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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2011 08:15 pm
@hawkeye10,
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it does not matter if I have expertise in the field or not....when I search the web and can not find anyone who makes the claims you do it calls your claim into doubt. Project Runway is a hot show,fashion design is in, if your claim was true I think people would be talking about it.


It's a tailoring staple that went out of fashion in the 60s when sharkskin and skinny ties came in. His handlers seemed to see a need for it. It's not controversial, so why would anyone talk about it? Now, back in junior high, there would be talk about some girl's padded bra but there is hardly a reason to talk about his chest piece unless you are a woman sick of his acting, sick of the Republicans pushing what they think are lookers and sick of phoniness.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2011 08:16 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Did you study tailoring at Harvard?


No, I took tailoring when my kids were small. I did Celtic Languages and Literatures at Harvard.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2011 08:18 pm
@georgeob1,
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Has he been in your bra?


I heard he was inside yours.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2011 08:21 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Looking at those repuglicans with their angelic (cough) faces reminds me of

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjNqlhPFc4Y

Firesign Theatre that is
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2011 08:25 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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figured Cain would do well, but more likely 4th and certainly no better than 3rd.


Why? Because he's as crazy as bachmann?
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2011 08:36 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

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figured Cain would do well, but more likely 4th and certainly no better than 3rd.


Why? Because he's as crazy as bachmann?


I would say he probably is about as crazy as Bachmann, which is to say not crazy at all, but no, I figured he would do well because his campaign targeted the straw poll, he polls well in FL, and he's had some good debate performances.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2011 09:05 pm
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:

I do think it's a pretty solid indictment of Perry, and secondarily a pretty solid "eh" re: Romney. (Perry tried hard to win there, Romney skipped it.) In Florida, anyway. But Florida is supposed to be big in deciding the nominee.


Substitute "mehh" for "eh" and I agree.

Florida should have some 99 delegates at the GOP convention which is the third highest total behind California (169) and New York (149), so you can see why it is said FL will have influence in deciding who the nominee is.

In addition it will hold the 5th of the 2012 GOP primaries sometime in late January or early February. It's by far the largest state of the first 5, and unless the FL winner has already run away with the first 4 primaries, taking FL should be a big boost.

The FL Straw Poll has for some time been considered a bellwether for the GOP presidential nomination, but it's hard to know where pure odds begin and demographics end. The media loves to report on bellwethers.

There are seven states considered bellwethers for the presidential election and Florida is one of them. In addition to the seven states, Guam is also seen as a bellwether as it has never been wrong.!

I can understand why someone might see states like Florida, Missouri and Ohio representing microcosms of the voting population, but not so much New Mexico or Delaware.

It's never good to focus resources on a state and lose, and/or just nip your closest competitor who took a pass, but that's what happened to Perry.

I suppose his contraversial remarks on social security, which were long on hype and short on real contraversy, might have hurt him in Fl, but I think he's just proving to be a flash in the pan. As soon as I announce he's finished, though, he'll probably come roaring back.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 07:51 am
@JTT,
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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Pornographic magazine publisher Larry Flynt offered $1 million on Thursday to anyone with proof of "an illicit sexual liaison" involving leading Republican presidential candidate and Texas Governor Rick Perry.


I think that Mr Perry should challenge Flynt to a duel.
sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 07:54 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Not just delegates but where Florida is in the primary process.

Momentum is big, and at some point people want to vote for the winner and against the loser, and if Romney doesn't win in Florida that can make him look loserish at a crucial junction.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 08:06 am


Herman Cain
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 08:16 am



9-9-9 Plan
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 08:52 am
@spendius,
I agree - in wheelchairs
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 09:11 am
@spendius,
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I think that Mr Perry should challenge Flynt to a duel.


Dud Perry doesn't need any more bad publicity. He can generate it all by his own little lonesome.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 11:17 am


Cain’s up, Christie’s a question mark, the GOP field still anyone’s game
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 02:33 pm
Two related stories today-
First, county leaders in SC are upset because the state's election commission is demanding that the counties must shoulder a higher share of the cost for running the upcoming Republican party primary (and, presumably, future primary contests for either party).
The state passed a law prior to 2008 requiring SC (state or locally, to pay for primaries but it is unclear whether that law applies to 2012). The state's Supreme Court will have to decide that issue along with the related issue as to whether the government should pay for primary race administration at all.
NPR this morning reported on how officials around the country are facing budget cuts for running elections (20% was mentioned). This could lead to reductions in the numbers of precincts and longer lines at the remaining voting machines.
Some view that prospect as leading to disenfranchisement of voters.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 02:40 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Some view that prospect as leading to disenfranchisement of voters.


A happy coincidence or the primary intent?
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 02:41 pm
General note, I'm seeing increasing Christie chatter as Perry's goose is looking fairly cooked. It's getting very late in the game, I think it's unlikely that he'd jump in. But still possible.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 02:51 pm
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:

General note, I'm seeing increasing Christie chatter as Perry's goose is looking fairly cooked. It's getting very late in the game, I think it's unlikely that he'd jump in. But still possible.


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Why he shouldn’t

1. Late start. Perry has spent nearly three decades in elected office and sometimes looks like a rookie on the campaign trail — or, more accurately, the debate stage. Christie had never held elected office before winning the governorship in 2009 and, although he has done a remarkable job of building his national reputation, has never been tested under the sort of spotlight that would shine on him if he ran. The struggles of Perry, former senator Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) in 2008 and retired Gen. Wesley Clark in 2004 make clear that running for president requires skill that even most longtime politicians don’t possess.

2. Money. Yes, Christie could put together an impressive first month — or even first quarter — of fundraising. But the true giants of cash collection are those with staying power, the candidates who are able to get beyond the first $10 million (or so) and into the range of $35 million to $50 million. It’s not clear that Christie has that second gear or whether there are enough uncommitted big bundlers — the people who can donate and get hundreds of their friends to do the same — left for him to even try.

3. Heart. Listen closely to Christie’s denials over the past months — and there have been many — and the common strain is that his heart isn’t in a presidential race. (He joked at Rider that the only person who would be waking up with him at 5:30 a.m. on a 15-below-zero day in Des Moines would be his wife, not all the people asking him to run.) Winning a presidential primary is, at root, a grind — and if a candidate isn’t 100 percent on board, it simply won’t work. Christie seems to understand what it takes to be president (or at least his party’s nominee) and decided he doesn’t have it right now. He should listen to his heart and stay out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/why-chris-christie-should--and-shouldnt--run-for-president/2011/09/25/gIQAYvNHxK_story.html?hpid=z4

No way in hell that an fat man with a possible bad heart wins in 2012, we are not going to take the chance. 50 years ago maybe....

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The 48-year-old governor was driven to Somerset Medical Center by his state police security detail out of an "abundance of caution," said Christie spokesman, Michael Drewniak. Christie suffers from asthma and all indications are the governor will be OK, Drewniak said.

Maria Comella, Christie's deputy chief of staff, told The Associated Press that Christie is "fine and in charge." Close friend and adviser Bill Palatucci said Christie was "getting tests and working from the hospital

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/28/politics/main20084860.shtml
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 03:03 pm
@realjohnboy,
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Some view that prospect as leading to disenfranchisement of voters.


It might be worth giving it a go. Most people seem pretty pissed at the current set-up.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 03:54 pm
@spendius,
Pissed off in what way?
 

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