The Future President, Donald Trump

@hawkeye10,

My post was not rude to you . You were rude to Builder by saying he was irrelevant. Bush was a bloody idiot, and Trump will be just as bad.

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@Lash,

How is that divisive politics? What group does it play against another?

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@hawkeye10,

Truth? You mean like the truth that Trump's proposals violate the US Constitution and can't be implemented if he is elected? That kind of truth?

Or the truth that you like fascists and worship them?

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David Cameron regards comments made by US presidential hopeful Donald Trump as "divisive, unhelpful and quite simply wrong", Downing Street has said.

Mr Trump called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States following a mass shooting in San Bernadino.

A Muslim couple, believed to have been radicalised, killed 14 people at a health centre.

The prime minister's official spokeswoman said Mr Cameron "completely disagrees with Donald Trump".

British prime ministers normally avoid commenting on contenders in the US presidential race.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35037553

Now I know Hawkeye will dismiss this as coming from an insignificant little island, but the fact is this sort of thing is not done. It's even more rare for a Conservative prime minister to criticise a Republican presidential candidate, imagine Thatcher having a pop at Reagan. What this means is that a Trump presidency will have little, if any, support in Europe.

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@parados,

It imprisons black Americans who begin to see their lot in American life as miserable - and feeds enmity between them and white America. Rightly so. Thanks, Clintons, for perpetuating racial strife in the US...and laughing all the way to the bank.

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@Lash,

Clinton didn't create the justice system. He didn't write state laws which is where the majority of people are imprisoned. He certainly didn't imprison blacks to get them to vote for him because they would hate white America.

You don't seem to know what divisive politics is.

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Republican leaders want to eject Trump from the party, but it’s not clear they can without tearing the GOP apart. This doesn’t just leave Trump with the advantage; it makes him the key figure in the Republican primary. Trump is driving the narrative of the race and the approach of the candidates. Trump is bringing radical ideas to the mainstream of public opinion. Trump is inspiring, encouraging, and empowering the far right in American politics. Trump is seeding the ground for a future movement, centered on his aggressive ultranationalism.

Trump isn’t locked in to the Republican Party; the Republican Party—and the rest of us—are locked in with him.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/12/why_the_gop_is_captive_to_donald_trump_s_supporters.html

THat is the bitch of it when the people still have the vote, and the people cant be controlled. Trump is speaking for for people who have been disrespected and deprived of a voice for a very long time, and now that they think they finally have a champion they will figuratively die for him....they will go anywhere with him, I expect.We have not seen this recently but we have seen this before. People need to get their head out of their ass and stop acting all shocked and appalled. The ground was laid over a lot of years by way of a lot of bad choices.

We are to blame for the rise of Donald Trump.

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@hawkeye10,

Finally, you can pull that brown shirt and jack boots out of your closet hawk. You must feel so empowered.

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@parados,

He created the system that over-incarcerates blacks. Read the links if you're interested in how and why he did it.

If you want to really understand the Clintons, look into it.

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@Lash,

WTF? You mean blacks weren't being over-incarcerated before the 90's? What a strange world you live in, Lash.

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After the passage of Reagan's Anti-Drug Abuse Act in 1986, incarceration for non-violent offenses dramatically increased. The Act imposed the same five-year mandatory sentence on users of crack as on those possessing 100 times as much powder cocaine.[29][31] This had a disproportionate effect on low-level street dealers and users of crack, who were more commonly poor blacks, Latinos, the young, and women.[32]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate

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@parados,

parados wrote:

Finally, you can pull that brown shirt and jack boots out of your closet hawk. You must feel so empowered.

NSA
IRAQ
Citizens United
Drug and credit testing required to get a job
The cops confiscating money and property without court oversight and with the citizen needing to prove his innocence before it is returned
The state killing innocent people (capital punishment)
The cops unloading over 50 bullets into a car
Hate crime law
Laws written so vague that the the state can twist them how ever they want
charge shopping by prosecutors
Charging people with 40+ crimes for one alleged bad act
Manhattan District Attorney has a $800+ million slush fund
Laws written by the industry they are supposed to regulate and passed without any of those voting (or the staffs) having read it
Lawmakers spend the majority of their time with their hand out asking for money and get very little work done, and most of the work they do do is crap
Secret courts
Secret laws
A tax code that runs 74,608 pages designed to provide kickbacks to those who have corrupted Washington
$16+ trillion dollar federal government debt
Super expensive medical system that provides poor results
Super expensive education system that provides poor results
Universities that long ago stop caring about education that are now babysitting the students and are hostile to the free exchange of un approved by the elite ideas
uncontrolled borders
The president decides which laws he cares about and ignores the rest
Congress consistently can not pass budgets
oppressive wealth disparity
Marissa Mayer collected $42 million last year for failing at her job
Government that advertises a University sexual assualt hoax and uses this hoax to do an end run around the Constitution at the the same time that it turns a blind eye to long running and well know sexual abuse of the prisoners it is responsible for
We constantly fail to win the wars we are in
the B-52 is still flying because the three bombers that were supposed to replace them were crap...super expensive crap
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@hawkeye10,

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The president decides which laws he cares about and ignores the rest

You are objecting to this when you are all for a guy that has stated in no uncertain terms he is going to ignore the US Constitution?

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@hawkeye10,

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Marissa Mayer collected $42 million last year for failing at her job

When Marissa Mayer became CEO of Yahoo it's stock price was below $16. It closed today above $34. That would be doubling of the stock price in 3 years. If only every other CEO could fail like that I could have retired 15 years ago.

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@parados,

Not nearly as much as under Clintonian anti-black policies.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/28/bill-clinton-calls-for-end-mass-incarceration

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@parados,

parados wrote:

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Marissa Mayer collected $42 million last year for failing at her job

When Marissa Mayer became CEO of Yahoo it's stock price was below $16. It closed today above $34. That would be doubling of the stock price in 3 years. If only every other CEO could fail like that I could have retired 15 years ago.

And Sears Corp has a stock price of $20 even though the company is being killed off by its majority owner. $20 represents the liquidation price of Sears Corp. Marissa Mayers was given the directive to make the company into something both profitable and sustainable. She has completely failed. The Yahoo price is 100% the value of its minority share in a Chinese internet company. Everything else they have is worth a combined total of $0.

But the point is that those who are whining about Trump, about how much he sucks, need to understand that when those running things fail to do their jobs they will be replaced, and they will be replaced with whomever we can find who we think might be able to right the ship. Of course the people who have failed are going to squawk, but we already know about the quality of their judgment. Because it can only be either their judgment or their character that is the problem, and we will judge them with all due charity.

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@hawkeye10,

Sears has gone from a stock price of $49 to $19 during the same time Yahoo has gone from $16 to $34. Your idea of failure seems a little odd.

By the way. Trump in that same time appears to be a bigger failure than Yahoo. He has only gone from a claimed $7 billion to a claimed $10 billion. It seems Trump can't add wealth like the CEO of Yahoo can.

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Even more important -- and here's the key to Donald Trump's kingdom -- voters believe the political system, including (and maybe most of all) the President, have completely and utterly failed to get a handle on, or even appear to have a strategy for, security.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/opinions/borger-trump-success/

Dont stop there,,,,,they have failed at that and just about all the rest of their jobs as well. But ya, failing at security will motivate us to try to solve the problem faster than most anything else will.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

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The president decides which laws he cares about and ignores the rest

You are objecting to this when you are all for a guy that has stated in no uncertain terms he is going to ignore the US Constitution?

Ignore the US Constitution how?

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@parados,

She dont have to know as long as she has her hatred.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

the B-52 is still flying because the three bombers that were supposed to replace them were crap...super expensive crap

What is wrong with any of the subsequent bombers? They all seem fine to me.

The B-52s are about to head to the scrapyard unless we give them to Israel, which we might do.

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