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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 07:38 pm
Here's some footage of michele bachmann explaining that gay people have the right to marry straight people:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12/01/michele-bachmann-says-a-gay-man-can-get-married-but-only-to-a-woman-video/
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 08:16 pm
@Ticomaya,
Do you have a study to show that Tico?

Here's the piece on Fox viewers knowing less about the news than people that watch no news at all.
http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 08:27 pm
@parados,
Too bad ican can't read this article.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 08:28 pm
@parados,
Did you actually read the study report ? In the first place there is no data provided to assess the statistical significance of poll results for individual questions. The only significant or consistent finding appears to be that watching the Sunday news shows involved the highest correlation to the correct answers in the poll. Although it wasn't headlined watchers of MSNBC also figured prominently among the wrong answers. Interestingly listeners to (largely conservativer) talk radio corelated well with right answers. That tidbit was buried in pace two of the report.

Do you take any of this **** seriuously?
parados
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 08:51 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:



Do you take any of this **** seriuously?

If you were referring to your earlier paragraph, then no, since it didn't address the issue we were discussing.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 08:57 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

If you were referring to your earlier paragraph, then no, since it didn't address the issue we were discussing.

On the contrary. You labelled it as "a piece on Fox viewers" when in fact it was far broader than that, and although the subject matter and sample size make it superficial in the extreme, the Fox (and MSNBC - tho you left them out) conclusion was no more substantial than the one on (conservative) talk radio - and they contradict one another.

Moreover there was no "inssue" under discussion between you and Tico. You were merely throwing **** at each other ... just as we are doing now.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 09:03 pm
Not that long ago, herman cain said to anyone listening that if you aren't rich, it is your fault. Now, he says that the woman who went public on their affair was only receiving financial help from him. Why didn't he tell her it was her fault that she wasn't rich?
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 09:05 pm
@georgeob1,
I merely pointed out that a piece exists on Fox viewers knowing less and was wondering if Tico's piece comparing liberals to ants existed. How nice of you to jump in and give us your in depth view of the validity of the piece I presented.

Hell, you read all the way to page 2. Wow! And then you want to accuse me of throwing ****?

You will note I never claimed the piece was valid or proved anything. But in your inimical style you wanted to claim I said things I didn't.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 09:14 pm
@parados,
You presented it as having meaning and substance that Tico's obviously flippant remark did not. It turns out you were dead wrong. No problem... I expect that.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 09:23 pm
@georgeob1,
When did I present it as having meaning?

I presented what POM had mentioned as existing which could be considered "substance" but it certainly wasn't a statement about my beliefs of the RESULTS of the study having any meaning or substance.

Frankly, I would love to see a study that compares any political philosophy with ants. I was hoping it existed. Maybe it does and Tico can post a link like I requested. I would be as bemused by that as I was about the ability of different news sources to inform their viewers.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 09:23 pm
@spendius,
If you want better opposition, you need a better demon. If you want Valley Forge, you better send the British.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 09:24 pm
@plainoldme,
Sounds incredibly awkward.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 10:20 pm
Does Newt get a free ride?

Quote:
No backlash for Gingrich policy shifts
By Jackie Kucinich, USA TODAY Updated 1h 49m ago

WASHINGTON – Former House speaker Newt Gingrich has criticized former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney for inconsistent comments on conservative issues, although Gingrich's record shows that he, too, has been inconsistent on many of the same issues.

As Gingrich has risen in the polls from an also-ran to a top contender, his contradictory positions on several issues have come under increased scrutiny. Those include his support for the individual health care mandate that he now describes as "unconstitutional;" his long relationship with housing lender Freddie Mac during a time when he was critical of politicians for propping up the government-sponsored enterprises and his view on the impact of climate change.
Unlike Romney, however, Gingrich has not seen a backlash with the base. Instead his stock among conservatives has recently experienced a resurgence. Several former aides say that's because of his long record in conservative circles and others to the passing fancy of the right wing of the Republican Party.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 1 Dec, 2011 10:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Does Newt get a free ride?


Prob, the repubs are desperate to find someone to rally around. A lot of stuff that normally does not get overlooked does now for anyone not named Romney.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:14 am
@hawkeye10,

Quote:
Does Newt get a free ride?
hawkeye10 wrote:
Prob, the repubs are desperate to find someone to rally around.
A lot of stuff that normally does not get overlooked does now for anyone not named Romney.
Romney is a wolf in sheep 's clothing, as his dad was.

In his heart n mind, he is not one of us.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:20 am

Newt is one of us, philosophically, but only to a moderate extent.
He knows the words, but not the music; or maybe he just does not care
much about the music of personal liberty, at the expense of government jurisdiction.





David
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 04:15 am
@OmSigDAVID,

Newt Gingrich: Serial Hypocrisy

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 04:51 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
Newt Gingrich: Serial Hypocrisy
I 'm a little concerned that Newt might lean slightly further left
than he 'd have the GOP believe, but not a lot.
I 'm not fully committed to him yet.

That Ron Paul video was not clear enuf
to be good evidence as the foundation for a judgment.





David
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 04:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Newt just as any other scumbag will lean to what ever side pays the most.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 05:04 am
@reasoning logic,
That is not a competent predictor
of how he 'd vote or run the Presidency.





David
 

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