Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

@firefly,

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Shouldn't it be DSK's motives you should be wondering about?

I have wondered about them. So have hawk and Bill. We find them incredible for the reasons we have given. The MD of the IMF being off his head is, while possible, very unlikely. The idea of an immigrant woman being in pursuit of money is very likely but not certain.

What do you suggest DSK's motive might have been? We had an Attorney General who was sacked for being caught picking up the lowest prostitutes in the East End of London. His fragrant wife had a flash car with a personalised registration plate. The motive our AG had is the only one I can suggest. Maybe he had read Henry Miller's famous line--"What I need now is a woman without the slightest spark of decency". It's an intellectual thing.

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@spendius,

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I'm betting there was some funny stuff.

I'm betting that there is a lot more funny stuff in DSK's past, that reveals a similar pattern of behavior with other women, than anything they will turn up about the maid.

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@firefly,

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If the "vast majority" of visas were for business trips and tourism it simply means the rest were for other reasons...

Yes--but the article was a gross panygeric for the sweet innocence of our heroine and to even mention the words "vast majority" in such a context is a broad hint that she was the only one. "Majority" was enough to make any other point. What was "vast" for?

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@firefly,

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I'm betting that there is a lot more funny stuff in DSK's past, that reveals a similar pattern of behavior with other women, than anything they will turn up about the maid.

Fair enough so long as what does turn up is given in testimony under oath and is subjected to cross-examination.

I have asked this question three times now and been given no answer. Can the lady fly off to France or back home?

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@spendius,

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Can the lady fly off to France or back home?

She's not charged with any crimes, and she doesn't have to appear in court until the trial. I think she's legally free to do whatever she wants to do.

But, what she apparently wants to do is remain out of sight and in a protected undisclosed location. And I can't blame her for that. Women in situations like the one she is in now have been known to get death threats from people upset with the fact that a particular man has been accused of a sexual assault. And this woman would also become the object of relentless international media attention and harassment if she came out of hiding.

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@firefly,

She doesn't have to appear in court at all does she? And you thinking she is free to do what she wants does not answer my question.

She must have known that to pursue her allegations against the MD of the IMF would lead to her becoming the object of relentless international media attention and harassment and if she didn't the investigating officers would quickly tell her so.

A lot has been said on here about a "deal". Her being in France would avoid any legal technicalities in the USA. A villa overlooking the sea near Nice with $100,000 a year would be very nice. There won't be any lump sums I shouldn't think if a deal is struck. And I doubt any movie or book deals will arise if her allegations are discredited. I don't see what would be of interest in that event.

I don't know of a case where a woman has been in a situation like the one she is in now.

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@spendius,

There's a story here tonight that the IMF has taken a much tougher line with Germany over the bail-out in Greece since DSK was removed from office under extremely suspicious circumstances.

There's another story that a Conservative MP who has faced a week in which allegations of sexual abuse by some un-named woman have been believed has now been cleared after the woman admitted that she had made it all up and that nothing had taken place between her and him. He is now taking legal action against a range of targets. Unfortunately for our police they had arrested him and searched his home after a dawn raid. I assume some detectives have been transferred to traffic duties. That's what usually happens.

He's on the warpath goodstyle.

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@spendius,

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Unfortunately for our police they had arrested him and searched his home after a dawn raid. I assume some detectives have been transferred to traffic duties.

There can be only one explanation....that your cops do not possess the psychic powers of the NYPD SVU, they who can apparently tell with in minutes if the alleged victim is telling the truth.

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The Greek debt crisis has ignited fears of a renewed global credit crunch – possibly worse than the one caused by the collapse of Wall Street's investment banking powerhouse Lehman Brothers.

The country's severe financial and political problems, compounded by concerns about the pace of economic recovery in the United States, have sent financial markets reeling around the world.

Shares have tumbled in recent days and the euro has followed suit. Meanwhile, thousands of protesters have taken to the streets in Athens to demonstrate against austerity measures introduced by Prime Minister George Papandreou, who now plans to reshuffle his cabinet and seek a vote of confidence in parliament.

Serious situation

On top of all this, European Union leaders are divided over a second bailout for debt-ridden Greece.

The situation is serious, experts agree.

"This is a major crisis not only for the eurozone but for the world financial system," said Falko Fecht, a professor of economic and banking policy at the Wiesbaden-based European Business School (EBS).

"Even though the outstanding debt of Greece is small as seen from a global perspective, it has the potential to trigger quite severe contagion effects that have the potential to bring down large parts of the global financial system again and lead to an eruption very similar to Lehman Brothers," Fecht told Deutsche Welle

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15161405,00.html

Maybe the global economic system would be a few minutes further away from doomsday if DSK was on the job, but we will never know the full cost to us of his house arrest in NYC over questions on the consensual foundation for a blowjob.

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@hawkeye10,

This will play well for DSK at trial

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When an officer approached Strauss-Kahn at 4:40 pm on the day he arrested, and requested that Strauss-Kahn "come with" them, Strauss-Kahn replied to the officer's request, "What for?"
Moments later, Strauss-Kahn asked again, "What is this about?"
Moments later, in a Port Authority Precinct at JFK, detectives asked Strauss-Kahn to empty his pockets, hand over his passport, and offer him water. When one of the detectives began to handcuff him, Strauss-Kahn said, "is that necessary?"
Strauss-Kahn then told the officers he has diplomatic immunity, and requested to speak with someone at the French consulate. He continued to demand to know why he had been detained.
In subsequent statements, Strauss-Kahn appeared to be unsure of why he was arrested. At one point, he requested being able to make a call to inform colleagues he would be late for a meeting. In another, he said, "Do I need a lawyer?" At this stage, law enforcement officials had not disclosed why they were holding him

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/dominique-strauss-kahn-first-statements-to-the-nypd-make-it-look-like-he-had-no-idea-why-he-was-arrested-2011-6#ixzz1PW6884yw

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@hawkeye10,

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Strauss-Kahn then told the officers he has diplomatic immunity

Well, that might help to explain why he didn't consider the consequences of what went on in the hotel room. He thought he had a get-out-of-jail-free card up his sleeve.

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Strauss-Kahn accuser must stand firm.
By Wendy Murphy/ GateHouse News Service
Posted May 26, 2011

Call me politically incorrect, but the idea that Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the recently dethroned head of the International Monetary Fund - an organization that controls hundreds of billions of dollars, and lots of countries as a result - had consensual sex with a hotel maid form West Guinea is preposterous.

Charged with sexual assault and attempted rape, the man known as DSK isn't saying much at the moment, but the minions, friends and spin docs are working full time to suggest the maid set him up, is a prostitute or some combination of both.

Either way, the trial balloons are flying that the whole thing was her fault, totally consensual, and that Mr. Powerful was dominated by Ms. Disenfranchised.

At least he's not doing the Arnold dance: making up stories about how doing the nasty with the maid is a form of genuine affection. Strom Thurmond tried that one, too, when it came out that he impregnated his 16-year-old black maid. Even Thurmond's BFFs couldn't say with a straight face that there was something romantic going there.

It's not that people don't have cross-racial and cross-class relationships that are loving, or that a "guy like that" wouldn't choose a poor black maid for a hotel hook-up.

It's that, among all the possible explanations for what probably went on with DSK in that hotel room, the sinister prostitute-ish options are far less plausible than the far stronger likelihood that DSK was recovering from an overdose of Viagra and having a little alone time with himself when opportunity knocked - and when he saw that opportunity was wearing a skirt, he pounced.

That he skee-daddled to the airport after the maid fled the room says plenty about whether the maid was having a good time.

Now that charges are filed, we have no choice but to sit back and listen to the defense shills spin nonsense about how the maid was a hooker (just watch the stories unfold about how many "West Guinea women in that area are prostitutes." Blink your eyes, and the maid will be turned into a hooker, and then the PR types will say things like "you know what those types of people are like."

And just watch the arrogant parade of apologists imply that dark-skinned women are insatiable and aggressive and that "regular guys" can't be blamed for their actions when overcome by such sexual sirens. Blah blah blah.

Let's be honest for a minute before the whole thing becomes an international dog-and-pony show. Actually, "dog and pony" doesn't quite make the point. For a guy with the power and influence of DSK, it will be more like a tsunami-and-tidal-wave show.

Kobe Bryant's defense tactics will seem downright gentle by comparison.

At the moment, there's a simple truth that says everything about why the maid will soon be destroyed in the press: DNA.

When DNA proves that an act occurred and establishes who did it, there is only one defense: "She wanted it." And in a case like this, where the maid reportedly suffered injuries, the "she-wanted-it" tactic will quickly devolve to the even more despicable "she-likes-it-rough" defense.

It's also possible the whole vile story will go 'poof' now that DSK is out on bail. Even with an electronic bracelet and armed guards minding his every move 24/7, he is free enough to find a way to influence the maid to develop cold feet.

Otherwise known as obstruction of justice, our legal system has amply demonstrated its willingness to turn a blind eye to pay-offs in sex-crime cases when the perpetrator is a man of wealth or influence. Embarrassing, I know.

And with the whole world watching, such a result would surely diminish an already fading respect for the American legal system - in decline since O.J. and picking up speed. It's hard to know what would be worse: watching a million-dollar defense team destroy a vulnerable victim's emotional well-being or watching a poor minority woman pocket a bundle of cash in exchange for her dignity and her truth.

Here's hoping that same inner strength and sense of morality that inspired her to call police will help her resist cash-driven efforts to make the case go away. Her friends say she is an honest woman of integrity. If so, she will understand that justice, like human beings, is not for sale.

http://www.dailynewstranscript.com/opinion/columnists/x1990774903/Murphy-Strauss-Kahn-accuser-must-stand-firm#axzz1PWFic2ZN

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@hawkeye10,

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Maybe the global economic system would be a few minutes further away from doomsday if DSK was on the job, but we will never know the full cost to us of his house arrest in NYC over questions on the consensual foundation for a blowjob.

Come on Hawkeye the well being of the world economic and billions of people is of secondary important to the case of the blow job in New York.

Just ask Firefly she would far prefer taking a chance on a world wide great depression to try to get the evil DSK into a cell.

One can only guess how many women and children would die in the third world alone if the western economic go up in smoke.

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@firefly,

Yes I am sure he would wish his career and chance to be President of France to go up in smoke as long as he could not be taken to jail.

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@firefly,

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Well, that might help to explain why he didn't consider the consequences of what went on in the hotel room. He thought he had a get-out-of-jail-free card up his sleeve.

You have built a conclusion on a "might". And the "might" itself implies that something illegal went on in the room. Why would DSK think he had a get-out-of-jail-free card if nothing illegal happened. What consequences did he have to consider in that event?

You have been finding DSK guilty from the start ff. And all you have done since is try to justify that impulsive and emotional conclusion. Your pride has been engaged. You have lost your cool.

And now you have accused Bill of being stimulated by the images thrown up you have granted us all permission to suggest not only that you have been aroused by them but that dwelling on them at great length is your sole reason for being in the argument. Some of your posts have been pornographic.

And Wendy Murphy's article is disgraceful. Let her put her coy and sentimental sense of justice up against a few million dollars. Our heroine doesn't need Wendy's "look at my principles" fatuities.

Brafman needs to exclude you from any jury and that's for sure.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

This will play well for DSK at trial

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Strauss-Kahn then told the officers he has diplomatic immunity,

Lying will play well at trial?

America's whacked if that is the case.

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@spendius,

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She must have known that to pursue her allegations against the MD of the IMF would lead to her becoming the object of relentless international media attention and harassment and if she didn't the investigating officers would quickly tell her so.

You're just full of assumptions aren't you.

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@BillRM,

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Maybe the global economic system would be a few minutes further away from doomsday if DSK was on the job, but we will never know the full cost to us of his house arrest in NYC over questions on the consensual foundation for a blowjob.

Come on Hawkeye the well being of the world economic and billions of people is of secondary important to the case of the blow job in New York.

You’ve made the argument that the world’s VIP be given extraordinary exemption from the law in several posts. I’d make the opposite argument. The world’s movers and shakers already have extraordinary power that is completely legitimate. They can hire and fire, move incredible amounts of money to fund projects that they decide are worthwhile, have access to the best of everything. While it is in many cases an earned position, it is also one of incredible privilege and is obtained with the consent and the trust of the millions at the bottom of the pyramid that support the pinnacle. People in such positions should be held to the highest standards and should understand that if they violate the trust that supports them, they will be removed. If a CEO falsifies expense reports, he’s gone. I don’t care if he was a great CEO, if he’s going to steal from the company that already pays him eight to nine figures and gives him every perk, he’s just gone. My expectation for the head of the IMF is that he be legally squeaky clean. If he has trouble with drunk driving, hire a chauffer. If he can’t do his taxes correctly, get an accountant. If he wants to hire prostitutes, go to Nevada (or some other place where it is legal.) Everyday folks take shortcuts, sometimes illegal ones, because they lack the resources to get what they want legally. DSK and those in similar positions have no such excuses. If DSK wants to have an affair, not my concern. If he wants to use IMF money to pay for his activities, not going to happen on my watch. If he wants to hire some woman in a place where such is legal to play out a rape fantasy, I don’t really need to know. If he actually rapes a woman, he’s gone and we’ll just have to make Greece and Italy work with the world’s second best banker. That is the only level of accountability among the ultra-powerful, that they may lose their positions. Remove that and all accountability is gone.

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@firefly,

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if she gets that she is sitting good for the civil suit against the hotel and DSK

I'm not sure that the maid can civilly sue the hotel. NYS Worker's Comp law may prevent her from being able to do that.

A statute bar against suing the employer directly only comes into play if she is off work and claiming benefits through Workers Comp. Workers Comp retains the right to sue in that case.

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@ehBeth,

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You're just full of assumptions aren't you.

Without the question mark that is a statement. An untoward assumption at that.

What I said would be obvious. But relentless international media attention is quite muted in her anonymity. But she would have known what to expect. Once she had cooled down from whatever performance she had paraded. In view of the fact that females the world over are being mauled and groped even as we speak and are not going through a similar performance is scientific proof that the performance is entirely psychological. Stick a red hot pin in any of their bottom cheeks and the reaction would be an identical reflex common to every woman on earth. Of all past times. I make no claim to be a fortune teller but I will hazard a guess in all future times too.

I'm not saying for one moment that she had been groped and mauled on previous occasions and had put on a different performance. But it is a possibility. Some would say a probability I think.

Thus, by a process of simple reasoning, the performance in the Sofitel doorway on that fateful day was 100% a psychological event. Nothing to do with the groping and mauling.

Ms Monroe was famous for demonstrating the speed at which the feminine mind can calculate when self interest is at stake and there's a daughter to set up in life in tough circumstances. In Titanic Frances Fisher performed selling her beautiful and innocent daughter to the slimy greaseball with some ease. I presume American ladies hissed at the screen when they saw that performance enacted. If they didn't it would prove something interesting about this thread. And only you know whether you hissed or not. Which I doubt seeing as how you took in your stride the report that our heroine's father had handed her over to a near stranger for permanent groping and mauling. A man who died at a young age too. Not that such a fact is all that significant.

Marilyn could act the calculating machine's visage slowly enough so a few of us could see it. Normally it goes too fast for us self-obsessed men to notice it but I have trained myself over the years to be able to observe the little minds at work. Not with the sort of clarity I would like mind you. But I can make out the fundamental patterns. When I see a young lady rubbing her hand up and down a bloke's back in the pub and standing close listening raptly to him telling her what a good catch he is I can tell that she is thinking about the antique telephone table she is going to buy from B&Q next week which will make her sister green with envy.

Right then--having established, quite efficiently I would say, that the performance was calculated, whatever took place, it was DSK's position in life which was the prime mover. As also for the NYPD. I suppose that the nearest patrolman would have been asked to saunter along for a similar report in the African quarter of the Bronx.

In saying that had she not been aware of the potential of pursuing her allegations the investigating officers would enlighten her I am probably guilty of underestimating her intelligence.

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