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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 04:48 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Politics and human emotion are weird, hard items to predict. You'd THINK that someone should show up soon, but many times a last minute shining hope (preferably NOT a white male) may jazz the electorate...

Not sure anyone is waiting in a corridor...but the current GOP field is old news...and the news isn't good....per me.
sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 04:49 pm
@Lash,
Right, that was his first national moment... in 2004! I don't think any Republican possibilities have had a "national moment" in the past three years who (if they haven't explicitly ruled out a run) aren't already considered a contender.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 04:52 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Politics and human emotion are weird, hard items to predict. You'd THINK that someone should show up soon, but many times a last minute shining hope (preferably NOT a white male) may jazz the electorate...

Not sure anyone is waiting in a corridor...but the current GOP field is old news...and the news isn't good....per me.


Let's be honest with ourselves here: the nominee for the Republicans is going to be a white male.

The big problem for the GOP is that they have fractured somewhat, between the 'tea party' base and the money-man Republicans, who damn well know that a Tea Party candidate will just hand the election to Obama.

Cycloptichorn
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 04:58 pm
@sozobe,
Yeah, but there may be some retooled guy or girl with old cache who may surprise us with a re-emergence - some quiet scion - some largely unknown Gov or Sen, who has done something, said something, has some burning passion... Sometimes a military/ social event will occur - the Prez may waffle on it- and the electorate runs like rats to the other side of the ship, where somebody is saying the right thing...

The mathematical equation has a zillion variables. Of course, the GOP may come up with empty hands...

It's what I love about political season. Anything can happen.

Smiling. I'm sort of moved sitting here, thinking of a Harry Truman, a Robert Kennedy, ...

We'll never see it again, will we? It's such a ******* business.

Anyway. Let the show begin.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 04:59 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
I would agree with your last statement, Cyclo, about anyone else getting in beyond August, 2011. The Repubs have a lot of campaign operatives fully capable of running campaigns and raising money, but they want a pony to ride. That will have to be decided relatively soon.
I repeat that Marco Rubio, while being too inexperienced to run for president, will be the VP candidate. It makes so much sense for the Repubs.
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 05:01 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Both parties have their extremes. They both find a way to deal. In Georgia, we call it kissing your sister...
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 05:21 pm
I thought in Georgia that was just called Saturday night. Razz
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 05:22 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

I would agree with your last statement, Cyclo, about anyone else getting in beyond August, 2011. The Repubs have a lot of campaign operatives fully capable of running campaigns and raising money, but they want a pony to ride. That will have to be decided relatively soon.
I repeat that Marco Rubio, while being too inexperienced to run for president, will be the VP candidate. It makes so much sense for the Repubs.


He has repeatedly and loudly claimed that he will run on no national ticket this cycle. And why should he? He's young and popular in his state. Another 4 years and he'll probably only be MORE popular - and with no Obama to face.

In fact, I would bet that the prospect of facing Obama keeps several candidates out of the race who otherwise might be interested...

Cycloptichorn
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 05:30 pm
I don't think Gingrich will get the nomination, but I would love to see a debate between only Gingrich and Obama. I think something shocking like that would finally wake some liberals up.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 06:05 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
I could see Rubio running with Romney. The Repubs would win FL and gain some traction with Hispanics nationwide. Rubio will gain some points with Repubs for fighting the good fight even as Obama wins a 2nd term.
Most importantly, Cuba is collapsing socially and economically. Rubio and Obama could make the transition in Cuba happen, which would be a major achievement after 50 years of the Castro's.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 06:15 pm
@realjohnboy,
Rubio's time is 2016 and beyond.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 07:09 pm
@Lash,
It is of course possible. I'm just saying that I think it's already too late for someone to follow the Obama trajectory, as you suggested in the post I first responded to here.

He's thought of as a late-breaking fresh face, but was pretty well known by the time he declared his candidacy and certainly by this point in the 2008 race.
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 07:25 pm
@Lash,
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and the electorate runs like rats to the other side of the ship, where somebody is saying the right thing..


You mean "weaving the right lies".
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 07:40 pm
@realjohnboy,
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which would be a major achievement after 50 years of the Castro's.


The 50 years of the Castros saw a Cuba that took care of its citizens. This in stark contrast to the whatever number of years the US had seriously exploiting the country and its people. Not to mention the half century of terrorism that the US government has directed against Cuba.

Why are you such a hypocrite, RJB? Your silly notions aren't at all real.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:43 am



Ineloquent star rises in GOP
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:45 am



Herman Cain for president?
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 12:24 pm
@JTT,
Your right. We took advantage of the Cubans but so did the communists. If we supported a freedom movement in Cuba, a peaceful one, it would be good for the majority of Cubans. Not the present form of corporate government control that exists in the U.S. however. This is what caused Cuba to go communist. Something our corporate masters in the U.S. would do well to remember.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 04:36 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
Uncle Daddy said that's not funny.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 06:56 pm
@RABEL222,
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We took advantage of the Cubans but so did the communists.


Rabel, where do you come up with this nonsense? The USSR didn't occupy Cuba for over a century and a half as the US did. They never occupied Cuba at all. In fact all they ever did was offer subsidies to Cuba. The US never does that with any country. If there isn't a material, or a strategic gain, which boils down to wealth, the US's purse strings stay shut.

Since Castro came to power, the US has been committing terrorist acts against Cuba. In fact, Castro wanted a democracy like the US, but the US, just as they did in Vietnam, drove these countries to seek protection where they could get it.

The US wanted to continue the colonial pillaging that they had been engaged in in Cuba and wanted to take over what the French had been engaged in in Vietnam.

[damn, there's those repeat words that the "rules" say are not needed or incorrect; the language sages haven't decided which it is yet.]

And still, Americans think that the US goes into these countries to help the citizenry. It's all been a monstrous lie. How that's possible over two centuries speaks to just how damn good the US propaganda/"education" system works.

Notice, Rabel, no one refutes these accusations because no one can.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 09:43 pm
@realjohnboy,
Astute observation you silly little git.
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