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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 01:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

We can blame the voters for this problem; we've known this transfer from government work into becoming lobbyists for many years, but we keep voting in the same people to earn their training before they change jobs.

With congress' rating at 10%, we need a 100% changeover. It's up to us to do just that, but I don't expect miracles. Voters are clueless in what we've created and sustained for too long.

I don't have much hope for a change either. That's why politics is so depressing. The only thing I ever assume is that we'll get someone (or some group of people) who are just barely adequate. The only excitement comes avoiding the potential "disaster" candidates.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 01:22 pm
@rosborne979,
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I don't have much hope for a change either. That's why politics is so depressing. The only thing I ever assume is that we'll get someone (or some group of people) who are just barely adequate. The only excitement comes avoiding the potential "disaster" candidates.


Well, I don't think Barack Obama is merely adequate. I think he has done a decent job in one of the most toxic political environments ever. I doubt the best progressive politicians of the past (FDR, LBJ) could have gotten much better results considering the obstructionist tactics of the opposition since Obama got into office.

I will vote for Obama not because he is the lesser of two evils...or because he is not a potential disaster candidate...but because he is a capable guy who has managed to get something one where others might have come up totally empty handed. He is a pragmatist who recognizes the futility of the situation he is facing...and he is getting what he can, rather than pouting and getting nothing.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 02:35 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank, I know what and where you are coming from; Obama has accomplished miracles in a political environment that is the most toxic in contemporary American history. I don't care for all the mistakes Obama has made, but considering the No Party obstructionist handicap, it's a wonder he's accomplished as much as he has.

On top of that, we have the GOP candidates who talk a good game of creating jobs, but have never produced any solutions other than more tax cuts.

They don't see the results of GW Bush's 2002-2003 tax cuts that resulted in loss of jobs by the millions, cuts in government services, and reductions in funding our infrastructure and education. Many communities are laying off safety officers, teachers, and other government staff for lack of funding and bigger deficits.

More tax cuts to give bigger tax cuts to the wealthy is not only foolish but self-destructive. They're working very hard to move us into a third world country.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 02:47 pm
Herbert Hoover said in 1940--

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In every single case before the rise of totalitarian governments there had been a period dominated by economic planners.


Appropriations from Congress for the purpose of contraception are applying economic planning to the female reproductive system. The Church is simply leaving such matters to nature. I don't see how the Church can be said to be seeking control over the female reproductive systems when it is for leaving them alone.

He also said--

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The moment responsibilities of any community, particularly in economic and social questions, are shifted from any part of the nation to Washington, then that community has subjected itself to a remote bureaucracy. . . . It has lost a large part of its voice in the control of its own destiny.


And state organised contraception is both an economic and a social issue. A dream world for frustrated eugenicists.

And President Hoover also said--

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Each time I knew before I spoke that our people would not believe that the impairment of freedom could happen here. Yet each subsequent four years has shown these warnings to have been too reserved, too cautious.


The position of the Republican candidates is thus explained as an attempt to hold back totalitarianism. Contraception being one of the few significant areas of life which remains in the hands of the people.

The other side have been lying through their teeth about the Church seeking to control women. The precise opposite is the case. It is the other side, as befits socialists, which is seeking not just control of women but Total Control.

Getting contraception "free" is the juicy bait on the hook. And watch the control freaks weave their sophistries and lies around it as if they are going to save us all when all they are actually doing is exposing their soft underbelly.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 02:52 pm
@spendius,
spendi, Did you know some women require contraception for medical reasons?
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 02:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Many communities are laying off safety officers, teachers, and other government staff for lack of funding and bigger deficits.


That's good news.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 02:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I don't think that's a significant fact. Some people require contraception so they can talk about ovaries.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:03 pm
@MontereyJack,
I can't think of a better endorsement of Mitt's conservative bonafides than your criticism. His campaign should pot it on their website.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:05 pm
@spendius,
I would like to met you in order to determine if you are really as stupid an asshole as you seem to be on this site.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:05 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I can't think of a better endorsement of Mitt's conservative bonafides than your criticism. His campaign should pot it on their website.


Weak. What MJ wrote wasn't even a stiff criticism, not even specific; why would it look good on Mitt's website?

Answer: it wouldn't, but you couldn't think of a better response and had to write something. Right?

Cycloptichorn
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:15 pm
Finn, well,if you think Romney being a panderer to special interests will help him out in his campaign, then I think you should definitely suggest to his people that they add it to his website.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:26 pm
@spendius,
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RABEL222

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@spendius,
I would like to m(e)et you in order to determine if you are really as stupid an asshole as you seem to be on this site.


amen.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:34 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Appropriations from Congress for the purpose of contraception are applying economic planning to the female reproductive system. .


What's this about appropriations from Congress? Congress (the US) is not paying for this. It's kind of what they usually call an unfunded mandate.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:38 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Why aren't more advertisers cutting ties with Limbaugh? Seems that the consumers should stop buying from those companies still funding the Limbaugh show.

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Advertisers cut Limbaugh ties after 'slut' remark

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- Two advertisers have cut ties with the nationally syndicated "Rush Limbaugh Show" after the conservative talk-show host called an activist for women's contraception a "slut," news reports said Friday. Select Comfort Corp. , which makes the "Sleep Number" bed, was the second advertiser to pull out of the program, following on the heels of a mattress retailer, Sleep Train Mattress Stores, according to MSNBC and the website Politico. The companies pulled their ads after Limbaugh called activist Sandra Fluke a "slut" after she testified that contraception coverage should be required for health insurers. The comment drew fire from across the political spectrum, as Republican House Speaker John Boehner called it "inappropriate" and Carly Fiorina, a 2010 Republican candidate for a U.S. Senate seat in California, said the remarks were "insulting."
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Seems that the consumers should stop buying from those companies still funding the Limbaugh show.


Any decent human would.

What needs to happen is attention should be brought to these companies by activist.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:56 pm
@RABEL222,
Sorry RABEL--I should have said build a career out of talking about ovaries. What's it to them what women do? Their compassion doesn't run so far if it's only going to be exercised on facilitating bedroom farces. Not compared to those people working in Africa and other places on a lot less money and in trying conditions.

Calling me names is trolling. A waste of your time as well as that of others. You're taking advantage of conservatives on here being a bit timid. You're claque bullying.

Go and boil your silly, gumpy head eh? It might work.



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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:57 pm
@reasoning logic,
there's a petition going around with the email addresses of contact people for their sponsors. I already signed it
http://dccc.org/pages/denounce-rush#.T0_w4CRjiK0.facebook
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 03:58 pm
@roger,
Sorry roger--I hadn't realised it was unfunded.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 04:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Why is Mr Limbaugh calling someone a slut worse than RABEL calling me a "stupid asshole".

"Slut" can mean a promiscuous woman, a prostitute or a slovenly woman and he might have meant that her thinking was slovenly which I think it is. It is what I am trying to demonstrate.

And a "stupid asshole" has only one meaning. That RABEL is lost for words and is emotionally upset. Poor dear.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 04:12 pm
@spendius,
Because you are a "stupid asshole." You prove that almost every day on a2k.
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