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Houston Police shown beating suspect

 
 
Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 02:27 pm

It speaks for itself
 
Mame
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 02:35 pm
Well, you know, I can imagine with the 'justice' system the way it is, with felons getting out with a slap on the wrist or minimal time for crime and then doing it again, over and over, that the cops would just get so fed up after a while that some would resort to this type of thing. I don't agree with it, of course, but I can see how it would get to you after a while.

We had a couple of cops here in Canada who drove an inebriated Native American waaaaaaaaaay out of town and dumped him off the highway and he froze to death, so it happens all over.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2011 06:32 pm
@edgarblythe,
wow...

Rolling Eyes
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 06:39 am
@Mame,
Quote:
the cops would just get so fed up after a while that some would resort to this type of thing. I don't agree with it,


Pretty sneaky way to get your plug in while noting that you're not complicit, Mame.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 06:56 am
while i'm sure there are folks out there that deserve a bit of a tune up now and again, how stupid are the cops if they don't know that just about everyone in the public has a camera (and most have video) on them at all time (not to mention patrol car cameras, station surveilance)
engineer
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 07:08 am
@djjd62,
Is you implication here that the police weren't wrong, just stupid for getting caught? I really hope that was a poorly worded joke.

Each of these policemen should be in jail. Each policeman who was there and did not hurl his body between the suspect and his attackers should be fired or arrested as accessories to the attack. Every policeman on the force should be required to watch the video and then watch a tape of the trial so they fully understand that they are not above the law.
djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 07:20 am
@engineer,
actually i wasn't referring to the video, i haven't even watched it, i was just making a general statement

i've seen video where the cops definitely went to far, and i've seen video where the cops handled the situation just fine (in my opinion) but because the incident is captured on video (and sometimes manipulated by the person taping or the news agency reporting it) it blows a situation out of proportion

first thing they should teach any cop, expect that everyone has a camera and act accordingly or face the consequences
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 07:42 am
@engineer,
You dont want to pay for expensive Police, you insist they maintain standards I have seen humans fail at cocktail parties and all the while sticking to the letter of the law that not even courts maintain. Why ?
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chai2
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 08:03 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

actually i wasn't referring to the video, i haven't even watched it, i was just making a general statement



I think you should watch this video djjd.


This guy was being arrested for burglary.

It's pretty obvious adrenaline and testosterone where on overdrive in this video, all on the part of the police.

Not getting my emotions involved, but this looks like a pack of hyenas ripping apart an antelope.
The reason for such violence is not apparent. I'd like to know what happened from the time the suspect started running to when he went down.

If he was merely being chased, and this is what happened when caught, it's inexcusable.
djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 08:18 am
@chai2,
maybe, i doubt it will change my position

recently an RCMP officer kicked a suspect, who was already on the ground, right in the face, i can't condone that, i'm guessing this video is similar ( a clear cut case of abuse) based on the reactions, i still stand by my allegation that not everything captured on video is damning evidence, and the police when faced with bad situations have to make so hard decisions, the fact that everything they do is likely to be captured on video makes the job even tougher

edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 08:53 am
quote -
because the incident is captured on video (and sometimes manipulated by the person taping or the news agency reporting it) it blows a situation out of proportion

Like last week when the testosterone was flowing because a fifty or sixty year old woman did not stop right away when the cops signalled her to pull over. That act so antagonized and worked up the cop to an uncontrollable rage, that when he approached her door, he immediately smashed the glass and began punching her with his fist. Damn manipulated tapes. Reminds me of the video of Rodney King. At the trial, they dissected the tape frame by frame - "See? The guy kicks him in the head and he twitches. That means he is still resisting and the cops have no choice but to continue beating the crap out of him." - paraphrasing, of course.
djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 09:13 am
@edgarblythe,
and i can't condone that either, i'm not here defending bad cops, i'm simply saying the prevalence of video cameras makes their job tougher

Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 09:17 am
@djjd62,
no it doesn't.

as long as they play it straight, cameras assist in their job.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 09:17 am
@djjd62,
Cops are there to do a job. If they can't handle it, they need to resign and let some other cops do it.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:02 am
@Rockhead,
some approved procedures look really bad to the general public, this can be made worse by a video that is taken out of context

again this in no way condones undo violence perpetrated by cops
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:05 am
@djjd62,
our big city cops are trying out body cameras.

and the best thing is, that they are tamper-proof.

this video was way beyond proper procedure.
chai2
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:07 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:

maybe, i doubt it will change my position

i still stand by my allegation that not everything captured on video is damning evidence, and the police when faced with bad situations have to make so hard decisions, the fact that everything they do is likely to be captured on video makes the job even tougher


I totally understand what you're saying.

If for instance this guy pushed someone down stairs while trying to get away, he's done something more serious.
Anything could have happened before he started running.

That's why I'd like to know the back story.

However, even if he had done something bad while making his escape, that's no excuse, to me at least to have stomped this guy.

The motto on the side of police cars here is "to protect and serve", meaning the community.

I don't see them doing either.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:11 am
It is not the job of testosterone to administer justice. That is what the court is for. No matter what a person is guilty of, he is by law innocent until proven guilty.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:24 am
@Rockhead,
i have no problem with that, i like the dashboard cams, body cams are fine

it's private video in the hands of the media that seems to cause most of the problem, the media can be just as crooked as the bad cops, they are supposed to report the truth but really they're after ratings

there have been a few instances in the past few years in canada where a video surfaced making the cops look bad, later other videos changed the perspective on the allegations (one included a partial clip released to the media, on was a single cell phone clip, that changed drastically ( for the better) when another surfaced shot from another direction)

the press covered the crap out of the original stories, but not so much the resolutions

tamperproof video that's official is a great idea
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2011 10:29 am
@djjd62,
Quote:
while i'm sure there are folks out there that deserve a bit of a tune up now and again,


How stupid are you? Plenty, it appears. That is not the job of the police, never has been, never will be, and they get away with too much now as it is.
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