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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
snood
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 09:54 am
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 09:56 am
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 09:58 am
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:02 am
It would be a point of great humor to me, after Ron Paul has been totally dissed by the media, if he won the nomination.
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:05 am
http://2.images.theweek.com/img/dir_0069/34807_cartoon_main/newt-vs-mitt-romney-et-al.jpg
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:11 am
http://2.images.theweek.com/img/dir_0069/34657_cartoon_main/mitts-play-on-words.jpg
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:32 am
@snood,
I find newt the philanderer just as offensive as herman the philanderer.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:45 am
@plainoldme,
But most don't pom. Black male potency is feared more than the white middle-class version I think. Legislation can only affect the outward forms.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:47 am
@spendius,
What I find odd about Mr Gingrich is his Simple Simon expression. In an apron everybody would buy pies off him.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:57 am
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
The way I see it is the more that we are able to work together the more that we can have as a society with less labor involved.
The more that we serve our own personal greed the less we have as a society and the harder we have to work for it. If you are a psychopath that does not feel empathy this would not apply to you.

Greed helps to fuel an economy. It rewards initiative, creates jobs, increases spending, and plows money back into an economy.
Greed is not necessarily bad if it simply equates with ambition and acquisitiveness, and if the gains are not obtained by fraud or deception.
Greed does not necessarily mean hoarding and not sharing or giving back. Some of the most successful are also the most philanthropic.

I may not be a particular fan of Milton Friedman, but I do believe in capitalism.

Capitalism does not preclude "working together" and it does not mean we will have less as a society, although some in that society will inevitably have less than others. But all of us are not equally endowed in abilities--any abilities--and it is also a matter of how society chooses to reward some abilities over others, rather than an inherent fault with a capitalistic economy, that can lead to the greatest disparities in wealth. We enable the wealth of people such as the Kardashians, who I find lacking in any talent other than a nose to make money for not doing very much of anything, and do not often enable the wealth of those artistically talented playwrights, fine artists, and poets among us who enrich our culture as a society. Our priorities seem screwed up, but I do not see that as the fault of capitalism as an economic system.

And, to try to return to the topic of this thread, I found Cain particularly lacking in empathy for those who can't pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. And I find that empathy generally lacking in the Republicans who oppose taxing the wealthiest more or closing tax loop-holes for the wealthy or corporations, because such things provide a necessary balance in a capitalistic economy and enable us to "work together" for the general welfare, and, at the moment, they are initiatives which would benefit our still ailing economy.


reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 11:25 am
@firefly,
You do realize that we can make slavery look really good too using logic with a limited frame of reference.

If you lived in Afghanistan your society might think that women should wear a veil and you might be able to give me all kinds of logical reasons why but do you think that just because people believe it to be true makes it true?

I have seen logical reasons why we could never stop being hunter gatherers.
You may not be interested in the logic but here it is just in case.

Very short cute cartoon.

part 1



part2




part3


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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 11:53 am
@reasoning logic,
Every Individual citizen owes it to his own HAPPINESS
that he elevate & magnify his assets as well as possible,
preferably: as soon as possible. Each citizen
shoud support, promote and advance Individualism,
personal liberty and hedonism.

Let each citizen and every citizen joyfully raise his voice and sing: "Let society be damned!"





David
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 11:57 am
@spendius,
For those who know what it is like at the bottom of the political pond it is self evident that those who rise to the surface are gifted with astute sharp practice, shrewd trading, lack of scruple and all the other virtues of a predatory disposition. Governing is a predatory occupation.

The industrial attitudes of honesty, diligence, peacefulness, goodwill, absence of self-seeking and such like delicacies are a hindrance to an individual trying to get on to this stage.

The obstacles in the way to the stage are such that the candidates must have been in hostile competition since they were in short pants. They cannot but be predatory types to the highest degree. They are selected as such by a process no less brutal for it being mainly hidden.

And they have to pretend that the industrial attitudes are admirable, despite them being worse than useless for their purposes, to get our votes and to help render us more tractable should they make it to the top.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 12:00 pm
@spendius,
It doesn't take all those skills to run for office today; the likes of Sarah Palin has shown that the electorates are deaf, dumb, and hapless.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 12:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I do not care what your psychiatrist has diagnosed you with, you are still someone in my book.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

It doesn't take all those skills to run for office today; the likes of Sarah Palin has shown that the electorates are deaf, dumb, and hapless.

And they enabled Sarah Palin to become a multi-millionaire in the blink of an eye, thanks to the benefits of celebrity, without much hard work on her part. Why bother to finish your first term as governor of Alaska, when you can cash in like that? Obviously, the woman has some talent--to pick good financial advisers, good script writers, and good ghost writers, and to dupe others into making her quite wealthy on the basis of her so-called "accomplishments" and "words of wisdom". She's got charisma.

spendius is wrong when he says, "Governing is a predatory occupation". Governing requires leadership abilility and salesmanship. Good salesman have charisma. John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan both had it in abundance,

Charisma in political candidates for the highest office is fine, as long as it's combined with other attributes, such as true leadership ability, intelligence, sound judgment, character, and appropriate experience, preferably in elective office. Unfortunately, the Republican candidates this year do not offer the voters both charisma and sound judgment and character and appropriate experience. Those with some charisma, like Cain, and even Newt, are hampered either by lack of experience (Cain), or troubling issues regarding character (both Cain and Newt), and the other leading contender, Romney, has the charismatic appeal of a dish rag. And Huntsman, who might offer the whole package, although possibly somewhat hampered with some voters by his Mormon faith, is largely ignored by everyone. Go figure.

But this week the economy certainly looked brighter. The stock market made great gains, the housing report was better, and the jobs numbers improved. If that sort of improvement continues, even at a slow rate, Obama's approval numbers will go up. And, particularly because the Republicans will lack a widely appealing alternative candidate, he will win a second term.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:15 pm
@firefly,
I agree with most of your opinions except on the housing market; over 30% of Californians and over 50% of Floridians are underwater on their mortgages. The banks are holding worthless paper to dumb up their profit picture, and banks are now charging high interest and fees (and paying nothing on savings) after they have been saved by our government (taxpayers). That's legal fraud perpetuated by our government.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:53 pm
Another Iowa poll out today (NBC/Marist) has Newt @ 26%; Mitt @18% and Paul @ 17%.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 02:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
electorates are deaf, dumb, and hapless.


They will be if they are characterised by honesty, diligence, peacefulness, goodwill, absence of self-seeking and such like delicacies and thus at the mercy of those gifted with astute sharp practice, shrewd trading, lack of scruple and all the other virtues of a predatory disposition to the attenuated degree required to get into the final.

Your choice of words betrays your utter confusion. You just made honesty, diligence, peacefulness, goodwill, absence of self-seeking and such like delicacies look like stupidity and disablement. Which I suppose is to be expected from a half-baked evolutionist.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 02:42 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
electorates are deaf, dumb, and hapless.
spendius wrote:
They will be if they are characterised by honesty, . . . absence of self-seeking [????]. . .
R u nuts???????
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