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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 09:38 pm
@firefly,
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made it very clear that the charges against DSK were not found to be baseless or untrue. He was not exonerated. The dismissal of charges does not mean he did not sexually assault Diallo.


No it just stated that the woman is a constant liar to the point her testimony is worthless so in a he said she said case that the end of the game.

In theory even such a constant liar could had been a real rape victim however the probability is next to zero in this case.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 09:48 pm
@firefly,
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Good for the Sofitel--they are doing the right thing. The woman was a good employee, and she should keep her job if she wants it.


I will love to see what the fact that a woman who is proven to had make up one rape story and highly likely make up another one concerning a customer of the hotel is still working there is going to do for the hotel business.

I would be surprise if they will be able to give away those 3000 a night rooms if they do allow her to be a maid in that hotel once more.

Having her remaining an employee would be similar to a dog food company hiring Vick to be their spoke person.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 09:49 pm
@BillRM,
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Yes, the case against him was dropped, but some facts were proven to be true and it’s impossible to erase everything. That is why he will have to justify his behavior. I don’t know what his PR advisers (especially Stéphane Fouks) will come up with. Will he give a TV interview, or remain quiet?

He has already said he would speak upon his return to France. He will have to explain once and for all his overwhelming fondness for women. He will have to make things clear, prove that he is now careful about it, and that what happened in the US opened his eyes and made him realize he has to take personal measures. His approval ratings have dramatically slumped. His image has been tarnished.

The Socialist party's error

Many now believe that he should apologize and do whatever it takes not to let something like this happen again. Within the Socialist party, everyone is celebrating his release, though some already worry about his potential comments in the media.

The Socialist party made a major mistake by first accusing Sarkozy’s government of plotting against Strauss-Kahn, before calling it a personal matter. But this could not remain a strictly personal matter since it involved the favorite for next year’s presidential election, acclaimed by many members of his party even those furthest from his political line.

From the beginning of the case, the Socialist party’s reaction was over-the-top. Now their reaction seems premature. Though they have the right to celebrate Strauss-Kahn’s release, they must not cross the line. We must remember that charges were dropped because US law may not have allowed the prosecutor to go further. This should not give Socialists any reason to rejoice. Strauss-Kahn was not cleared. Before coming back as a politician, he must first change as a man.
http://www.worldcrunch.com/dsk-returns-can-strauss-kahn-mount-political-comeback-france/3646
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 09:53 pm
@firefly,
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He will have to explain once and for all his overwhelming fondness for women.


So he will need to explain that he is a functioning heterosexual male?

I love it.........................
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 10:02 pm
@BillRM,
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I would be surprise if they will be able to give away those 3000 a night rooms if they do allow her to be a maid in that hotel once more.

Was it also her fault that she encountered DSK in the nude--she thought the suite was empty (and another hotel staff member testified to that at the Grand Jury). Even if you believe what happened in that suite was consensual, why did he remain in the nude after he saw the maid in his suite? Is it appropriate behavior for a guest to remain in the nude and proposition a maid who has come into his suite to clean it?

Do you really think the Sofitel ever wants DSK back as a guest? Laughing Or that any other hotel in NYC really wants him as a guest? Laughing
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 10:05 pm
@BillRM,
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So he will need to explain that he is a functioning heterosexual male?

Gee--I guess you missed this comment in my previous post...or it went right over your head. Laughing
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Former French Socialist prime minister Michel Rocard on Monday told French Canal+ television that Strauss-Kahn has "a mental illness" the keeps him from "controlling his impulses" around women.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 01:58 am
@firefly,
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Was it also her fault that she encountered DSK in the nude--she thought the suite was empty (and another hotel staff member testified to that at the Grand Jury). Even if you believe what happened in that suite was consensual, why did he remain in the nude after he saw the maid in his suite? Is it appropriate behavior for a guest to remain in the nude and proposition a maid who has come into his suite to clean it?


Let see we have her word about him being nude and not having a towel around him just to start with and we all know how good her word is!!!!!!!

Who proposition who for that matter!!!!!!!

Except for the sex happening we do not have a clue for what did occur in the room except for her story.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 01:59 am
@firefly,
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Former French Socialist prime minister Michel Rocard on Monday told French Canal+ television that Strauss-Kahn has "a mental illness" the keeps him from "controlling his impulses" around women.


The former prime minister is a mental health expert of some kind?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 02:05 am
@firefly,
The idea that a hotel would keep on once more an employee that there is zero question had make up at least one rape story and have very likely made up another rape story this time concerning a guest is crazy.

Oh let not forget she also is known to had lie about at least some of the events concerning a guest under oath in front of a grand jury.

You could not pay me enough money to take even a small chance of being alone with such a woman.

I will love to see what happen to that hotel business.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 02:42 am
@firefly,
Oh Firefly I was in error as we do not have just her retelling of the events that happen in that hotel room to go on we have a numbers of versions from her concerning the events of that morning!!!!!

As far as him propositioning her for example that is story version two or later as version one he did not say anything to her so no proposition under version one.
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 04:00 am
@firefly,
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Former French Socialist prime minister Michel Rocard on Monday told French Canal+ television that Strauss-Kahn has "a mental illness" the keeps him from "controlling his impulses" around women.


I think Freud would have called it "NBN". (Not being neurotic). All socialists and feminists want us all be be raging neurotics. As does the medical profession, the legal profession and Media.

So obviously we are declared mentally ill if we have resisted. Hundreds of billions are spent rendering women "sexy" and hundreds more on provocative images and if we respond we are sick.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 05:57 am
@spendius,
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Hundreds of billions are spent rendering women "sexy" and hundreds more on provocative images and if we respond we are sick.


Yes a woman will put on a push up bra and undo any numbers of buttons on the front and yet then complained if man does not look her in the eyes.
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 07:49 am
@BillRM,
It's a fair enough game Bill and produces much wit and amusement. I would go so far as to say that there is no wit and amusement outside of it.

But when they start calling the cops and stuff it is no longer witty or amusing. Hence these feminists and their lickspittles and lackeys are unfit for civilised company and when they start saying that rape is the "crime of crimes" they are unfit for any company at all.

Obviously the cops are more than willing to be called upon. "The riot squad are restless, they need somewhere to go". Never was a Dylan gem realised quite so comprehensively as that one was in the first days of this case.

They were out of the traps like bloody greyhounds. On springs.

So wit and amusement died some more in the service of how seriously these women take themselves. I've seen three different women on TV simpering like tweetiepie on being congratulated for being got with child as if it was some fantastic feat. Like Shaw predicted--"give them the vote and we all end up talking about ovaries."

And it shows. The other "amusements" are mere distractions. To keep your minds off how duhhed to death you all are.

An alleged blow job in a $3000 a night quasi-brothel-- !!!! Ye Gods. And ff can't define "consent" and everything she says rests on the word.





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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 10:20 am
@BillRM,
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The idea that a hotel would keep on once more an employee that there is zero question had make up at least one rape story and have very likely made up another rape story this time concerning a guest is crazy.


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What future for Nafissatou Diallo from the dropping of charges against Dominique Strauss-Kahn, Tuesday, August 23? According to Le Figaro , Sofitel is prepared to offer work and several job offers he had in fact been passed: the hotel group Accor " stresses his desire not to rush things and rejects any attempt to put an end to the employment contract of the chambermaid "

A return to the Sofitel in Times Square, where he was employed M me Diallo would be the preferred solution. But the group would consider moving to a position less "exposed" than the maid. "A large part of the staff work well as back office , without direct contact with customers, " said Le Figaro . " A work in other institutions in the group, such as the Novotel on Broadway or the Motel 6 chain, it could also be offered " , the daily also reported.

Since the beginning of the affair Strauss-Kahn, the hotel staff has always shown its support for Nafissatou Diallo, as recalled by Le Figaro , the statements by the hotel manager described the maid as a model employee at gathering of employees chanting "Shame on you!" the passage of Dominique Strauss-Kahn who appeared before the Supreme Court of New York on June 6

http://www.lemonde.fr/dsk/article/2011/08/30/affaire-dsk-la-cameriste-pourrait-reprendre-son-travail-au-sofitel_1565123_1522571.html#ens_id=1522342

I figure that this is a shot across the bow from Accor, that it is a warning that if she holds out for too much money in their negotiations that Nafissatou Diallo might find herself confined to the laundry room of the Motel 6. Now that Accor has little to worry about in court with this nut they seem to be playing hardball, and they are already out over $100K as they have been paying her for the last three months for no work.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 11:54 am
@hawkeye10,
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I figure that this is a shot across the bow from Accor, that it is a warning that if she holds out for too much money in their negotiations that Nafissatou Diallo might find herself confined to the laundry room of the Motel 6. Now that Accor has little to worry about in court with this nut they seem to be playing hardball, and they are already out over $100K as they have been paying her for the last three months for no work

Aren't you capable of reading anything without distorting it--including the articles you post?

Is your reading comprehension that bad? Or do you distort deliberately in order to bolster your pre-conceived ideas?

What "negotiations" with Accor? Under NYS Worker's Comp law she cannot sue her employer, and that was previously discussed in this thread. Also, the Sofitel did nothing wrong, they are not responsible for DSK's behavior, he is, and she has lodged a civil suit against him.

Under NYS Worker's Comp Law, she is entitled to be paid for lost time from work due to injuries, both physical and emotional, sustained while she was working. Her allegations of being sexually assaulted by DSK were not disproved.

Not only is Accor not playing "hardball", they are being very understanding of the difficulties involved in Diallo's returning to work, which is why they are apparently offering her a variety of positions, including some that involve no direct customer contact. Apart from the fact that Diallo is protected by her union, Accor is not seeking to downgrade her level of employment in terms of her salary or any other aspects of her job. They are giving her more options in terms of her returning to work.
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Since the beginning of the affair Strauss-Kahn, the hotel staff has always shown its support for Nafissatou Diallo, as recalled by Le Figaro , the statements by the hotel manager described the maid as a model employee

They consider her a valued employee and they are continuing to be supportive of her. Accor sounds like an excellent corporation to work for judging by how they are standing behind Diallo.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 12:49 pm
@firefly,
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What "negotiations" with Accor? Under NYS Worker's Comp law she cannot sue her employer, and that was previously discussed in this thread. Also, the Sofitel did nothing wrong, they are not responsible for DSK's behavior, he is, and she has lodged a civil suit against him
I am not aware of any reason why Thompson can not go after accor, he would simply need to change venues, to file in Federal court for civil rights violations. The error on Accor's part is to knowingly put their employees into situations were they will be raped, that they did not have either a panic button or a buddy system.

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They consider her a valued employee and they are continuing to be supportive of her. Accor sounds like an excellent corporation to work for judging by how they are standing behind Diallo
As Bill has already mentioned they need to be concerned with men refusing to be customers because they dont trust Accor to hire people who will not make false accusations of rape, and thus greatly harm the lives of the customers. There is no way she will be allowed customer contact now, and given her known bad character Accor would be stupid to do what would normally be done here, which is to promote her into a position that works for PR purposes but also gets her away from the customers. Sofitel may also desire to say something on this, both in the matter of this employee and their continuing (or not) to contract out operations to Accor.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 02:17 pm
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Former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn on Monday stopped by his former place of work, where he received a hearty round of applause from his former colleagues and staff.

Paulo Nogueira Batista, who represents a group of eight Latin American countries, told Reuters that the warm welcome "reflects the fact that he is very much appreciated in the institution," adding that "people clapped for very long periods."

The visit to the International Monetary Fund's headquarters in Washington was Strauss-Kahn's first since he was arrested in May and charged with sexual assault and attempted rape of a maid at an upscale New York City hotel. Strauss-Kahn was accompanied by his wife, Anne Sinclair, during his visit and met briefly with new IMF managing director Christine Lagarde before later addressing a packed auditorium that was closed to the press.

A second witness, who spoke to Reuters on the condition of anonymity, said that those in attendance broke into spontaneous applause before the French politician began speaking.

A New York judge dropped the criminal charges against DSK earlier this month, bringing an end to a lengthy and high-profile case that made headlines on both sides of the Atlantic. Strauss-Kahn and his wife are expected to soon return to France

http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/08/30/dominique_strauss_kahn_imf_visit_staff_break_into_spontaneous_ap.html
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 04:08 pm
@hawkeye10,
Given Hawkeye that there is no question that she had lied about some matters under oath concerning her actions on her job and in relationship to a hotel customer I see no legal barrier to firing her ass.

A PR matter but not a legal matter in my opinion at least but then their customers base is unlikely to be feminist to say the least and would likely be very unhappy with the idea that she could be knocking on their door with towerls.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 04:16 pm
@hawkeye10,
Given Hawkeye that there is no question that she had lied about some matters under oath concerning her actions on her job and in relationship to a hotel customer I see no legal barrier to firing her ass.

A PR matter but not a legal matter in my opinion at least.

As far as the hotel being harm by firing her I do not think that their customers base is feminists or that they would be happy with the idea of that maid knocking on their doors with towels.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 04:54 pm
@BillRM,
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Given Hawkeye that there is no question that she had lied about some matters under oath concerning her actions on her job and in relationship to a hotel customer I see no legal barrier to firing her ass
Considering that she lied about her movements directly after the alleged assault is reason enough to fire her. Accor would end up in arbitration for sure but they could probably get rid of her, maybe with the arbitrator demanding that she get some money, but it would be money well spent.

Do hotel owners really want to contract out to companies who support known lier employees who make claims of rape against guests that are so weak that the DA must throw them out, and who many well willingly give guests blowjobs? IDK, but we are about to find out.......unless I am correct the the recent media blurbs are intended to be a message to Thompson that Accor has no intention of rolling over, and Accor has pre notified the owners that what looks like support for Ophelia is actually a negotiating tactic.


EDIT: The hotel union has already used this alleged attempted rape to get out of the uniforms that the hotel owners cared a lot about, I dont figure that they want to loose much more because of this lying maid that their contractor employed. I have heard no claims of support for the maid nor for the unions and Accors support of her, though I dont rule it out because I dont read the French papers every day and the American press seems to barely even understand that this maid does not work for the hotel owners or Sofitel much less that Accor and Sofitel might have different agendas and positions.
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