The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

I agree with you, RJB has a knack for politics and calming the waters with fact. I, for one would love to keep this going as a rel discussion It had been nice to actually discuss the GOP canidates and their stands (Because , as a progressive (socially) and a conservative fiscally, Im not keen on returning Obama as a "reward" to a job well done) However, the candidates on the GOP side have been ,to my eyes, spending their entire time shooting their collective foots.
As far as this thread, the waterboy had entered the fray with a silly childish patois that has evoked similar silly return fire (I admmit some culpability in this ,but he really doesnt help anything by his fourth grade intellect). If he could be invited to just back off the somplete childishness and actually discuss things, naybe the thread could be turned from a mutual neener neener fest to actual discussion again..
However, having said that, Im not keen to just let the boy go off unchallenged especially when he only posts screed that comes from predigested sources.

Just my views.

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Ill bet now ,on reflection, (and this goes for me), had Christie decided to jump in , wed see a clamor pf Dems looking to possibly throw their support to him.

as it stands, Romney is just another Obama, only more from the right field. Hes an unknown and is way too arbitrary and too flexible with his "deeply held convictions" . I dont like a real malleable president because the major executive weapon that the president flexes internally is INFLUENCE. I dont think Romney has shown that hes even got the ability to influence a majority of his own party.
Newt , cmon, nuff said

Santorum has been a sad case here in Pa. His career in politics had peaked ten years ago and hes been mostly repeating the "true conservative mantra" (However, Im not sure what that is all about ). Here in Pa, hes been stumping for the "401K" type Social Security and teaching Bible science in public school biology. (Things that make me gag)
Paul periodically leaves the entire solar system and visits his Mother SHip. He is marching to some drummer that is more like a Lyndon Larouche "light"

I dont like the idea that Obama immediately went to his health plan before he tried fixing the economy in a serious fashion. However, now that the economy seems to be setting a course and may come back in two years, I think that GOP should be supporting newer ideas how to cut that time down and focus on a rapid recovery strategy for the year 2113. (They still dont get it).The GOP, by saying. "OK we see that the economy is showing signs of life heres how WE can make it get off life support in 1 year after we take office".They havent done that and are still focusing on how dead the economy is. This is just like Bush insisting that the economy "Fundamentals were all healthy" and then handing that mantra off to McCain.

Ive just given you a strategy that should be picked up by GOP in order to win, becauise their present tack will only return Obama to office and I know that most thinking Dems dont want that as an auto- given . IN other words, the GOP has gotta EARN my vote and theyre not doing anything to do that yet.

If Spurt answers Ill just ignore him. If you or Rog, or Georgeob or Tico chime in as honorble conservatives then Id listen.

Formerman, wash the sand from your vag and stop whining about your miserable sex life.

I'd say farmerman's case was just proven.

You and formerman are peas in a pod

truce or not?

Set a good example for others to follow and look up to and you could actually earn a truce.

The three Republican presidential aspirants at this week's Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, didn’t take long Friday to give the audience what they wanted: attacks.

"It was a red-meat speech for the crowd at CPAC,” Patrick Stewart-Hester said of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s remarks to the conservative gathering. “The crowd loved it. I liked it.”

Gingrich unleashed a scathing line of attack on the Obama presidency and promised to work to undo most of the current president’s programs on his first day in office.

Rick Santorum, full of haymakers for President Obama and veiled swipes at Republican front-runner Mitt Romney, appeared to hit all the right notes for the Washington political gathering Friday morning.

“He was saying what needed to be said,” noted University of Georgia student Matthew Aldridge. “He talked about values of the American people. Of course, we need to get back to that.”

Aldridge, a Gingrich supporter, said that he would support any Republican candidate who won the nomination, a common comment here at the Wardman Park Marriott.

“We have to defeat Obama,” said Nancy Baumann, a new member of Team Santorum.

"(Santorum) said something that I have been saying to other conservatives for a while: he would be a great contrast to Barack Obama,” Baumann said. “I don’t see a lot of difference between Romney and Obama.”

Santorum’s speech stressed that contrast, noting that two of his opponents for the Republican nomination supported the so-called Wall Stree bank bailout. He added that one of his competitors enacted what he called the blueprint for the president’s health care plan.

“He’s smart. He knows the issues. He’s conservative. He’s always been conservative, so you don’t have to worry if he gets in the White House where he’s going to be on the issues,” said Terry Scanlon, who said he feels that Santorum has a real shot at the nomination after his surprising sweep of nominating contests in Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri on Tuesday.

Even so, despite the four standing ovations and plenty of applause breaks, at least one attendee wasn’t completely convinced.

“There’s just something about him that that I’m a little wary of,” Aldridge said.

Romney followed in the early afternoon with an address that was heavy on applause lines, mostly ignoring his competitors to aim his fire at the president. Two of Romney’s five standing ovations – the most of any candidate -- were attacks on the Obama presidency. But it was Romney’s trumpeting of his business-world success that brought the crowd to its feet for the most vigorous cheers during the former Massachusetts governor’s speech.

Despite a seemingly warm reception, communications professional and speech coach Bert Decker noted that Romney was relying on something the other two White House hopefuls did without. “Romney used a TelePrompTer and neither of the others did,” Decker said, “the teleprompter always takes energy away, so he was the weakest of the three. But he did well for himself given his limitation.”

Another attendee said the prompting didn’t bother her one bit. “This was the first time I’ve ever seen (Romney) live, and I thought his presentation live was much more appealing than watching him on television,” said Rebecca Finley, a retired teacher. Finley lamented the focus placed on what some call Romney’s stiffness on camera. “I feel bad for that because the presidential nominee is supposed to be American Idol now,” adding that she felt that a candidate’s decision-making process should be more important to voters than a TV appearance.

The only presidential candidate not in attendance, Ron Paul, had his son Sen. Rand Paul serve as a surrogate for the gathering on Thursday.

We’ll find out which candidate the crowd liked the best on Saturday, when CPAC straw poll balloting concludes.

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H2O says:



You're the one that's generally regarded as a troll and flames everyone, and whose posts regularly garner -5s and -6s or worse. That might be an indication of who should talk about earning a truce. Last time I'll ask. Truce or no?

You and your ilk reside in opposite land - snap out of it!

I'll take that as a no. Fine by me. We do have actual FACTS. You never seem to.

Romney is running on his resume and rarely is he able to verbalize an actual proposal of things going forward. Id love to hear about the GOP "owning a recovery strategy" and going with it with Romney (or whoever). They keep trying to stall the recovery thats underway. Im an investor and a business owner I dont want to see another 2 years of major conngressional gridlock on economics and Im annoyed at how Obama hasnt used his office to armtwist for the economy as he tried to do with his health care overhaul . If Obama would use the same bully pulpit for economic recovery as he did for health care, wed not even be looking sideways at a GOPer.

My votes still for sale and noone seems to recognize that most of the country is not made up of idealogues (with the exception of a small minority on both sides). So the name calling and H2O's childish rantings dont carry ANY weight with me except to draw a tsk tsk.

The two of you should go to the gym and pump each other.

Back on topic, conservatives will unite behind whoever the GOP nominee is because the #1 priority is preventing Obama from being
elected to a 2nd term. A task that gets easier every day with each bone head policy that comes from Obama and his administration.

then your not really doing a great job at it. The candidates are off on their own beating each other up. They are busy in some "wayback machine" of unworkeable policy and reality, and they are unable to congeal a campaugn thrust with anything to get the majority of voters excited. As I said, my votes for sale. You need to verbalize some truth and reality based plans for the next four years.

How "honorable" could a person be that denies the war criminal/terrorist actions of their own government, Farmer?

How honorable could a person be who describes these actions as a country's 'warts'? I think you need to invent a new adjective.

scuza me. Ill also ignore folks like JTT and Oralloy and Baldimo

Didn't you know that facts are Socialist? H2O man is a true red blooded American, (at least that's what he keeps telling himself), he only deals in delusion and fantasy.

so true

Well at the time we had a filibuster proof majority, we haven't had one since and it wasn't long. Left the links last week or so on the economy page.

Also that is when they passed the stimulus package that most economist say prevented our economy from getting worse and really did create some jobs though not enough, which is I guess they have called it since 2009 a sluggish recovery.

Farmer, you are the guy that said that he was willing to listen to the facts, that he was willing to consider those facts. The facts are there, Farmer, huge volumes of them and all you are doing is sticking your head in a huge pile of cowshit.

So is mine. A pint will buy it.

I expect fm requires a great deal more being such an avid consumer of the planet's scarce resources that he once performed a 40 mile round trip in a gas guzzler to get a pizza with the fridge and freezer fully stocked and close to hand containing a range of goodies which I won't list because I like to keep my posts as short as possible.

That's why his emotional tree-hugging nature is such a joke.