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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 04:10 pm



No bailout + No Obama = Successful Free Market Economy.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 04:10 pm
@spendius,
So what? The so-called "religious" in America is over 80%.

From Wiki.
Quote:
Religion in the United States is characterized by both a wide diversity in religious beliefs and practices, and by a high adherence level. According to recent surveys, 83 percent of Americans identify with a religious denomination, 40 percent state that they attend services nearly every week or more, and 58 percent say that they pray at least weekly.[1]
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 05:06 pm
CNN reports this afternoon that Romney met privately today in Washington with some 30 conservative leaders. This comes a day ahead of Romney (along with Gingrich and Santorum and Ron Paul's son) addressing the CPAC convention.
(CPAC = Conservative Political Action Committee).
It is going to be, I think, an important speech for him. It won't be good enough for him to give his standard stump speech bashing Obama (although he will, no doubt, bash Obama).
The CPAC people are going to expect him to detail where he stands on the social issues that have become more prominent with the events of the past week or two.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 05:18 pm
@realjohnboy,
I predict that Santorum will walk away with the CPAC crowd's hearts, even though they know he has a chance to live on as a candidate like a clam in a deep fryer.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 05:18 pm
@realjohnboy,
The 30 conservative leaders are leading Willard on to make him believe he has a chance to win at the national level; nevah hoppen. It doesn't matter what he says to the 30 leaders.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 05:29 pm
@farmerman,
There will be an informal straw poll of CPAC delegates on Saturday re their pick for the nomination.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 9 Feb, 2012 09:16 pm
@realjohnboy,
Willard is making a big bruhaha out of the requirement that insurance companies must provide birth control pills that's now being considered by Obama.

Many states already have such rules, and no Catholic Church has disappeared from the landscape (another fear tactic of the conservatives). As a matter of fact, many religious run hospitals are exempt from the ruling.

The conservatives are arguing the point that government shouldn't be in the business of controlling what churches do; they don't.

The irony of all this is the simple fact that the conservative meme of "less government intrusion into private lives" doesn't seem to apply when they wish to promote discrimination against gays and lesbians, or their push to promote the teaching of "creationism" in public schools.

Bunch of hypocrites.

spendius
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 08:44 am
@cicerone imposter,
You're the hypocrite. There is no discrimination against homosexuality. There are homosexuals in Parliament and in Congress. There are plenty in Media. In certain occupations it might be an advantage to be homosexual.

Objections to using the word "marriage" to signify a homosexual relationship is not discrimination. Forcing homosexuals to use the term would be discrimination. I bet there are plenty of homosexual relationships which would baulk at being called "married". There are plenty of other motives for this noisy faction's activities besides the emotional declarations of deep love which are easily acted for effect. And there's no chance of it admitting to any of them.

You are quite capable about being skeptical about politicians declaring that they seek to serve the community in selfless devotion to the public weal. Why does your skepticism retreat on this issue?

Which significant group is promoting the teaching of "creationism" in public schools? Insignificant groups are straws for you to grasp at. There might be only cultural tradition driving even insignificant groups.

Why do you wear baseball caps, stetsons and trilbies rather that keffiyehs, shemaghs and ghutras. Why do you wear trousers and suits rather than bishts? Why do you sit on chairs to dinner rather than on the floor? Why do you use cutlery instead of your fingers to stuff gobbets of nutrient into your masticating maw?

Cultural tradition. Far too complex and interdependent a subject to ever be raised in the circles you socialise in. Western dress and dining arrangements have been promoted in our tradition. They signify certain things. So does Creationism. The fact that you surround the word with inverted commas tells us you don't know what it means.

Abolishing Creationism is revolutionary and will have dramatic effects on every damn thing except chemical reactions and physical laws. In fact chemical reactions and the laws of physics will be the only seat of wisdom if Creationism is abolished. And you must seek to abolish Creationism to make the slightest sense. There is no half-way fudged position. The abolition of Creationism is a lock, stock and barrel job.

And I know you're not up for that. You would have no outlet to vent your spleen on if Creationism was abolished. How could you vent your spleen at chemical reactions and physical laws? You would have to sit fuming and unvented until the pressure worked of its own accord.

I feel sure that Mr Romney knows all that. And more. Why don't you simply recognise that he doesn't seek your vote. If he did he would have long since suspended his campaign.

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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 09:18 am


Obama is about to flip-flop on his irrational Catholic Church birth control mandate...
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 09:27 am
Back on topic,

Romney is falling farther behind Obama with every day of polling that is released. He's -10 to him today - in Rasmussen!

And PPP will release a poll later today showing the GOP nominee favorite to be... Rick Santorum.

(loving it)

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 09:33 am


Obama is a clueless fool - any of the GOP hopeful would
be better that the man-child in The White House today.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 09:41 am
@H2O MAN,


Anyone but the downgrade democrat we currently have in office

H2O MAN wrote:



Obama is about to flip-flop on his irrational Catholic Church birth control mandate...


Instead of forcing the Church to comply with his idiotic plan, Obama is now planing
to force health insurance companies to comply with his stupid free contraception plan.

What's the difference?
parados
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 09:47 am
@H2O MAN,
How outrageous!! Medical insurance that is actually supposed to cover medical stuff? Only a Marxist would think of something like that.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 09:48 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

How outrageous!!


Yes it is.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 09:50 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
And PPP will release a poll later today showing the GOP nominee favorite to be... Rick Santorum.


Does he still stand by his 2003 statement that laws should exist against polygamy, adultery, sodomy, and other actions "antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family" since they were harmful to society?

And an earlier one where he described contraception as "a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."
sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 09:52 am
@spendius,
Yep!

He's consistent, is Ricky.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 10:00 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
And PPP will release a poll later today showing the GOP nominee favorite to be... Rick Santorum.


Does he still stand by his 2003 statement that laws should exist against polygamy, adultery, sodomy, and other actions "antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family" since they were harmful to society?

And an earlier one where he described contraception as "a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."


Rick Santorum ... just go away
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 10:04 am
More about the LACK of enthusiasm on the Republican side:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/falling-into-the-enthusiasm-gap-at-cpac-2012.php

Excerpt:

Quote:
The Conservative Political Action Conference is one of the biggest and most anticipated events on the conservative calendar. Generally, the excitement in the air is palpable as conservatives gather to hear over and over again about how their ideas alone are the path to the nation’s salvation.

This year? Not so much.

The incredibly divisive Republican presidential primary has taken its toll on the mood at this year’s conference. Conversations with attendees tell the same story: none of the candidates has them all that stoked about the next 10 months.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 10:20 am
Makes sense...

Conservatives have not united behind a nominee that hasn't been chosen.
They are united in defeating Obama for the good of the country though.

Liberals are not really very united or enthusiastic about supporting Obama.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 10 Feb, 2012 12:32 pm
I do believe that Mr. Obama has buffaloed the GOP yet again with this contraception thing.

It is amazing how often the GOP is willing to walk right into something that they KNOW is an ambush. Time and time again! They just can't help themselves.

Cycloptichorn
 

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