snood
 
  3  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 03:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Hispanics are going to vote in the highest level in history


And most of the votes will probably even be counted!
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 04:18 pm
@snood,
From your keyboard to G*d's screen.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 04:19 pm
@McGentrix,
This freaking thread, McG!
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bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 04:20 pm
http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/duadmin/160906-dallas-morning-news_zpszglcbaak.jpg
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giujohn
 
  -1  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 04:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Why do you favor Trump?


I dont...I will vote for Johnson
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 04:31 pm
@giujohn,
Please do. Wannabe President Johnson does have a certain ring to it.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 05:03 pm
Trump Camp Walks Back His Claim That He 'Never' Spoke With FL AG Pam Bondi
Source: Talking Points Memo

The Donald Trump campaign Tuesday walked back remarks the GOP nominee made Monday denying any communications with Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi before his 2013 donation in support of her campaign.

According to Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks, when Trump told reporters he "never" spoke to Bondi about "it," he meant that he never spoke to her about Trump University, which Bondi was considering suing at the time of the contribution. “His comments were in reference to any discussion about Trump University — not the donation,” Hicks told Politico.

In a separate AP report Tuesday, Hicks was unable to elaborate on the content of their conversation.

"I don't think this was a lengthy, memorable call," Hicks said. "Mr. Trump talks to a hundred people in any given day. So, I don't know if I will be able to provide that information. That's not exactly a realistic or reasonable request."

-snip-

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pam-bondi-trump-never-spoke-clarification
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 05:12 pm

The Cowardice of Donald Trump


He’s built his reputation on straight talk—but when the Republican candidate sits down with the groups he vilifies, he exhibits a striking change.
Carlo Allegri / Reuters

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/the-cowardice-of-donald-trump/498704/

Peter Beinart Sep 5, 2016 Politics

Crusaders against “political correctness” often portray themselves as brave. They deride others for knuckling under to left-wing orthodoxy, for being too afraid of African Americans, Latinos, feminists, and gays to speak the truth. They, on the other hand, speak their mind, come what may.

No presidential candidate has used this conceit more effectively than Donald Trump. His supporters love his willingness to say things about Mexicans, Muslims, and African Americans that ordinary politicians won’t say for fear of being called a bigot. That’s part of what they mean when they say he “doesn’t talk like a politician.”
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But over the last couple of weeks, Trump has illustrated something important about the anti-politically correct. They’re most comfortable confronting PC orthodoxy when the people they’re confronting aren’t around. Once they actually encounter African Americans, Latinos, and other minority groups, they become a lot less brave.

In an effort to soften his image, Trump has recently begun doing something he previous avoided: Talking to blacks and Latinos. Two weeks ago, he met with his Hispanic advisory council. According to media reports, he was “humble” and “conciliatory.” Did he call for deporting the undocumented immigrants already in the US, as he has repeatedly promised his overwhelmingly white crowds? Nope. According to Jacob Monty, who attended the meeting, Trump said “deporting them is neither possible nor humane.”

Then, last week, Trump flew to Mexico City to meet President Enrique Peña Nieto. Did he repeat the pledge that brings white crowds to their feet: That Mexico will pay for a wall along the two countries’ border? Nope. Beforehand, the two sides agreed not to discuss the subject. When Peña Nieto brought it up anyway, and announced that Mexico would never foot the bill, did Trump set him straight? Nope. Rudy Giuliani, who was attending the meeting on Trump’s behalf, reportedly declared the topic “off the table” and The Donald moved on to less controversial subjects.

When Trump appeared publicly with Peña Nieto after their meeting, he again “avoided direct confrontation,” in the Washington Post’s words. He called it a “great, great, honor” to be invited to the country he has repeatedly trashed during the campaign. And he declared that he had “tremendous feelings” for the “tremendous” Mexican American people, a group he famously derided as rapists and drug dealers in his announcement speech.

But once Trump left Mexico and addressed an overwhelmingly white, anti-immigrant crowd that evening in Arizona, the Post noted, he ditched his “subdued and cooperative tone” and “returned to the aggressive tenor that has defined much of his campaign. Repeatedly raising his voice to a yell, he said that ‘anyone who has entered the United States illegally is subject to deportation.’”

The oscillation continued this weekend, when Trump addressed an African American congregation in Detroit. “Trump’s subdued rhetoric,” noted Politico, “was a jarring contrast to his typically boisterous rallies.” The Republican nominee said nothing about Black Lives Matter being responsible for the murder of police, as he had told Bill O’Reilly. He didn’t imply, as he has to white audiences, that African Americans are prone to voter fraud. He said nothing about Barack Obama not being born in the United States. He didn’t repeat his claims that blacks should vote for him because their lives are so miserable that they have nothing “to lose.” Instead, he flattered his audience, calling black churches “the conscience of our country,” which had inspired America “toward a better moral character, a deeper concern for mankind, and spirit of charity and unity that binds us all together.” Trump’s remarks, noted the Post, constituted a “jarring shift in tone and message.”

This isn’t surprising. Even more than most politicians, Trump lives for the approval of the crowd. His ego is so overdeveloped, and his ideological convictions so underdeveloped, that it’s hard to imagine him walking into a room and saying things he knows his audience doesn’t want to hear. But Trump isn’t alone. Put Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, or most of the other conservatives who have made a career of being anti-PC in a small room with Latinos, African Americans, or Muslims and I suspect their rhetoric would dramatically soften, too. It’s harder to speak bluntly and nastily about people when they’re staring you in the face. It’s also harder because when you actually listen to them, they often defy your stereotypes. Up close, their grievances become harder to dismiss.

I’m glad Trump is now speaking to more diverse crowds. I’m glad because, in so doing, he’s proving that when it comes to “political correctness,” conservative politicians and pundits aren’t more courageous than their liberal counterparts. They’re just more isolated from the ethnic and racial minorities about whom they speak. When the distance disappears, the “bravery” does too.
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parados
 
  5  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 05:14 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
So is Trump never speaking to Bondi about Trump University similar to Trump never speaking to the Mexican President about Mexico paying for the wall?

It's just his version of what constitutes talking about something, not whether the subject was actually discussed.
maporsche
 
  4  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 05:34 pm
@giujohn,
I don't believe you but I truly hope you do.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Tue 6 Sep, 2016 06:27 pm
@parados,
All depends which version Lyin' Donny is weaving at the moment.
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giujohn
 
  -4  
Wed 7 Sep, 2016 09:19 am
@maporsche,
And why wouldn't you believe me when did I ever say that I was going to vote for Trump when did I ever say that I supported Trump what you heard me say is that I do not want to see Hillary in the White House... Worst possible scenario for the future of this country... Unless if she's elected afterwards we were too discover enough of her criminal activity to get her impeached and convicted... Now that would be a thing of beauty.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Wed 7 Sep, 2016 10:12 am
@bobsal u1553115,
53% of Trump's statements are False or Pants On Fire.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Americans who believe this racial bigot has got brain damage.
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maporsche
 
  2  
Wed 7 Sep, 2016 10:23 am
@giujohn,
I believe that, in order to keep Hillary out of the WH, you will vote for Trump. A vote for a 3rd party doesn't help your goal.

Thus you will vote for Trump in order to avoid the "worst possible scenario."
snood
 
  4  
Wed 7 Sep, 2016 10:42 am
Then thing about Trump is, he is so corrupt for so long in so many ways, that the lazy media can't decide which of the many f-ed up facets of his life on which to focus.

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) is calling on federal authorities to investigate Trump Model Management for alleged labor and immigration violations


The $25,000 donation wasn't even the only act of generosity that Trump extended Bondi's way: In March 2014, his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach hosted a fundraiser for her.


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giujohn
 
  -1  
Wed 7 Sep, 2016 11:10 am
@maporsche,
Ah... I didn't realize you were a mind reader
woiyo
 
  -1  
Wed 7 Sep, 2016 11:18 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Cant use this argument against Trump. Trump is/was a Private Citizen possible using the system for his advantage.

Hillary on the other hand used her influence to with foreign Nations as Sec of State, to bribe them into making donations to the charity in return for political favors.

Even if you want to use this as an argument, you really wanna compare 25K to BILLIONS of DOLLARS???
maporsche
 
  2  
Wed 7 Sep, 2016 11:33 am
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

Ah... I didn't realize you were a mind reader


Talk to me on 11/9
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 7 Sep, 2016 02:04 pm
@maporsche,
Laughing
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