Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2011 07:12 am
@Ceili,
Now we have glimpse into your thinking.

"Free health insurance". That tells us a lot about how you think the world works.
Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2011 09:09 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
I pay taxes, I don't have a problem with that. I like my standard of living. I like that my neighbours wont go bankrupt because they've had a baby or a car accident or get cancer. I don't pay any health care fees, in my province there are none. I do pay $45 dollars a month, family rate, to an insurance company for all fees not covered by the government plan, such as dental, prescriptions, eye glasses, chiropractors, massage, ambulances...
I think you get the picture. I do believe you bought into your own hype, which is completely false.
Next.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2011 09:13 am
@Ceili,
You hoser, eh!
Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2011 09:16 am
@H2O MAN,
And proud of it!
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 15 Apr, 2011 10:28 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
That tells us a lot about how you think the world works.


Actually, Renaldo, if you took a moment to look around outside your little bubble world, you'd see that that is how a large part of the world works.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 09:02 am
@Ceili,
The quality of care you receive is not anything near what I have. I live only a few miles from the border. I work in the health care business. I know the people who come down here for quality care. There sure aren't any Americans going north for quality health care.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 09:03 am
@JTT,
Is there such a thing as "free health care"? That is what I was referring to. I'd like you to explain how that works, especially since you claim I don't know how the world works. Go for it.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 09:32 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
There are plenty of Americans that come up here for Health Care.
A quick google search will bring you to hundreds of pages on various issues on health care and how Americans are using our system. I invite you to investigate or do your own searches...
A few quick searches lead me to these:
Every year, there are in any group of "new" Canadians, pledging oaths at citizenship courts, many elderly Americans that are forced into bankruptcy because they can't afford your stellar care. In fact, I do believe they make up the majority of new citizens every year.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/121147/canada_health_act_why_uninsured_americans.html?cat=5
In fact, if you look at the stats, many Americans come north of the border for the "free health care" and stiff the system, when it comes time to pay the bills.
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/20/world/americans-filching-free-health-care-in-canada.html
Then there are the tens of thousands of Americans who buy Canadian pharmaceuticals because they can't afford drugs at home.
http://www.suddenlysenior.com/canadiandrugstores.html
You should really investigate more before you make uninformed arguments.

Myths about Canadian Health Care.
http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_12523427

Now for the love of dog, please get back to the other lies.. I realize you are in the Health Care "Business" and it's your duty to protect your bread and butter, but spreading manure on the problem is not Truth.

On a side note, many of the Canadian going to the States for medical care are being funded by the Canadian system, not out of pocket.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 09:41 am
@Ceili,
Here is a link for you.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html

http://asq.org/quality-news/2006/04/14/20060414canadiansrate.html

I don't wait. You do. That's not quality in my opinion.
Ceili
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 09:42 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Second Paragraph of your 2006 article.... But Americans, despite spending far more per capita on health, rate their health care system far worse than all the others, according to the study by the New York-based Commonwealth Fund.

Oh an wait times have come down significantly in the last 5 years.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  1  
Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 09:46 am
@Ceili,
Okay. Show me something that tells me the wait times have come down significantly. Also, I have added another link to my post.
Ceili
 
  1  
Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:07 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
5 yrs ago...
Renaldo Dubois
 
  1  
Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:09 am
@Ceili,
Show me a link on the improved waiting times in Canadian health care. Something more recent within the last 5 years.
Ceili
 
  0  
Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:17 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Here a whole list. Now can we get back to the racism, lies and deceit of the tea baggers?

http://www.google.ca/search?q=canada+wait+times+improved&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Renaldo Dubois
 
  1  
Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:24 am
@Ceili,
That's nice. I'm glad your health care waiting times are improved. You're getting better. Now you can explain how you get your "free health care". Tell me how that works?
parados
 
  0  
Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:27 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
In a 2009 survey of physician appointment wait times in the United States, the average wait time for an appointment with an orthopaedic surgeon in country as a whole was 17 days. In Dallas, Texas the wait was 45 days (the longest wait being 365 days). Nationwide across the U.S. the average wait time to see a family doctor was 20 days.

It's interesting that you whine about the wait times in Canada but ignore the wait times in the US.
In fact the wait times for US and Canada are comparable
US family doctor wait time is 20 days
Canada general doctor wait is 2 weeks (Down from 3 weeks the previous study)

US wait to see specialist is 20.5 days
Canada wait to see specialist is 4 weeks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_health_care_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States

The Canadian study is here
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hcs-sss/alt_formats/hpb-dgps/pdf/pubs/system-regime/2008-fed-comp-indicat/index-eng.pdf
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:32 am
@parados,
Wikipedia is not a credible source. I'm surprised you wouldn't know that. People who use Wikipedia on the internet are not taken seriously.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:34 am
This is an accepted fact in the health care business. We can kiss this goodbye when government health care takes over.

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba596
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Ceili
 
  0  
Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:34 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
I realize you have trouble seeing the truth. I've already answered that question. See above.
Now, as you stated on other threads, back to the topic at hand... Tea party deceit.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 16 Apr, 2011 10:42 am
@Ceili,
Would you agree with me that cancer patients have a better success rate in the USA than anywhere else in the world? We can't move on until we finish this point.
 

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