The Future President, Donald Trump

Trump is a racist conspiracy theorist. Don’t let him lie his way out
By Greg Sargent
September 16 at 9:17 AM

This morning, Donald Trump announced on Fox Business Channel that he will deliver a “statement” later today about his longtime efforts to fuel racist conspiracy theories about the birthplace of the first African American president of the United States. This comes after Trump refused once again in an interview with the Post to say whether he believes Barack Obama is American, and after his campaign subsequently released a statement claiming that, in fact, he does believe that Obama was born in the United States.

There is going to be a lot of confusion today over what Trump does or doesn’t believe. But let’s not let two basic facts get lost in this discussion:

1) Trump has actively trafficked in this racist conspiracy theory for years, and not only that, he continued to feed it this year, even as he was running for the GOP nomination for president.

2) All indications are that Trump conceived of his birtherism as an explicitly racist appeal. While the true nature of Trump’s actual beliefs is important, since it goes to his fitness to serve as president, it’s also important that Trump explicitly tried to feed what he himself appeared to believe were racist tendencies among Republican primary voters, for political purposes ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/16/donald-trump-is-a-racist-conspiracy-theorist-dont-let-him-lie-his-way-out-of-it/?utm_term=.3cfc87b349c0

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@Finn dAbuzz,

I see you haven't found the ignore feature yet? I'll help you out. Click on name and then click "ignore user."

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@revelette2,

I see you haven't either.

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@bobsal u1553115,

Oh well, for what it's worth, just got a new flash as though it was be all end of everything, he finally admitted Obama born in US. I guess Obama can breathe a sigh of relief now. Gets on my nerves the importance people put on what Trump thinks or believes. The man is a cretin that is all there is to it. (used as a general term of a stupid person)

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@bobsal u1553115,

bobsal u1553115 wrote:

Trump is a racist conspiracy theorist. Don’t let him lie his way out
By Greg Sargent
September 16 at 9:17 AM

This morning, Donald Trump announced on Fox Business Channel that he will deliver a “statement” later today about his longtime efforts to fuel racist conspiracy theories about the birthplace of the first African American president of the United States. This comes after Trump refused once again in an interview with the Post to say whether he believes Barack Obama is American, and after his campaign subsequently released a statement claiming that, in fact, he does believe that Obama was born in the United States.

There is going to be a lot of confusion today over what Trump does or doesn’t believe. But let’s not let two basic facts get lost in this discussion:

1) Trump has actively trafficked in this racist conspiracy theory for years, and not only that, he continued to feed it this year, even as he was running for the GOP nomination for president.

2) All indications are that Trump conceived of his birtherism as an explicitly racist appeal. While the true nature of Trump’s actual beliefs is important, since it goes to his fitness to serve as president, it’s also important that Trump explicitly tried to feed what he himself appeared to believe were racist tendencies among Republican primary voters, for political purposes ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/16/donald-trump-is-a-racist-conspiracy-theorist-dont-let-him-lie-his-way-out-of-it/?utm_term=.3cfc87b349c0

This is a good example of how "racist" has been rendered devoid of its actual definition and treasured by the Left as a club.

How is questioning the place of Obama's birth racist?

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@Finn dAbuzz,

You were the one who said you couldn't stomach my "evidence."

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@georgeob1,

Quote georgeob1:

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coupled with growing unease about the recent and current direction of the country and economy than it is in a the attractions of Trump.

Having nothing to brag about in the current state of the country, the Democrata attack Treump.

No. Take a look at the facts instead of listening to those guys screaming on the AM radio. Job openings all over the place.

Past Month's Full Time jobs
July 2016.........123.892 Million Full Time jobs
Aug 2016.........124.301 Million Full Time jobs
Total: 0.408 Million, (408,000), Million Full Time jobs gained in the last month.

Past Year's Full Time jobs
Aug 2015.........122.045 Million Full Time jobs
Aug 2016.........124.301 Million Full Time jobs
Total: 2.256 Million Full Time jobs gained in the past year.
www.bls.gov

As Election Day nears, bread and butter issues start becoming more important, immigration and other stuff starts becoming less important. And Democrats have the bread and butter issues on their side this time. They also have the fact that crime and murder is declining per year, but the media refuses to recognize it.

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@revelette2,

Quote:

he finally admitted Obama born in US

but he had his fingers crossed and he dint pinky swear!

I don't think for a minute think he isn't already winking into the Basket of Deplorables, even as we speak

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@revelette2,

Snood calls Trump a "worm" and revelette calls him a "cretin" ( and rather pedantically adds a definition). There's not much to brag about in the current state of the country , and their candidate appears to be falling of her own accord. Where will they go next? What can follow?

Again ,

I suspect the recent changes are are more a result of steadily declining trust of and support for Hillary Clinton, coupled with growing unease about the recent and current direction of the country and economy than it is in a the attractions of Trump.

Having nothing to brag about in the current state of the country, the Democrata attack Trump. That is understandable given our feckless responses to the serious external challenges we face in a still unstable world; the lukewatm performance of an economy that is drifting into the zombe mode trailblazed by Japan, but with far more external debt; the growing income gap that results from the lack of investment, enterprise start ups and job creation in an exonomy held back by mindless bureaucratic regulation; or the unraveling of the unity of the country, including a lamentable degeneratrion of our population into competing self-serving groups vying for preferred treatment by the government and increased subsidies for themselves, instead of working to improve their own lives and those of their neighbors

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Quote:

as a club.

Its not a club, but if it hurts it just might be your conscience trying to get your attention.

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@georgeob1,

Quote georgeob1:

Quote:

I suspect the recent changes are are more a result of steadily declining trust of and support for Hillary Clinton, coupled with growing unease about the recent and current direction of the country and economy than it is in a the attractions of Trump.

Having nothing to brag about in the current state of the country,

Guess you're a slow learner. Lots of jobs all over the place, only you wouldn't know it listening to the screamers on the radio dial. Check out the Full Time jobs data, you know, the stuff which affects people's lives.

Past Month's Full Time jobs
July 2016.........123.892 Million Full Time jobs
Aug 2016.........124.301 Million Full Time jobs
Total: 0.408 Million, (408,000), Million Full Time jobs gained in the last month.

Past Year's Full Time jobs
Aug 2015.........122.045 Million Full Time jobs
Aug 2016.........124.301 Million Full Time jobs
Total: 2.256 Million Full Time jobs gained in the past year.
www.bls.gov

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Trump admits Obama born in U.S. but falsely blames Clinton for starting rumors

Source: The Washington Post

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Friday acknowledged for the first time that President Obama was born in the United States, ending his long history of stoking unfounded doubts about the nation’s first African-American president but also seeking to falsely blame Democratic rival Hillary Clinton for starting the rumors.

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it. I finished it, you know what I mean," Trump said at his newly opened luxury hotel in Washington on Friday morning. "President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period."

This is not the first time that Trump has accused Clinton of first raising questions about Obama's birthplace, an assertion that has been repeatedly disproven by fact-checkers who found no evidence that Clinton or her campaign questioned Obama's birth certificate or his citizenship.

“For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Clinton said on Friday, demanding that Trump apologize to Obama. "His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie. There is no erasing it in history."

-snip-

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-puts-end-to-birtherism

"Leave a lie, take a lie!" He just can't resist talking out of the other side of his mouth. So Hillary and Bill made him go birther.

Not very Presidential of him.

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@Blickers,

All merely numbers without context. Why then the concerns about the still growing income gap; our low inflation. low interest rate, low investment, low growth economy? Why the inflated rolls of food stamp. welfare and social security disability recipients? Why the high unemployment levels among the young including recent college graduates? Why the scramble for free stuff asmong groups seeking added "ptotection" from a government demonstrably unable to provide it reliably?

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@georgeob1,

The context is that Full Time jobs are flowing freely, they are available and people are going to work. The Food Stamp rolls have been declining for several years in a country with a growing population, where have you been? The unemployment levels are at a nice low 5% overall, stop cherry picking numbers. The country is doing quite nicely and has been for the last several years. I don't know about you, but more people working, more houses being built, life expectancy growing, less crime and fewer people getting murdered every year is something I would like to see continue.

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I find it interesting that I can't seem to locate a recent presidential poll for Pennsylvania from Real Clear Politics. The most recent one I can find is from August 29th where Hillary was 5.5 points ahead. And here it is September 16th and Donald Trump has reduced Hillary's lead in all other Battleground States to a virtual tie.

The Democrats and the Republicans thought this election was all sewn up that Hillary would win by a landslide and that the Republicans would be lucky to hold on to any majority in the House and Senate.

I'm not really for anyone but if I was I'd be for Trump. And the reason would be this: you got this guy who's never been a politician before running for office he's running against both parties and the media and has hardly spent a dime and it's a virtual tie... how could you not want to be for this Underdog.

When we see that Pennsylvania is a tie or within the statistical margin you will know that Hillary is finished.

Here's wishing Hillary a coughing Jag at the first debate so we can be done with this nonsense.

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@AC14747,

Those polls are meaningless. Trump is not going to win the votes from blacks and minorities. Many whites who see Trump as a racial bigot and a loose cannon isn't going to be voting for this showman fraud. Trump said, if we have nukes, why can't we use them.

Just this morning after five years questioning the birth of Obama, he finally spent 5 seconds admitting he was born in the US, and that's after he spent more words promoting his hotel. Then he claims he's put this issue to rest. What a joke! The guys a liar and a fraud.

There's no chance in hell Trump can win.

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@cicerone imposter,

Well I don't think Trump will lose the black vote because they were never going to vote for him to begin with the person who is going to lose the black vote is Hillary... Because they're probably going to stay home.

And I have to laugh out loud when you say the polls don't mean anything they seem to mean quite a bit before Labor Day when Hillary had what was it a 10-point lead that's now basically evaporated like water on a hot rock.

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@AC14747,

You need to keep up with the real news.'https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/09/about-that-poll-showing-donald-trump-doing-well-with-black-voters/

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@cicerone imposter,

Trump is now trading at 15/8 odds, equivalent to a 34 per cent chance, on Betfair's gambling exchange.

That translate to 66% chance he will lose. I'll feel more comfortable when that number reaches over 75%.

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@cicerone imposter,

Well since your link really doesn't go anywhere I doubt if anyone will argue the point that Trump or any Republican running for president would pull more than 3 or 4% of the black vote. But let me reiterate I don't think Hillary's going to do well with black voters either... The handwriting on the wall... I think they're going to stay home.

Oh and you're wrong about the percentage of trump winning... As of last night it's 41%... We'll see what it is after the first debate.

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