The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

Reminds me of 1980 when I strongly supported John Anderson.

I'm sure it was part of the deal.

It depends upon what you consider "large" sums of money.

$10,000 is a five figure amount and is in keeping with settling a bogus claim to avoid ten times that in legal costs.

If insurance was involved, it's more than possible that the claims could have been settled without Cain's authority.

I agree that it doesn't look good and unfortunately that's all that will count in the final analysis, but there's a decent chance that there was nothing to these claims.

Unfortunately we can't prove it but I would bet my left arm that you would be telling us what a schmuck he was if he was the GOP front runner.

Just like McCain was the only decent Republican...until he ran against Obama.

Huntsman is a hell of a lot more conservative than John Anderson was.

Actually, imo, McCain was a decent Republican until he became an indecent one. I'm not sure that what I thought was pure pandering was solely that, but his focus on the far right during the 2008 election and his willingness to bring a Sarah Palin onto the ticket nauseated me.

I supported and voted for Anderson, too, and i was really pissed that he didn't poll even near the amount of support the polls were showing just before the election. He was left with a huge debt to pay for his campaign, which he would have recuped in Federal matching funds if everyone who was telling the polsters they supported him had actually voted for him.

Pappy Bush called Ray-gun's "economic" plan voodoo economics, but he was quick to jump on board when they offered him the VP slot. It was voodoo economics, and Anderson was the only one who was telling people they needed to raise taxes and cut spending. That was his overall problem--a dedication to telling the unpalatable truth.

True. But, as a relative "moderate" in the more conservative of the two parties, he was my guy then. I'm not sure that, relatively speaking, Huntsman is any further away from the remainder of the field today than Anderson was in 1980.

McCain was still the only decent Republican - for all his faults, he was miles ahead of the rest of that lame pack. Which, of course, is why your group didn't like him and didn't really come out to support him.

Cycloptichorn

Thanks for remaining one of the few things that are consistent in my humble time at A2K - a constant asshole. Why don't you just answer the frikkin question I asked you, or react to the answer to your question, instead of proving again what is so abundantly obvious about you. At least that way we wouldn't get bogged down in personal stuff - always time for that.

Re John Anderson

"He's the smartest guy in Congress, but he insists on voting his conscience instead of party." - Gerald Ford

My kind of guy!

How far from the field did you think Anderson was?

Huntsman is not far from the current field at all.

There's something arrogant and snarky about him that I don't like but I agree with most of his positions and proposed policies. I'll vote for him in a nanosecond if he's the nominee.

Unfortunately, for him, he's tainted by having served under Obama. I think this is a ridiculous reason not to support him but there are many people who determine their vote on ridiculous reasons.

While it's never discussed, like Romney he's a mormon and there are still people who, ridiculously, are unsettled by mormons. Blaming him for serving under Obama enables someone to reject him for his faith without looking like a bigot...still an idiot, but not a bigot.

I've said it before, he really turned me off with his "call me crazy" tweet. It's certainly not that he rationally believes in evolution or even that he chooses to accept what I consider to be highly biased climate change orthodoxy, it was the arrogant and snarky way he announced it. When you are running for the GOP nomination for president, there is nothing to be gained by implicitly calling people who don't believe in evolution or climate change orthodoxy crazy. The folks who fit that bill get that crap all of the time from liberals and they don't want it from someone who is seeking their vote.

I think it was a huge mistake on his part, because while it went a long way towards defining him as the Democrat's favorite Republican, that's a highly dubious honor when it comes to the Republican base.

The best thing Democrats who like him could do for him would be to damn him to right-wing hell.

And before anyone goes off on how this demonstrates the shallow nature of Republican voters, Democrats would feel the same way about a Democratic candidate that Republicans in general liked.

He's not a very likeable guy either so I don't think he's going to get himself a second chance to self-define.

i was firmly behind Rick Wakeman in 1980

JPB wrote,

He changed when he ran in 2008; he became too wishy-washy in his positions when he thought it would lose or win votes. I would have voted for the McCain we had in 2000; he was consistent back then.

Herman Cain just finished talking at the National Press Club. He said;
"Amazing Grace" will always be my song of praise. For it was grace that brought me here. I"ll never know why Jesus came to love me so. He looked beyond my faults..."

Meditate on that for a while John. You might learn something you never knew before.

So d'you think he's a fan of Wings, or is it the sound of the bagpipes he likes?

This is a message of humility. One would think that the despisers of upper class arrogance would appreciate it.

Is this the worst campaign ad ever for a serious presidential candidate (Cain)? I mean ... really?

If I didn't know better, I'd think this was a joke.

Herman Cain's Chief of Staff Mark Block ... be sure to watch the dramatic moment at 0:41:

It should clarified that Politico is a (very?) liberal news outlet. I heard an interview on NPR with the reporter who wrote about the Cain issue that broke over the weekend. He claims that he cross checked all of the information about Cain and a couple of employees at the National Restaurant Association but he is unwilling to name any of his sources. Supposedly that includes other employees of the NRA and some board members who were privy to the alleged harassment and the settlement.
That troubles me and leaves Cain twisting in the wind.
My understanding is that there is further digging going on into who the sources might be. There seems to be a rumor de jour going around that the Perry campaign may be involved.
The election is almost exactly one year away.

They're doing to Cain what happened to McCain.