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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 12:17 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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I think the guy is sitting around laughing at how some people are playing right into his hands...including all the advertising withdrawals. My guess is he is hoping his "fans" boycott the companies who pull out...and that it is reported. I am sure he figures that kind of thing will make him look more powerful than the fat, obnoxious bag of crap that he is.

The company has a choice of losing 75% of their potential customers or 1% of their potential customers? Which monetary choice will they make? Boycotts by Rush's listeners are about as effective as home schoolers boycotting Disney World.

I see this as Rush vs social media. His listeners won't have the ability to contact those companies like his detractor do.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 12:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
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He has power...


He certainly does among the conservatives of the nation.

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...which comes wholly from the vacuum of leadership in Washington.


I respect your right to have that opinion, but I think there is more than enough leadership in Washington to go around. I sometimes wish there were a little less of it...or that the leadership lead in a particular direction rather than all over the place as it now does.

In any case, he is a windbag in my opinion...not a leader.



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Rush is filling a need, so there is no need for hostility towards him.


I do not think he is filling a need...and I think hostility toward the kind of nonsense he spouts is damn near a requirement of good citizenship. I recognize we disagree on this.

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What the power of Rush should tell you is that Washington is currently a very dysfunctional place.


I do not need Rush Limbaugh to recognize that there is plenty of dysfunction in Washington. It is very evident. I think people like Rush add to the problem...not subtract from it.



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All of this hyperventilation about one guy is a diversion from what matters, from the work that we need to do.


Yeah, we agree there. But most of it comes from Rush's self-promotion. He wants this and courts it. I just wish everyone would stop playing into his plan. To that end, I will probably not even address the issue except in this thread.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 12:22 pm
@hawkeye10,
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He has power, which comes wholly from the vacuum of leadership in Washington. Rush is filling a need, so there is no need for hostility towards him. What the power of Rush should tell you is that Washington is currently a very dysfunctional place. All of this hyperventilation about one guy is a diversion from what matters, from the work that we need to do.


Which is setting aside "It's the economy, stupid" in a nutshell. Heavy work hawk.

Man does not live by bread alone.

With a mantra like that, a cleaned up version of Orwell's "stick rattling in a bucket", and given the skill of the players, a messy draw in Washington is inevitable. We have one ourselves.

ci. said that a win is a win. So why bid for 55% when you win with 52%? And Mr Obama is in place to tweak the necessaries. The others are promises. Mrs Thatcher wanted 80%, the silly old bat. Nay 100%.

"This wheel's on fire,
Rolling down the road.
Best notify my next of kin
This wheel shall explode."

When is what matters, not if.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 12:43 pm
@spendius,
FDR's policy of easy sympathy with oppressed colonials with ideals of their liberation and welfare is well known to have been congruent with the calculation of American advantage. Quite rightly to a certain extent.

The lady who Mr Rimbaugh called a slut has a policy, or is one of the mouthpieces of those who have a policy, to sympathise with oppressed fun lovers and downright cheaters on evolution's very long standing mechanisms and to liberate them and look to their welfare.

You can decide for yourselves whether any calculation of advantage is in play and who has the ball.

They train donkeys with sugar lumps. Like Mailer said--if somebody is urging their good works on you, run.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 12:50 pm
@spendius,
spendi, With the long history of the Brits doing untold crimes against humanity around the world, why don't you look inward for a change. It might be good for your mental health.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 01:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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spendi, With the long history of the Brits doing untold crimes against humanity around the world, why don't you look inward for a change. It might be good for your mental health.


Gee, Al Capone taking a swing at Ronnie Kray.

Hey, Al, would you like me to provide you a link to the word 'hypocrisy'?
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 02:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Once the Luddites were crushed looking outwards was the only option.

If efficiency and productivity are good things where else is there to go?

Work expands to fill the spaces available to do it.

JTT--I thought the Krays to be horrible people. Mawkish, sentimental and ruthless by turns.

I spent half the afternoon digging two tons of cow **** into my veggie patch. Is that inward looking enough? If I say it was horse work I am not mixing my metaphors.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 05:40 pm
@JTT,
YOU ARE A LINK.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 05:51 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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why don't you look inward for a change. It might be good for your mental health.


That's quite funny ci. Here's me digging cow **** into my veggie patch all afternoon and you studying travel agent's brochures about which parts of the world you are thinking of condescending to "see" next.

You are admitting being in need of mental health treatment it seems to me and it's a first example of you saying something sensible.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:22 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

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who gives a **** what you think on any subject? surely few if any around here. You seem like a smart fellow. I'm surprised you don't get that.


Are you trying to browbeat me with idiotic words to tailor my contributions on A2K to meet the standards of most people. ci. states regularly that you are all stupid. In which case you are pressuring me to address myself to the stupid.

**** off you silly twat. Mind your own words on here and I'll mind mine. If you want to address me then address my posts and not some personal fantasies of your own about what I seem to be or what I do or don't get based upon you not reading properly.

Those who don't give a **** about what I have to say should act accordingly and not start jumping up and down as if they are parading some sort of superior stance. Put me on Ignore eh? That's for people who don't give a ****. At least it will save you embarrassing yourself with gumpy remarks like those you have seen fit to regale the thread with to no purpose.

You get that.




I didn't put you on ignore sweetie. Have a drink and calm down.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:42 pm
Rush Limbaugh apologizes.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:57 pm
@reasoning logic,
Limbaugh is the slut; he sells his soul to win back his sponsors. Who believes any apology from this scum?
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 10:22 pm
@reasoning logic,
...after he's threatened with a slander suit by the law student he made fun of....
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 10:29 pm
@DrewDad,
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/404920_276963402371738_148995391835207_609326_956984259_n.jpg
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2012 05:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
Whatever words Mr Limbaugh chose to characterise Ms Fluke with he surely has a point that it is absurd to be discussing personal sexual recreational activities in the nation's highest forum. There is no doubt that contraception facilitates a recreational activity which can only be designated as "sex" by hung up puritans with a genital fixation.

Why shouldn't golfers get free equipment on Ms Fluke's argument. There must be millions of Americans who can't afford to play golf.

What Ms Fluke has done is strip away all arguments about contraception except the eugenics one. And the eugenics argument has a long history and has been held by some very eminent scientists, philosophers and intellectuals in public and possibly by many more people privately.

Flukists on here are simply too spineless to make the eugenics argument which is why they are all in twisted knicker situations and can only use insults to counter the other view.

Explain to me ci. why recreational genital manipulations deliberately involving removing the fertility possibility can be classed as "sex". Why are such activities any different from any other recreational activity?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2012 06:15 am
@spendius,
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What Ms Fluke has done is strip away all arguments about contraception except the eugenics one
It must be Sunday because spendis cartoon language is in color
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2012 07:03 am
@farmerman,
It doesn't matter what colour it's in fm. It says what it says in any colour. Have you anything to say about what it says?

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What Ms Fluke has done is strip away all arguments about contraception except the eugenics one.


Are homosexuals, for example, expected to subsidise the recreational activities of those Ms Fluke is campaigning for? Pensioners? Anybody who doesn't use contraceptive devices or chemicals on their lady love?

There's only one argument--the eugenics one. Either make it or shut up. Stopping the poor breeding as much as they do. Real socialism.

Get on with it old boy or admit you're scared.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2012 08:05 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
Are homosexuals, for example, expected to subsidise the recreational activities of those Ms Fluke is campaigning for?


Free condoms for gays isn't a bad idea.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2012 08:26 am
@izzythepush,
Or free needles for users, either.

Sometimes making things free...saves money in the long run.

Free sterilized needles may seem an expense, but if they prevent much more costly illnesses and diseases, they become a net savings.

Same thing goes for contraceptives.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 4 Mar, 2012 08:34 am
@Frank Apisa,
Strange that Spendi is taking this argument to America. It's already settled over here. The NHS pays for IVF treatment as well. Childless couples seeking babies have got to be one of the smallest interest groups going. Universal health care is just that, universal. You may as well argue why people should pay for the upkeep of roads they won't use.
 

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