@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Today's 'rich' are Washington politicians, lawyers, lobbyist and large
campaign contributors.. we can get along just fine without their kind.
Agreed, that they are in many respects: The Rich, and in addition, they are the powerful, and they act for the rich and the powerful...
I agree that we can live without them in our politics, but we see so much influence, and the people are powerless to stop it... The people suffer money in politics to the extent that they want for democracy in government, and that is because what we have as a substitute for democracy, which is majority rule does not need consensus, and issues often tip right or left on a majority under the influence of the media or of demogogues...
You know, it is perfectly natural that we should have a commander in chief because we were born out of war... But there is absolutly no reason why we should have majority rule or any rule- including that of money- rather than democracy; and democracy demands consensus...
Now, what are the chances that you and I are going to agree on anything??? Slight, unless we both agree that the situation as it stands is unacceptable... Usually, and if the society is ever run right, then, almost always, there is no great push for action or agreement... Government should have the ability to talk things out, and time to educate the population, and then time to put issues before the people for the people to decide...
Even when there is no reason for haste, issues will not be put before this people... The government is not just anti union, which is to say against democracy in the workplace... They are also against democracy in the country, and they allow people no vote on the actual issues that affect their lives... The government craves power, and the reason is that power can be transformed into money, and money can become power in turn...
I certainly do agree with others that your notions are usually hare brained... Even a hare has the sense to run from danger, or to graze where the grass is tall... This people has the good sense to govern itself... We do not need a representative government that is far short of the representative government our founding fathers left us... We suffer a worn out form of government out of respect for the myth that it works, and blame each other when it does not work... This government is only accepted by the rich because it is so corruptable and amenable to their will... They only hate it to the extent that it leads people to believe in rights and democracy though they be nothing more than shams...
I would welcome a world where all the watermen could be represented.... If we had representation at the rate of our founding fathers, every thirty thousand could send their own version of waterman to congress.... Certainly, waterman there would be as intractable, as fractious and irracible there as here, but the difference would be that if small districts were represented by great numbers, then differences could be worked out in government rather than the people being forever burdened with their differences...
You see how districts are now gerrymandered to give one party or the other a certain victory, but the people are now so mercurial that a cushion of 5% cannot be counted on to provide victory... The system designed to deny so many their representation instead makes your representative and mine both hesitant to act for the majority, and fickle goverment going right this instant and left the next cannot possibly be good for this people... The ideal situation, where all agree should be sought if not found on every issue...
Representatives should represent their districts, and while it might deny individual power to representatives to only represent 30K instead of the 600+K they represent today, their loss would be a gain for the institution which is supposed to represent the will of the people democratically... It is hard for one man to represent two... It is hard for one person to represent 30K... It is beyond impossible for a representative to do any sort of a reasonable job for 600+k when the parties have already worked their magic gerrymandering to produce victory out defeat and for the denial of representation of slightly less than half the people...
For the people to be divided so that government can be united only in the quest for wealth and power is insane... Our unity is a prize we should not be denied, worth working for, and certainly worth a few trials for treason...Our unity may be the difference between defeat and victory in some future war of survival..
You see, that when representatives go against the will of their districts they do so on principal which is another way of saying for the money... Well, If a representative was representing few, but a few with common interests who were united in their goals, then he would go to Washington determined to represent only one principal: That those who elected him should have their say, their chance to influence legislation, and their chance to veto all that interfered with their well being... If you want to limit government, then limit it to doing as the people tell it to do, and limit the ability of lawyers and lobbyists to influence the course of government for their benefit...