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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 04:13 pm
@spendius,
True. It has, in the past, turned out to be an empty threat once convention time comes around. Florida is supposed to lose 1/2 of its 99 delegates but the Repubs' convention is going to be in FL.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 04:55 pm
@realjohnboy,
The question will be whether there are still 2 candidates in the race with delegate counts that matter. If not, then no one will care from the candidate race and it will just be about stripping delegates for other votes.

It could get ugly if Romney needs the other half of the Florida delegation or Gingrich needs half the SC delegation.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 04:56 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

The question will be whether there are still 2 candidates in the race with delegate counts that matter. If not, then no one will care from the candidate race and it will just be about stripping delegates for other votes.

It could get ugly if Romney needs the other half of the Florida delegation or Gingrich needs half the SC delegation.


Man, there's no way we would be that lucky.

Cycloptichorn
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High Seas
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 04:59 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

If I was an American I would be out trying to get Hilary nominated and then getting her elected.

You can do something we're not allowed to, buy and sell shares in our presidential candidates; here it's considered online betting and outlawed for some reason I never figured out. We can't even play poker online - so much for "land of the free"!

It's been a long slide in Obama's shares, with the only spike when a Navy team managed to kill Osama bin Laden - but his odds are still trading at better than 50%, mostly because the Republican field is divided among 4 names. If Gingrich makes it in Florida, the die is cast:
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474#

parados
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 05:04 pm
@High Seas,
When did they make the ruling it was illegal? The Iowa market is still running.
http://tippie.uiowa.edu/iem/markets/pres12.html
High Seas
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 05:06 pm
@parados,
You can't sell shares short there, but you can on the link I posted - and without short selling you can't claim to have a fully functioning market.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 05:08 pm
@parados,
The Iowa market is interesting.
Odds of GOP winning popular vote - 51%
Odds of GOP winning the election and the office - 43%
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 05:09 pm
@High Seas,
High Seas wrote:

You can't sell shares short there, but you can on the link I posted - and without short selling you can't claim to have a functioning market.


No uptick rule in political markets? Laughing

Cycloptichorn
jcboy
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 05:10 pm
Always making sense, love Alan Grayson!

parados
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 05:12 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
No uptick rule in regular markets these days. Hasn't been for years.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 05:13 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

No uptick rule in regular markets these days. Hasn't been for years.


I know - more's the pity

Cycloptichorn
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 05:59 pm
@High Seas,
Quote:
You can do something we're not allowed to, buy and sell shares in our presidential candidates; here it's considered online betting and outlawed for some reason I never figured out.


It's your puritan heritage HS. Puritans hate people having fun.

We can bet on anything that bookies care to tempt us with. It's a bit dangerous I know. Total points in Superbowl for example. Up or down from, guessing, 40. Bookies don't guess and they chalk it up.

"Unusual betting patterns" are not unknown.



reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 06:01 pm
DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 06:06 pm
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:

Alan Grayson!

I liked what he had to say, but what the hell is up with his eyebrow?

I kept tilting my head to make his eyebrows even, and then the rest of his face was tilted....
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 06:26 pm
@reasoning logic,
Did that video hurt some people's feelings?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 07:38 pm
@JPB,
I would have trouble voting for her in any case (though given alternatives ...) and certainly not in some kind of duel with Obama. A duel with Romney or Gingrich, she's got my vote. I don't entirely dislike her but don't find much there, there. But, 'there' is relative.

But wait, I just looked, the thread is about the Republicans.

Freakorama, stay for the cartoons.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 07:45 pm
@jcboy,
Thank you for that. Sigh with relief..

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 07:45 pm
Romney today claimed (twice) that he really pays closer to a 45-50% tax rate, as corporations are already taxed at 35%.

Can y'all believe this guy? I mean, does his campaign just not understand how such things come off?

Cycloptichorn
ossobuco
 
  1  
Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 07:51 pm
@DrewDad,
Re the eyebrows -

Ok, ok, you are kidding. Maybe being sardonic. But probably posting while young.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2012 08:48 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
Assets on tax forms missing on Romney financial disclosures

Mark Hosenball and Lynnley Browning
Reuters
10:56 a.m. CST, January 27, 2012

(Reuters) - A handful of financial holdings reported by U.S. Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney on his tax returns was not declared in earlier government financial disclosures, his campaign acknowledged on Thursday.

A comparison of Romney's 2010 tax filings with a set of disclosure forms he submitted last year to government election officials showed some holdings listed in the tax returns were not listed in the publicly available disclosure forms.

U.S. law requires presidential candidates to disclose financial holdings, including stocks, bonds, IRA (individual retirement account) assets, mutual funds and bank deposits in forms filed with the government.

The tax returns, submitted to the Internal Revenue Service, were made public on Tuesday in response to pressure for Romney to release more details about the vast fortune he made while he was a private equity financier at Bain Capital.

Holdings listed in the tax returns, but not listed in the ethics disclosures, included entities in offshore jurisdictions such as Ireland, the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and Luxembourg, a review of documents by Reuters showed.


This guy has no ethics, and people want him to become our president.

Ya gotta wonder.
 

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