Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

@izzythepush,

You think there's a connection with the Ophelia in this case?
She looks kinda like a drowning victim.

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@electronicmail,

electronicmail wrote:

izzythepush wrote:

So Hawkeye are you agreeing, or disagreeing with me? Should you adopt our laws of sub judice or not?

But do your laws bar the alleged victims from giving interviews?

I missed Izzies post...my position is that the American "justice" system is very unjust and is in need of reform. I would prefer that the reforms take place by getting a supreme court that actually believes in following the Constitution and the spirit under which this nation was formed.

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@hawkeye10,

It seems to me hawk that the spirit under which this nation was formed was a beanfeast for lawyers and the USSC follows that spirit closely. It represented a change from ecclesiastical Latin to legalese and thus power without vows of poverty, obedience and chastity. A class revolution in other words.

All other "spirits" are way out of date now.

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@electronicmail,

electronicmail wrote:

izzythepush wrote:

So Hawkeye are you agreeing, or disagreeing with me? Should you adopt our laws of sub judice or not?

But do your laws bar the alleged victims from giving interviews?

If something is sub judice, yes. The idea is that all the publicity can jeopardise a fair trial. Once the trial has finished the victims can give as many interviews as they like. Sometimes we don't even know about a crime until after the trial has finished and the verdict announced.

Spendi brought up Ophelia, not me.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

electronicmail wrote:

izzythepush wrote:

So Hawkeye are you agreeing, or disagreeing with me? Should you adopt our laws of sub judice or not?

But do your laws bar the alleged victims from giving interviews?

I missed Izzies post...my position is that the American "justice" system is very unjust and is in need of reform. I would prefer that the reforms take place by getting a supreme court that actually believes in following the Constitution and the spirit under which this nation was formed.

I know I accused you of splitting hairs, but please do not refer to me as Izzie. There is another poster called Izzie, she is a very nice lady. Don't confuse us, it's not fair on her.

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I do not know but if I was Vance I would wish to get this over with and not drag it out as he seems to be doing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/28/us-strausskahn-politics-idUSTRE76R4NB20110728

Tuesday, Vance's office received a second postponement of the next hearing in the Strauss-Kahn case, originally scheduled for July 16. It is now scheduled for August 23.

"I'd like to believe that the changing of the date was somewhat of a response to our earlier letter and public press conferences," Perkins said.

Erin Duggan, the district attorney's spokeswoman, dismissed the suggestion that politics played a role in the postponements. "Cases are prosecuted on the basis of the facts and the law and nothing else," she said.

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@BillRM,

I noticed a report yesterday attributed to an unnamed friend of vance that has it that vance is searching high and low for a way to save the case because he thinks he owes it to sex crime victims everywhere to go after the accused with max force.

In other words vance has forgotten who he works for and what his job is....he works for the collective, and his job is to pursue justice for all.

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@hawkeye10,

He's already ploughed up the field for genuine sex crime victims. He's looking to save face.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

He's already ploughed up the field for genuine sex crime victims. He's looking to save face.

that is a lost cause, he is going to get hammered no matter what he does next. When one steps in a turd there is no graceful way to proceed....his mistakes were charging early, charging heavy, and vouching for the complainant before he had had time to check her out, this case is on his shoe now.

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@spendius,

Some time the best thing one can do is cut your losses not keep on bleeding.

With what is now on the public record it seems to me that a lawyer with a still wet license to practice law could tear this case apart for DSK and he is using some of the best lawyers in New York State.

At some point it should be about the law and what can be proven in a court of law not about pressure groups and their desires to hang any male that any woman had cry rape about.

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@BillRM,

Bill, being a martyr for victims has generally been a good move in american victim culture.....

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@hawkeye10,

I see that Ophelia was up on stage again this morning, have not seen the video yet so I don't know if crying was included.

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@hawkeye10,

No crying, and Thompson wised up and hid those arms this time

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/video/video-dsk-accuser-speaks-out/article2113061/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2113061

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@hawkeye10,

There is a youtube video of the abc interview where a body language expert is claiming she is telling the truth.

I wonder how this "expert" would had judge the preformed she is said to had put on concerning a gang rape that she admitted had never occur.

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@BillRM,

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There is a youtube video of the abc interview where a body language expert is claiming she is telling the truth

My wife is in that biz, she tells me that women especially have a tendency to spin fantasy in their head and then believe it as truth, thus they will appear truthful. The thing with Ophelia is with all the bizarre things she does/says and with her many bizarre explanations or her bizarre behavior at what point does your rational mind go "TILT!" and you decide that we are dealing with a whack job here?

I was there some time ago, her correct body language and right on cue emotional responses do nothing for me, because I have already decided that she is not all there.

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@electronicmail,

electronicmail wrote:

But do your laws bar the alleged victims from giving interviews?

Two of our newspapers were fined today for contempt of court, by reporting on something that was sub judice. From the BBC website

Daily Mirror and Sun fined over Jo Yeates stories

Mr Jefferies was the subject of media scrutiny after he was arrested Two newspapers have been fined over their reporting of the inquiry into landscape architect Jo Yeates' killing.

The High Court fined the Daily Mirror £50,000 and the Sun £18,000 for being in contempt of court by "vilifying" early suspect Christopher Jefferies.

The attorney general said they had engaged in a "feeding frenzy". The Mirror has said it will appeal.

Mr Jefferies, who was innocent, also accepted an apology and "substantial" libel damages from eight newspapers.

His lawyer, Louis Charalambous, described his client as "satisfied" with the outcome.

"Christopher Jefferies is the latest victim of the regular witch-hunts and character assassinations conducted by the worst elements of the British tabloid media," he said.

Attorney General Dominic Grieve: "These were flagrant contempts of court"
Mr Jefferies is also pursuing a civil case against the police for wrongful arrest and false imprisonment, his legal team revealed.

It is thought to be the first time that media organisations have been found guilty of contempt with a story about a suspect who was not, ultimately, tried.

Attorney General Dominic Grieve welcomed the contempt judgement, which saw both newspapers liable for substantial costs.

"These two newspapers completely lost the plot, they engaged in a feeding frenzy over the new year period," he said.

He said it acted as "a reminder to the press that the Contempt of Court Act applies from the time of arrest".

The act aims to prevent potential jurors from becoming influenced by press and broadcast reports.

Miss Yeates vanished after returning to her basement flat in Bristol's Clifton area on 17 December.

Her body was found on a grass verge about three miles away on Christmas Day.

Mr Jefferies was arrested on suspicion of murder on 30 December but later released without charge.

Miss Yeates' neighbour, Dutch national Vincent Tabak, 33, has since admitted her manslaughter and awaits a murder trial.

However, some press coverage in the aftermath of Mr Jefferies' arrest was found to have cast doubt over his character.

Among the suggestions - all untrue - were that he was prone to invade the privacy of his tenants and had acted inappropriately with pupils when teaching.

The Lord Chief Justice, Lord Judge, told the contempt hearing that two articles in the Mirror had "vilified" Mr Jefferies, painting him as an "eccentric loner".

They had asserted he had been involved in unacceptable sexual behaviour and was linked both to paedophile offences and a 1974 murder, he said.

"These articles would have provided Mr Jefferies with a serious argument that a fair trial would have been impossible," the judge added.

Likewise, the Sun had conveyed the impression Mr Jefferies was "a stalker, with an obsession with death".

The court said the publications could have affected the ability to gather evidence and establish identity.

Earlier, the Sun, Mirror, Sunday Mirror, Daily Mail, Daily Record, Daily Express, Daily Star and the Scotsman agreed a settlement with Mr Jefferies over his libel claims.

A separate hearing was told that the newspapers now accepted Mr Jefferies had nothing to do with Miss Yeates' death and had helped police as much as he could.

There was no basis to suggest, as some reports had done, that he had ever acted inappropriately with any pupil while a teacher, they conceded.

Mr Jefferies had taught English at Clifton College in Bristol for 34 years and was of good character, the court heard

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@izzythepush,

Modern media is a disgrace to civilised society.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Modern media is a disgrace to civilised society.

Not all of it, but a great deal of it.

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@izzythepush,

All of it. Bad money drives out good.

Tell me why they have informed us of how the Oslo bomb was made?

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@spendius,

I would imagine to stop all those conspiracy nuts claiming that a foreign government was supplying him with munitions.

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