IF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WERE HELD TODAY WOULD OBAMA SWEEP IT ?

@Butrflynet,

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He also needs to get his OFA organization back out from under the umbrella of the Democratic party and can Tim Kaine. When he merged it with the party machinery, it lost a lot of oomph.

Obama was always a democrat in the democratic party. Independents (Green, Libertarian..) just liked him 2008 and then wondered why he acted like a democrat when he got elected.

But for the most part I agree about him loosing his oomph when he chose people like Podesta and Emanuel.

Anyway regarding the spat of bill passing; nothing last, but I think the tea party peaked too early and is starting to grow stale before many of them even reach office in Jan.

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@revelette,

He was a democrat, but his campaign organization and strategy, OFA, was not under the umbrella of the Democratic machinery. That was the genius part of the strategy. They were forced to create a grassroots organization independent of the DNC because Hillary had most of the DNC operatives locked in. They did that by using social media, the OFA website and the grassroot organizing tools on the OFA website. The neighbor-to-neighbor and online-calling tools and all the rest of the organizing mechanics we'd spent two years building and filling with data collecting efforts were then transferred over to the DNC once he was elected president and a new organization called Organizing for America was created to conform with all the restrictions and limitations that come with being in the White House.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee

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Shortly after his inauguration, Barack Obama transferred his Obama For America organization to the DNC, along with its 13 million person email list, as restrictions prevented him from taking it with him to the White House.[2] Renamed Organizing For America, the organization also controls the BarackObama.com domain and website and is expected to work closely with Obama's New Media Director Macon Phillips, who will manage the WhiteHouse.gov – formerly Change.gov – website, though Phillips' duties technically fall under the White House umbrella, not the DNC.[3]

Details here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/26/us/politics/26grassroots.html?_r=1&hp

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@Butrflynet,

Now that you mention it, it brings back how Obama was able to use the internet successfully during his campaign. He not only won the college crowd, but was able to raise lot'sa money with it.

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@cicerone imposter,

Yes, Obama conned the college crown and stole lot'sa their parents money...
they need to get used to him stealing lot'sa their money for two more years anyway.

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@H2O MAN,

You don't know the meaning of "voluntary" do you? Nobody put a gun to their heads like how conservatives lie about death panels and higher taxes by Obama.

Those college kids are a lot smarter than you ever were; you belong to the No Party.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You don't know the meaning of "voluntary" do you? Nobody put a gun to their heads like how conservatives lie about death panels and higher taxes by Obama.

Those college kids are a lot smarter than you ever were; you belong to the No Party.

A brief note on liberal indoctrination on our nation's college campuses.

The Chairman of political science department at Duke University, Robert Munger, recently said that another Duke department head told the Duke faculty that conservative students needed to be confronted with their hypocrisies but liberal students did not because they already understood the world. No members of the faculty protested that suggestion. 'Nuff said.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Nobody put a gun to their heads

Actually, the GOP, which owns Chester County to our South, had prevented Lincoln University kids from voting by making the procedure so complex and by naming the polling place as an old PO building . The kids were waiting 8 and 9 hours to vote because the County Commissioners changed some election rules.

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@farmerman,

And then there was the college kids in Texas who marched 8 miles on the freeway to a designated voting location, the closest one to their campus.

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If they weren't smart enough to check out and confirm the voting locations before election day... it's there own fault.

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@H2O MAN,

the fact that the courts found in favor of the students showed that the GOP commissioners (the clerk of elections specifically) was guilty of violating the kids civil rights.
The GOP is always in the middle of some cynical disenfranchisement activity here and in Chester County. In Lancaster County they get away with it because there isnt as fast growing a suburban DEMOCRATIC movement as in the suburban counties around Philly.

Remember, Pennsylvania has been descirbed as "The cities of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, separated by ALABAMA"

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@farmerman,

Liberals are always quick to deflect personal responsibilities and use the liberal courts to blame others for their own bad decisions.

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@H2O MAN,

Never mind the college kids - on the day Obama made a call to support a convicted dog torturer and murderer he lost the PETA vote Smile

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@High Seas,

yeh but he got 70% of Eagles fans.

Never Mind the flagrant disregard of civil rights? Is that what you mean?

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@H2O MAN,

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Liberals are always quick to deflect personal responsibilities and use the liberal courts to blame others for their own bad decisions

So, when you or your small group of insane teabaggers are denied their civil rights and prevented from voting you would not seek any relief afforded you by law?
If your answer is yes, then you are even more of an idiot than I had expressed earlier.

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@farmerman,

You realize your word of choice to identify the T.E.A. party movement destroys any credibility you may have had.

Only ignorant idiots use that word.

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@High Seas,

and he also sealed the teams fate... they got their asses kicked Laughing

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@H2O MAN,

protest as you wish, you shall always be the T.E.A.Baggers.(I am assuming that the etymology of the phrase did not escape you?)

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@farmerman,

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preferably Rand Paul, M.D..

REmember, my vote cancels your vote

Not necessarily - there's the Electoral College to be taken into account. And the 2010 Census as you know changed the electors for several states.

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@farmerman,

you shall always be an ignorant and insignificant liberaltard.

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@H2O MAN,

Farmerman is a friend of mine, but that's irrelevant: our issue is to ensure Obama leaves town in January 2013. He's as canny a politician as any I've come across, and wishing him to leave town tarred and feathered does carry the implicit subtext that by then he'll have caused even more massive damage to the US than he already has; not a wish any of us here yourself included want to contemplate. How to best accomplish his 2012 exit should be our focus, not trading insults with those who disagree with our politics. If the election were held today Sarah Palin would win in a landslide.

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