The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

I had sort of been leaning towardds Gov. Daniels of Indiana.

But since he decided not to run, I am not sure about anyone.
I know that there are 3 possible candidates that will NOT receive my vote, in fact if they should win the nomination I will work to defeat them.
Those 3 are Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, and Newt.

Other then that, I am still totally in the undecided column.
I dont really know enough about any of the other candidates right now to be able to form an opinion about them.
As this election cycle progresses I will be able to make an informed choice.

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@mysteryman,

mm, I really do not believe any of those three will win the nomination; me thinks they would only push voters to Obama.

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@cicerone imposter,

In Iowa today (a large grower of corn for ethanol), Tim Palwenty said:
"The truth about federal energy subsidies, including...ethanol is that they have to be phased out."
Nationally, the ethanol subsidies cost around $6Bn (I have seen a lower number) with additional costs to people who eat, as corn for fuels competes with corn for food.

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@realjohnboy,

There's long been talk, serious talk about reducing the subsidies that go to US agriculture.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

There's long been talk, serious talk about reducing the subsidies that go to US agriculture.

A lot of talk, JTT, followed by decisions "...to study the issues..." surrounding subsidies, JTT.
I wrote about this (including amounts to various forms of energy) on the economics thread a few weeks ago. I based it on a comprehensive 6 page article I read and printed out. My post didn't get a lot of response, as I recall.

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@JPB,

JPB wrote:

. . .someone who can't quite avow himself of anything, and a mishmash of other players.

Reminds me of a line from The Manchurian Candidate. "It's not that you sometimes shoot from the hip; sometimes you don't shoot at all."

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@realjohnboy,

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My post didn't get a lot of response, as I recall.

I never saw that, RJB. Ain't never been there.

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@JTT,

The thread is called "Where Is the Economy Headed?" Some 16K posts and 200K views from the usual gang. I am a small e economist and write stuff that cures insomnia.

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@realjohnboy,

Any good tags, a link perhaps, RJB?

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The vote in the NY 26th House special election race is tomorrow. The traditional Repub seat may fall to a Dem. The media is making too big a deal about it, in my mind. The Repub is not particularly strong and there is a largely self-financed Indy who is waving the Tea party movement flag even though he doesn't have the full endorsement of the TP, The Dems are claiming, falsely, that it proves a backlash against the Repubs' economic agenda.

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For all the Republican hand-wringing over the state of the race, there is one place where the strength of the potential field is not being discounted: the Obama White House.

Strategists there note the country is so divided that any credible contender is likely to emerge from the nominating contest with a strong, energized base of support and adequate financial resources.

Said one adviser to the Obama reelection campaign, who spoke on the condition of anonymity: “Through the process of winning that nomination, they will achieve stature, and by the reality of having won that nomination, they will be competitive with the president at fundraising.”

Added another: “Unless it’s Palin or Gingrich, we expect a very close race no matter who emerges.”

source

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@realjohnboy,

From what I can tell, (reading the post today) Palwenty does have a history of supporting what most republicans like to call big government. He even bragged about it in 2006 but then sort of back peddled when interviewed by Limbaugh.

Republican presidential candidate Pawlenty bends his truth-telling

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@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

The vote in the NY 26th House special election race is tomorrow. The traditional Repub seat may fall to a Dem. The media is making too big a deal about it, in my mind. The Repub is not particularly strong and there is a largely self-financed Indy who is waving the Tea party movement flag even though he doesn't have the full endorsement of the TP, The Dems are claiming, falsely, that it proves a backlash against the Repubs' economic agenda.

Well; it is fair to say that Medicare has been THE topic of this race. And it's hurt the Republican, Corwin, badly.

And it's going to be toxic for Republicans running next year as well. I can't see them moving forward with the 2012 election without completely repudiating this plan. I mean, the numbers on 'cutting medicare' are simply terrible:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/21/medicare-cuts-lose-election-poll_n_864989.html

Cycloptichorn

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@JPB,

JPB wrote:

What about Santorum? Is he in or pondering?

Republican Rick Santorum will officially announce his candidacy for president the week of June 5, a Santorum aide confirms to NBC News.

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@roger,

heh,

Newt is trying to say that he's not a Washington insider. That's only because they threw him out.

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@JPB,

Poor Rick; his chances to win are essentially zero, thanks to the Googlebombing that was done on his name.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Lucky us!!!

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Those who are naming names like Mitt, but most folks don't know who they'll vote for.

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Mitt Romney is the leading choice among New Hampshire Republicans as their party's 2012 presidential nominee, but most still have no idea who will get their first-in-the-nation primary vote in February, a survey showed on Monday.

The CNN/WMUR poll released by the University of New Hampshire Survey Center showed the former Massachusetts governor favored by 32 percent of likely Republican primary voters, consistent with the findings of other recent polls.

...

Some 87 percent of Republican primary voters in the CNN/WMUR poll said they had "no idea" who they would vote for, while just 4 percent said they had their minds firmly made up.

The telephone survey, conducted between May 18 and May 22, polled 347 residents who said they planned to vote in the Republican primary The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 5 percentage points. More

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@JPB,

Indeed.

So, it looks like there are only two serious candidates at this point: Romney and Pawlenty. Both have serious liabilities in their past, which will be exploited to the fullest by each other and by Obama.

Just as an example, Pawlenty has some quotes out there which have been dug up and look pretty damning to him; just a few years ago, he said "the era of 'small government' is over," and "the government needs to be more aggressively involved with regulation."

It's going to be hard for him to win the GOP primaries with past statements like that floating around; and there are a hundred more. He's not an especially conservative fellow.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

I was just reading an interesting synopsis of that here.

The point about Pawlenty not having the resources for the long haul is valid. I still like Huntsman as a dark horse.

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