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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:13 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Non-smokers talk about what they had for breakfast, what they had for dinner and what they had for supper, what they did on their holidays, and such like whereas smokers are more concerned with intellectual theories.


And their taste buds are so fucked, they don't know what they had for breakfast, what they had for dinner and what they had for supper.

Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:17 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

I was just trying to put the best spin on it.

I gather that Big O has stopped smoking. That's not on. The voters voted for a smoker. There's a big difference between a smoker and a non-smoker. Especially a fresh non-smoker.

The Quacks use nicotine to treat brain degeneration. It's a brain stimulant. The non-smokers will deny the difference but experience in pub conversations highlights it scientifically. Non-smokers talk about what they had for breakfast, what they had for dinner and what they had for supper, what they did on their holidays, and such like whereas smokers are more concerned with intellectual theories.


I appreciate that.

From what I can tell he hasn't quit smoking. He's in a pretty stressful job and I'd be amazed if he could quit while in office. So his lousy performance in office can't be blamed on nicotine withdrawal. I'm sure there is no shortage of hard hearted bastards who would happily keep him supplied.

I would urge him to quit if no other reason then he must smell like an ashtray whenever he meets foreign dignitaries. Not a proper representation.

Bob Schieffer (CBS News Anchor), to my knowledge, has never scolded the president for his smoking but he, apparently saw fit to scold Cain for the recent commerical in which his dodgy looking chief of staff puffs on a butt.

Schieffer was offended because he's a cancer survivor...so is Cain.

Schieffer's Scold
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:18 pm
@izzythepush,
Does that mean Zombie Obama would not appreciate the taste of a human leg?
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:19 pm
@Ceili,
Agreed --- to some extent
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:26 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I don't think any zombie appreciates anything, they just consume, like a virus.
djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:26 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
I would urge him to quit if no other reason then he must smell like an ashtray whenever he meets foreign dignitaries.


yeah, but most of them probably smell like foreign dignitaries, so it equals out
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:29 pm
@djjd62,
Good point

Especially the curry and garlic eaters.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:32 pm
@izzythepush,
I don't know about that.

The zombie eating the intestines of the young couple that buy it in Night of The Living Dead has a mighty satisfied look on her ravaged face.

I doubt she was a smoker.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:33 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Who goes into a restaurant and orders curry and garlic?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:35 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
In the 1960's? Surely everyone was a smoker back then.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 12:38 pm
@izzythepush,
Actually I meant curry eaters and garlic eaters, but there are dishes that include both.

Garlic Curry with Capatis
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 04:04 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Schieffer was offended because he's a cancer survivor...so is Cain.


Schieffer was offended because he likes being offended. Is what Mr Block did illegal or something? What's it got to do with Schieffer anyway. There's millions of survivors of something or other. Like war for instance. Has Schieffer objected to war movies? The indignant little twerp. Has everybody to dance to his tune because he's a cancer survivor? Do famine survivors get to scold cookery programmes? No wonder we're all going broke with gumps like Schieffer getting his sort of wages.

I forgot to mention earlier that the vitaman E supplements that had been found to cause increased risk of cancer in smokers had been recommended by scientists.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 04:11 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
I forgot to mention earlier that the vitaman E supplements that had been found to cause increased risk of cancer in smokers had been recommended by scientists.
You dont want to get started on the subject of nutrition and supplement advise that has been given over the years but which has either been proven wrong or never proven to be correct. It would keep one busy for a verrrrry long time. I dont take any such claims seriously until it has been consistent for at least 20 years.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 04:18 pm
Perry indicated last week that he may not participate in all of the upcoming debates. He was criticized for that and backed down.
Gird your loins.
It appears that there will be some 5 republican debates in November.
What can they find to talk about that is new?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 04:21 pm
@realjohnboy,
I would rather see debates that entirely focus on a SINGLE topic, than many different topics. Have a debate that is only about the domestic economy and the questions all revolve around different aspects of that.

It would quickly show that some candidates simply do not have a command of the complexities of many issues.

Cycloptichorn
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 05:31 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Agreed

Give them each at least 5 minutes to answer a question.

I don't know why I'm asking you this, but have you seen the Center Seat segments on the FOX News with Brett Bair? One candidate sits with Bair and three panel members for the night and answers questions for about 20 minutes.

Michelle Bachman did surprisingly well
Ron Paul did not

A much more informative format.

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 05:39 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Agreed

Give them each at least 5 minutes to answer a question.

I don't know why I'm asking you this, but have you seen the Center Seat segments on the FOX News with Brett Bair? One candidate sits with Bair and three panel members for the night and answers questions for about 20 minutes.

Michelle Bachman did surprisingly well
Ron Paul did not

A much more informative format.


I have seen that. Though it might surprise you, I spend far more time reading right-wing blogs and watching Fox News than I do left-wing blogs, or watching any of the other news channels.

Why? Because I don't need to be convinced by my own side! I already am in agreement with 90% of what I see in the lefty media. I'm sold. On the other hand, it's often useful to watch and read what the other side is in agreement about, because:

- it lets you know what the upcoming conversational gambits are going to be
- it clues you in to the thinking that drives them
- it's just plain fun to watch people twist themselves in knots.

Re: that show,

I saw Paul on that show but not Bachmann. I'm not surprised she did good, though; the lady is crazy, but not stupid. And she's clearly been highly polished over the last few years. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see her as the eventual VP candidate for your nominee.

Cycloptichorn
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spendius
 
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Reply Tue 1 Nov, 2011 05:57 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
That post Cyclo shows that you simply don't have a command of what you're talking about. The whole point of a SINGLE topic is that it doesn't have different aspects.

With the referendum they are going for a SINGLE topic in Greece. That's if the generals don't step in to restore order first.

I'm struggling to understand your point. Would you be kind enough to develop it in more detail?
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2011 08:47 am
@Ticomaya,
Quote:
Herman Cain's Chief of Staff Mark Block ... be sure to watch the dramatic moment at 0:41:


It's not just "at 0:41. After that he blows smoke right in your face. There's contempt in that gesture on top of the daring of puffing on a cig in a campaign ad. One wouldn't seriously expect Mr Block to be unaware of the reactions he was going to provoke.

From whence such confidence we would do well to ask. Here is one possible answer.

It is taken from Mailer's essay on narcissism in Genius and Lust: a book about Henry Miller.

Quote:
So it is possible that narcissism is a true disease, a biological displacement of the impulse to develop which could bear the same relation to love that onanism bears to copulation, or cancer to the natural growth of tissue. As we come a little nearer to the recognition that the base beneath all disease, the ultimate disease, is insanity or cancer, and other illnesses may even be bulwarks against some irreversible revolt of the flesh or the mind once they have determined to grow in ways and into places flesh and mind have never grown before, so to the narcissist, there is always the unconscious terror that isolation, if unrelieved, must end in one arm or the other of the ultimate disease.


It's a position taken by Freud, by Wilhelm Reich and by Bob Dylan. The notion of the "plague".

That cancer is largely of psychological origin. It's a dynamite subject and Media is never going to cover it because Media attracts narcissists like a jam-pot attracts wasps, as does politics, and promotes narcissism both to justify itself and to sell goods. So obviously other causes of disease are highlighted by Media which, on this theory, is the greatest cause of disease ever seen on the face of the earth.

Hence Schieffer's sensitivity.

Quote:
America's never seen a candidate like Herman Cain.


Maybe that is no small claim. Maybe it is not a cliche at all as most people will probably see it. It's a marker.

My extract hardly does justice to Mailer's essay so I recommend it to your reverences and worships.

BTW--narcissism is not the love of self but rather the obsession with self. A narcissist might just as easily smash the mirror as kiss it.


spendius
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2011 08:55 am
@spendius,
And one can hardly imagine the medical profession having anything to do with such a theory.
 

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