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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
JPB
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 05:36 pm
Mitt better start campaigning against someone other than Obama.

Quote:
Perry jumps to top of another national poll
By Domenico Montanaro, Political Reporter, NBC News

Rick Perry has shot to the top of yet another national poll.

The Texas governor now leads in a new CNN/Opinion Research poll 32%-18% over Mitt Romney.

Rep. Michele Bachmann is third with 12%. No one else cracks double digits. Newt Gingrich pulls in 7%, Rep. Ron Paul 6%, Herman Cain 3%, Gary Johnson 2%, Jon Huntsman, Rick Santorum, and Thaddeus McCotter all at 1%. Neither Huntsman nor Santorum has been able to break through despite full-fledged, on-the-ground campaigning.

With Sarah Palin and Rudy Giuliani factored in, Perry still leads by 13 percentage points, 27%-14% over Romney. Palin gets 10%, jumping ahead of Bachmann at 9%. Giuliani also gets 9%.

The poll is a marked shift from earlier this month, just before Perry got in, when Romney led Perry 23%-18%.

Perry's base, according to the poll, appears to be men and voters age 50-64. He also leads by a wide margin among those who identify as Tea Party. Source
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 06:54 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
If he wins the nomination, I will vote for him in the general election and not while holding my breath.

Right now...he's too plastic.


Thanks.
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 06:12 am
Oh, goodie! A "let's take it to 'em" kinda guy.

Quote:
Perry offers outline of foreign policy platform

From NBC's Carrie Dann:
Texas Gov. Rick Perry offered the broad outlines of his foreign policy philosophy at an annual gathering of veterans Monday, telling attendees that he opposes "military adventurism" while also advocating for "taking the fight to the enemy" and decrying indecision by "multi-lateral debating societies" at times of international crisis.

"We must renew our commitment to taking the fight to the enemy wherever they are, before they strike at home. I do not believe that America should fall subject to a foreign policy of military adventurism," he said at the annual convention of Veterans of Foreign Wars in San Antonio. "We should only risk shedding American blood and spending American treasure when our vital interests are threatened."More
revelette
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 08:34 am
@JPB,


Quote:
"We must renew our commitment to taking the fight to the enemy wherever they are, before they strike at home. I do not believe that America should fall subject to a foreign policy of military adventurism,"


I guess he is saying that Libya was/is an exercise in adventurism and our vital interest was not at stake. Hello--Iraq.

The rest I am pretty sure is the Libya effort led by NATO (which includes the US) instead of led by the US.

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maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 10:00 am
@Setanta,
I agree with you...but that's the reality we're in.

And no one in Congress has ANY will do make the changes that are needed to be made to resolve the current problem with SS/Medicare.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 11:25 am
Will Hillary run against Obama?
25% of democrats don't want Obama on the ticket on 2012.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 12:26 pm
@H2O MAN,
75% of Republicans don't want Perry on the ticket.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 01:29 pm
@parados,
Why the conflict that he's the front-runner?
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 03:01 pm
How Does Next Tuesday Work For You?
The Republican National Committee continues to herd kittens when it comes to the matter of states scheduling caucuses and primaries.
Typically, Iowa and New Hampshire get to go first. For the moment, the Iowa caucus is on for Feb 6th and NH has selected Feb 14th for its primary followed by Nevada on Feb 18th. South Carolina would get to go 1st at the end of January. Iowa and NH evidently will tolerate this since SC is, well, simply SC. At least 9 other states are planning on having primaries and the RNC wants them to schedule voting on Super Tuesday, March 6th.
But several states have other plans. Arizona is looking at Jan 31st. Repub Governor Brewer has to pick a date 150 days in advance of the voting. This Friday would be the deadline if the state party wants it to be Jan 31st.
It is expected that Iowa would settle on 1/2, followed by NH 1/10, Nevada 1/21, SC 1/24 and FL 1/28.
But it is entirely possible that the RNC may end up with votes well before Christmas!
I don't know how this might play out for the candidates; a marathon becomes a sprint.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 03:42 pm
@parados,
That's not accurate, which I expect you realize.

That Perry scores roughly 25% in these polls certainly doesn't mean that 75% of Republicans don't want him to be the Republican nominee.

However it is accurate that polls indicate roughly 25% of Democrats dont want Obama as their candidate in 2012.

This has to be worrying to O and his boys.

No one is going to take him from his party and the 25% are not going to vote Republican, but they could stay home.

Who is going to vote for O in 2012 that didn't vote for him in 2008? Plenty who did, will not again.
.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 06:52 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Sarcasm impaired?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 07:28 pm
@parados,
I'm not sure about sarcasm, but impaired, yes!
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 11:56 am
Obama has just requested Speaker Boenner for the opportunity to address Congress on Sept 7th at 8 pm ET. That happens to coincide with the Republican candidates' debate in California.
Some Repubs are not happy at the conflict.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 12:06 pm
A joke - don't know if it's new or not - making the rounds.

Ruger is coming out with a new pistol in honor of Senators and Congressmen.

It will be named the Congressman.

It doesn't work and you can't fire it.
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revelette
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 09:51 am
@realjohnboy,
Quote:
The White House is in "move beyond it" mode following Wednesday's dust-up with House Speaker John Boehner over the date of President Obama's speech to Congress next week.

"We want to focus on the big issues, not the small ones, not the side shows. I think most Americans are probably not paying attention to this. This in terms of the scheduling issue was a Washington thing," White House spokesman Jay Carney said in an interview with CBS Radio.

"We were happy once it became clear Wednesday was not an option. Our focus is on the speech," Carney said.

The spokesman predictably said the controversy won't hurt the long term Obama-Boehner "working relationship." As for the back story, he says the White House wanted the speech as soon as Congress returned from its recess.

Carney insisted "no objection was raised" when the White House called to say "we were making a request for September 7" until Boehner's subsequent letter citing logistical and parliamentary problems.

As for the general message of the speech itself, Carney said Mr. Obama plans to say he wants "action and compromise and sensible solutions."


source
revelette
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 10:08 am
Quote:
Congressional historians said Mr. Boehner’s move was unprecedented.

“The Senate Historical Office knows of no instance in which Congress refused the president permission to speak before a joint session of Congress,” Betty K. Koed, associate historian with the Senate, said in an e-mail. “Permission to speak in a joint session is given by resolution of the House and Senate, and arrangements are made through the leadership offices of each chamber.”

White House officials held talks with Mr. Boehner’s office into the night Wednesday. At 9:17 p.m., the White House released a statement to the news media saying it had agreed to change the date to Sept. 8.

A White House official said Mr. Obama and his advisers had chosen Wednesday because it was Congress’s first day back. "The debate was never really an issue," because there are a total of 20 and three this month alone, said the official, who would not allow his name to be used because he was not authorized to speak publicly. "Had Mr. Boehner told us he had a problem with Wednesday this morning," when the White House consulted him, the official said, "we would have done Thursday from the beginning."

The scheduling clash came at a time when public confidence in Washington to move beyond partisan bickering is at historic lows. The fracas also had the potential to rattle already jittery markets.

“If the objective of the White House and Speaker Boehner was to demonstrate to the American people that they have gotten the message from the markets and from voters that our economic straits are so dire that it is time to set petty politics aside, they have failed before they started,” said David Rothkopf, a former Commerce Department official in the Clinton administration. “This childish gamesmanship regarding timing reconfirms to the world that Washington is a sandbox full of petulant children who don’t play well together.” He called Wednesday’s antics “late-summer silliness.”


source

My question is: what why were the republicans afraid to have the president on at the same time as yet another republican debate? Would networks have no choice but to air the Presidents speech at congress?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 10:11 am
@revelette,
They are children who do not belong in Washington DC. Why do we continue to elect these people into our government? Will we ever learn? It's so dismal, there's nothing left for the people of this country.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 10:41 am
@revelette,
Quote:
My question is: what why were the republicans afraid to have the president on at the same time as yet another republican debate?
What makes you think fear is involved? The way the REPUBS keep beating Obama lately that does not seem likely.
revelette
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 10:54 am
@hawkeye10,
what else could it be? If they wasn't afraid, they should have just let Obama go on the same day as the debates and beat him up with it. But they didn't.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 11:08 am
@parados,
Where does that statistic come from?
Did you just make it up, or do you have a source for it?
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