NEW ART PROJECTS GOIN ON?

ummm. dont know. I bought the mag cause it had an article about pencil sketching on gessoed paper (another trick Ive only done as a sketch for painting). American artist is one of those mags that libraries stock , and often coffehouses keep it for the patrons.
Ill google up Ms Luxenburg and see what I can find.
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osso-HA, I found it on line. Hold onSheryl Luxenburgs work

Apparently they posted her work but kept the article back. After you look at them , let me know what you can about those media

sorry farmer haven't used any of those, though I know of them, so no help here.

I don't like those paintings at all - they are so obviously done from photographs with their lack of atmosphere and 'black holes' of shadow with no suggestions of things half seen - they make me feel why bother to paint it if nothing is added creatively? They are simply competent illustrations.


Where are your paintings? wanna seeeeeeee

Im still trying to find a host site when I get time. Every time I leave this thing , it is constantly up loading virues protection and I dont wanna disturb it. Ive taken some pix of my work and tried that foto site you sent , but I got locked out for some reason.

I agree about the missing "soul" in Luxenbergs work. It is the statement that celebrates the act of painting photorealistically rather than art. However , Im always looking for mediums that allow me to slap color around and hold it in one spot and then let it run in another area.
She reminds me of why I dont like Canalettos work. When we learn the tricks that artists use, and they come across as a mere trick, its as bad asthe work of a really poor artist

Well, I don't actually hate the work, but I am also not interested in it. I don't value photorealistic work very highly because of it's effort for clarity of rendition of whatever the place is. Many are drawn to it, and these paintings seem to be charmers for those who want this kind of representation.

People are attracted to different things. Folks who like these would probably scoff at the California landscape painters of old. I'll try to find so good links on those.

As to the technical materials - I've never heard of any of them.

Here. This is a neat museum. It's set at the top of a business building down near South Coast Plaza in Orange County, in a business park near the airport. You park and go up to the (let's say) twelvth floor, and go into a suite of offices all nicely carpetted. And there on the walls, room after room, are wonderful older paintings in the Joan Irvine collection. I drop in when I can get down there to visit my cousins who live in the general area.


The website is a little odd to me in its rusticity vis a vis the museum gallery itself.

Look up Granville Redmond for some painting I do respond to.

http://www.irvinemuseum.org/



Hmmm. They show a lot more of the california painters than are listed on the website - or they used to. I haven't been there in about five years now.

And hmmm, again. Looks like they moved the museum, at least to the ground floor.

Two more names - William Wendt and Edgar Payne.

interesting Osso. There is a great difference in style I notice between here and the US - It's hard to define exactly but US paintings seem to be more concerned with a photorealist image with more restrained colours - I know these aren't strictly photorealist but they kind of head that way a little. Many are highly concerned with tone and less with colour. This is a real generalisation I know and from little knowledge of the whole spectrum of work - but it just strikes me this way from what I've seen.

Those are generally early 20th century painters that are collected as "california landscape painters".

I love Redmond. Vivien-the onnecticut Impressionists , The California Plein Air artists, The Bucks County school, The Ashcan 8 , are all not considered hyprerealists. They are much more Impressionsit leaning and , as in the case of the Calif artists, the term art Nouveau would also fit.

I was more interested in Luxenburgs control of the watercolor by all the chemistry than her work. As I said, I think her work looks like stuff Ive seen that can be done by manipulating Photoshop. Here she is , taking photo after photo, when Photoshop has that "fuzzy" pointillistic effe ct built in. Im gonna go visit the Winsor Newton website and see about what those media can actually do.
Im always interested in taking on some new trickor two. I know with ox gall, Ive done some really wet hard edge blending where 2 colors collide. When I finally figure out how to send stuff , Ill include some of my more abstract "blendscapes" that I achieved with ox gall.

Did you try imageshack or photobucket, farmerman? If you are blocked out of one (forgot password?) try the other...

I find them more Manet than Monet though, which is what I meant when I said they leant towards realist. More Olympia than water lilies - I didn't mean they are totally photorealist, cos obviously they are more painterly than that.

I tried to find a site for the American Museum in Giverny but couldn't - I saw some lovely work there by American artists who painted with the Impressionists - in a much looser style.

I do see a leaning towards realism in a lot of contemporary US work in the same way as the Californian school. This may be because I only see a small percentage and not representative of the overall picture?

There's a very wide range of work, Vivien. To some extent more developed artists move away from both impressionism, and modernism and into concept and landforms, video, installation, and so on. There still remains a recalcitrant batch of folks that like painting as a activity and don't think it is dead yet. There is a kind of conservatism in the whole panoply.

that's good - I only see a small fraction of what's going on of course.

farmer if you like you could pm me your email then I could set up a (free) photobucket account for you - you have to click on a link in the email they send you to activate the site and then you are ready to start uploading.

vivien. Ive gotta do this myself and Ive heard that in PA, the county GIS offices are setting up servers for image transfer and will host county residents. It should be up very soon. As always, I thanks you guys for your help, advice and patience.

A question that requires some cooks knowledge. Anyone have a home recipe for a gesso mix. Most of the available gessos are an acrylic base and Im seeking to do some pencil sketches on a gesso board. I also want to dye the gesso mix so I can play with a chiaroscuro effect. My colored paper, my white pencil and my black pencil.

A fellow at our art building makes his own, farmerman, but I won't be seeing him for about a month. If no one has answered by then, I'll ask him...

sorry no gesso recipes

Just back from a few days away on the South Wales/England border in beautiful country, but not brilliant weather.

A gorgeous area and we stayed in a tiny little ancient stone cottage

I stopped off in the Malverns (range of hills) as planned to visit the gallery where David Prentice shows regularly - lovely - and then when I get home there's an invitation to a preview soon in Stow on the Wold, which I'll try to get to

neat vivien. Does he have any new works? I am really inspired by his ability to catch the fleeting light.
I asked a question on another forum about a trip were taking and I wanna take the minimalist approach and take only those art materials that can be stowed in a stern room area . Im gonna take pencils erasers, coloree watercolor pencils brush (2) a flat and a sable watercolor, some india ink and only 2 tablets . Im also gonna take some gesso and 2 tubes of blue acrylic and an umber for coloring the gesso. I gave up on thehomemade ****. Its a mess , and for 12 bucks I can get a quart of acrylic gesso.

yes and he's been experimenting with mirrors integrated into the work - 3D - that look interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing the show - preview is May 14th and I'll try to make it.

It is about 60 miles from here and the drive is down an old Roman road - narrow and through pretty country and typical of Roman roads it doesn't go through towns or villages - the villages/towns were always off down side roads and still are.

His shows pretty much sell out so the work is usually totally new. He has gone into selling giclee prints so they pop up again and again.

link to images


I notice there is an option to 'download catalogue' - so you could see them all by the looks of it (I have the catalogue).

I love the way that he can look at the landscape and do gorgeous free observational paintings that develop in the studio into these absolutely brilliant big abstracted canvasses and pastel paintings.

It was great to see the Malvern hills that he paints and I'd like to revisit and explore at leisure - it's a longish drive from here but is possible for a day trip starting early and coming home late - unfortunately by horribly busy motorways through boring scenery.