen of this ilk at this time in the history of the Faustian project. Or at least your view of it. As the writer I mean.

Historians of the future will have the task, assuming your composition reaches them, of deciding whether you had brought your personal biases into your portraits.

DSK has certainly exposed a large number of personal biases. If there is a Hall of Fame for that skill he deserves a place on its Roll of Honour. To use an expression Mr Mailer used, there was a lot of popping out.

One might begin in the traditional manner. "It was the 15th of September, 2011, about three o'clock in the afternoon, when Domatien's secretary entered his office backwards carrying a pile of folders of sufficient depth to make it necessary for her to negotiate a path to his side from memory." It's a traditional beginning and none the worse for that.

The story of mankind, history-his story-her story, has to have a beginning and however scientifically proved it is that it was a big bang 15 billion years ago it is poetically proved to be very boring.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 06:31 am
@spendius,
I'm not really that good at erotica, my stuff is more an exploration of grotesques if anything.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 07:19 am
@izzythepush,
It wasn't "erotica" izzy. It was the logistics of an industrial process catering for raging egos who get a kick out of wasting scarce resources on their "cum fling", as one poster referred to the business.

Looking at photos of DSK I'm inclined to rule out any mystical rubbish about the eternal feminine.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 07:20 am
@spendius,
How grotesque do you want it?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 07:36 am
@spendius,
Grotesque enough to put you off your pie and chips.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 01:02 pm
Quote:

France
The Endless Pathos and Hubris of L’Affaire DSK
By Bruce Crumley
February 22, 2012

When Dominique Strauss-Kahn awoke in a French detention cell Wednesday morning, he probably wasn’t experiencing the sort of déjà vu one might expect. Because in contrast to his incarceration last May in New York on suspicion of sexual assault, the man detained in Lille for questioning Tuesday night wasn’t worrying about losing his job as head of the International Monetary Fund, or his status as the overwhelming favorite to become France’s next president. By the time DSK faced questioning on his alleged involvement with a prostitution ring Tuesday morning, the 62 year-old former Elysée front-runner had lost just about everything that constituted his life, career, and future just a year ago.

Strauss-Kahn voluntarily appeared for questioning before an investigating magistrate looking into a Franco-Belgian prostitution ring that allegedly served affluent and influential clients. Numerous French media reports on the months-long inquiry state Strauss-Kahn partook in sexual encounters and orgies staged in restaurants, clubs, hotels, and residences in France—as well as a few exported to Washington D.C., where he worked as the IMF chief. Strauss-Kahn has denied any legal wrongdoing as the scandal has ground on over the past six months, and his wife Anne Sinclair has thus far remained by his side despite the compiling evidence of his infidelity. Indeed, that unflagging support from Sinclair might be the only important part of his life that he didn’t lose after the ultimately dropped attempted rape case gave way to similar allegations in France, only to be followed by the Lille inquiry. Indeed, at this point neither the additional damage to his reputation, nor the potential legal threats he faces in the case, must rank all that high on the DSK hit list of recent adversity.

Myriad leaks from the investigation in the French press—as well as a few interviews with the paid sex escorts claiming to have participated in the gatherings—seem to leave little doubt that DSK partook in the soirées. (Even his attorney has appeared to acknowledge his client was present as claimed, but has suggested DSK wasn’t aware his female partners were professional escorts.) Since prostitution isn’t illegal in France, Strauss-Kahn risks nothing worse than public scorn if it’s established he did frolic with prostitutes.

Pimping, by contrast, is against the law, meaning Strauss-Kahn could be charged with complicity if it’s proven he knew the women were arranged by and working for the men suspected of orchestrating the events. Probably worse still in legal terms, with investigators suspecting that corporate funds were used as “entertainment expenses” to pay for some of the encounters, DSK could be charged with complicity of embezzlement if it’s proven he was aware company money had financed the sexual follies. And were that established, questions would rise about whether DSK accepted the paid sexual services in exchange for any political favors or help his benefactors might request. At this point that’s all suspicion and speculation. Meantime, even if Strauss-Kahn were made a suspect, tried, and convicted in the case, it’s unlikely his tally of jail time served would increase beyond the provisional detention he sweated out at Rikers Island last year and Lille this week, legal experts say.

So why the interest? Because it evokes sex, lascivious acts among the rich and famous, marital treason, and what may be the final act in a rapid, spectacular, and unexpected fall from power and grace. Yet even the powerful lurid allure of DSK’s plight may now finally be starting to wane for some people. Strauss-Kahn’s plummet has been so dizzying and dramatic that his landing in the Lille detention cell doesn’t represent much more than another thud of his reputation bouncing off the hard bottom of disgrace. The renewed hype surrounding Strauss-Kahn’s travails amounts to tirer sur l’ambulance—literally “shooting at the ambulance” to get an already wounded target (a Gallic variant of “flogging a dead horse”).

But both the hubris and pathos of the DSK drama mean few people—and no media—will simply drop it. Given the multiplying allegations of the last year, it may take some time to fully purge that reserve of revelations. Meaning there may be more of Wednesday’s déjà vu experiences in store for Strauss-Kahn before the saga that opened in New York finally comes to a close.
http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2012/02/22/the-endless-pathos-and-hubris-of-laffaire-dsk/#ixzz1n8fBewuP
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2012 06:14 pm
@firefly,
So France is as nuts as we are or more likely DSK have some powerful enemies that do not mind making the French justice system look even more silly then the US one.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2012 07:02 am
Interesting charges drops in NY and assaults charges in France not pursuit and both matters looking like the results of him running into con women searchings for big pay days and yet the Cambridge’s Women’s Campaign wish to block this expert from speaking on the EU financial mess!!!!!!!!!!!

The maid lawyer is also going to be in the protest poor guy all that money spend and he is unlikely to get a dime back.

Wonder way he had not cut his losses yet?



http://www.worldcrunch.com/cambridge-women-students-demand-dsk-disinvited-university-talk/4840

LONDON - The euro zone crisis, the future of the global economy, French presidential elections. Such is the ambitious program of the event organized by the Cambridge Union Society, the British university's prestigious debate society. Just one small detail: the main speaker for the March 9 event happens to be named, Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

The former head of the International Monetary Fund is currently under investigation in France over an alleged prostitution ring, which follows last year's case in New York where DSK was charged with sexual assault of a hotel maid, before charges were dropped by the prosecutor.

The debate society speaking engagement has outraged female members of the Cambridge University Students’ Union (CUSU), who have launched a "Disinvite DSK" campaign. A petition opposing Strauss-Kahn's appearance has already been signed by more than 800 people.

Douglas H. Wigdor, the American lawyer of Nafissatou Diallo, the maid who claims she was sexually assaulted by Strauss-Kahn, is scheduled to join a protest against the participation of the former French Finance Minister, who until his arrest in New York last spring was the frontrunner to challenge Nicolas Sarkozy in the 2012 presidential election.

The Cambridge’s Women’s Campaign also noted that the scheduled event is not a debate, as is traditionally the case, but rather consists a conference followed by a Q&A session. They say this would give DSK a platform to speak on the economy without having to answer the sexual allegations against him.

The University justified the invitation by saying that the former head of the IMF was “exceptionally well qualified to speak on some of the greatest headline topics of the world in 2012.”

Cambridge’s debate circle is known for inviting controversial celebrities, like France’s extreme-right politician Jean-Marie Le Pen, the Dalai Lama and members of the then apartheid regime in South Africa.

Trying to cope with the influx of requests, the University of Cambridge decided to distribute tickets to the talk by lottery. The event is sold out.

Read more from Le Monde in French. Original article by Marc Roche

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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2012 10:01 am
@BillRM,
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The event is sold out.


Perhaps they just wish to gaze upon such a stud. They ought to heckle though. Make it look respectable and all.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2012 10:14 am
@spendius,
I think there'll be a lot of heckling, now he's mentioned in similar terms as Le Pen, the lecture circuit is all he has left.
 

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