Blickers
 
  3  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 02:18 pm
@revelette2,
"The little guy" Trump was obviously talking about was independent Michael Bloomberg, former mayor of New York City and founder of the Bloomberg media empire. What is no doubt painful for Trump, who likes to characterize his opponents as losers, is that Bloomberg started out poor, and now has about 100 times more wealth than Trump. Bloomberg's speech characterized Trump as someone who was not good enough, not professional enough, and not enough of a winner for Bloomberg to consider doing business with-something that must have rankled Trump. Here's the 11 minute speech:

blatham
 
  5  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 02:26 pm
For the love of god. Here's what Trump said today re the RNC convention

Quote:
“I didn’t produce our show — I just showed up for the final speech on Thursday.”

One might be lead to conclude that Palin to Trump is actually a step down.
Blickers
 
  3  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 02:31 pm
@blatham,
In other words, Trump is saying: Our convention sucked, nobody important wanted to speak, family members had to make the speeches, nobody showed up and nobody watched. But hell, don't blame me.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 02:33 pm
From Ryan Bundy's case before the US district court judge, a Bundy-written document:
Quote:
“I, ryan c, man, am an idiot of the ‘Legal Society’; and; am an idiot (layman, outsider) of the ‘Bar Association’; and; i am incompetent; and; am not required by any law to be competent,”

Fair enough. The law can only do so much.
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izzythepush
 
  4  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 02:57 pm
@Blickers,
That is disturbing. Wilful ignorance, and fantasy over reality. It says something when they have to invent **** because they can't talk about the real issues.
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blatham
 
  4  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 03:17 pm
Last night, Fox cut away from the amazing speech by Khizr Khan because of course they did.
RABEL222
 
  4  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 03:39 pm
@giujohn,
Where do you live Giu, I got my FOID card in 20 days. Maybe they had to check you closer than normal?
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 03:42 pm
@blatham,
Some pundits said that Khan's speech was one of the most powerful.
revelette2
 
  2  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 03:50 pm
@Blickers,
Well, I hope you are right it is Bloomberg, I thought it was a literal description of the little man who has a rare (I hate to use the word, but it is word which was used all night)form of dwarfism. I even told my husband about it, he actually got mad and he is not really sensitive.

As a matter of curiosity, why would Bloomberg be the "little guy?" I understand why his speech would make Trump mad enough to hit to where his would spin (has a big opinion of his own fighting powers)but not really why he would term Bloomberg as the "the little guy."
revelette2
 
  2  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 03:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It was, I just wish the audience wasn't so hyped up, you know gave him time to get his words out and sort of be more solemn for his speech about his Muslim son who died fighting for the US. Now one of Trump's people are out saying Trump didn't mean all Muslims...
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 03:56 pm
@revelette2,
Trump said "ban all Muslims."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/

Trump can't always backtrack on his decisions. After he nukes any country by mistake, he can't take that back. That's the reason he's unqualified to be CIC.
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ossobucotemp
 
  3  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 04:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I agree it was the most.

He was entirely sincere and in a way brave as was his wife.

I admire them.

I am voting Hillary but I see a well wrought scenario of hopefulness and bombast of joy for how good we are and what we will do. Showtime to fit needs.
It's almost an you're are kidding list, even for democrats. I'm, if someone doesn't know, a dem voter. Once for Green in a lower situation.

I get the non trust, as I have it. I also fear her hawk. I'm not anti military, my dad was a Colonel, but her show of enamor of military was apparently disconcerting to many, though I'm not sure if they were all bernie+s or mixed.

I admit to having a personal animosity to manipulation and a nose for it, but in a DNC thing or even olden days RNC thing, I get it, the way of the world.
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 04:09 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It was very powerful.
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blatham
 
  2  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 04:16 pm
Quote:
Josh Rogin ‏@joshrogin 53m53 minutes ago
Trump just said if he loses, it's not his fault, it's "because you people get lazy, you don't vote."

Congrats, Republicans. That dude is a leader.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 04:27 pm
@blatham,
And a great spokesman for the GOP. He has split the party as nobody else can.
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roger
 
  3  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 05:15 pm
@revelette2,
Trump is forever saying thing it turned out he didn't mean.

I think they call it 'walking it back'. Of course, the democrats recalibrate.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 29 Jul, 2016 05:20 pm
@roger,
The best thing that ever happened to the GOP.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-can-t-stop-splitting-gop-n594021
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 30 Jul, 2016 04:19 am
The Sanders movement is bigger than Bernie. Now it must defeat Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/26/sanders-movement-bernie-hillary-donald-trump

“Together we have begun a political revolution,” declared a triumphant Bernie Sanders to the Democratic national convention. He has every reason to be triumphant. According to the conventional yardstick of political success, Sanders is a failure: he lost his battle to become the Democratic presidential candidate. But he – and, more importantly, the movement behind him – represent an extraordinary political triumph.

The relatively obscure septuagenarian self-described socialist senator from Vermont was expected to attract derisory support: he ended up running the US’s most formidable political machine uncomfortably close. Who could have imagined that, in 2016, a socialist candidate in the United States would have 46% of mandated delegates at a Democratic national convention?

His movement not only forced issues on the agenda, most notably the injustice of a country with such potential being so monstrously rigged in favour of a tiny elite, but it has dragged the Democrats’ policy platform to the left: from the minimum wage to the war on drugs. As his policy director Warren Gunnels has put it: “I think if you read the platform right now, you will understand that the political revolution is alive and kicking.” It is worth looking to the political right for precedent. The rightwing Republican Barry Goldwater suffered a landslide defeat in the 1964 presidential election, but much of his politics would go on to dominate the party. “We… who voted for him in 1964 believe he won,” wrote the American journalist George Will. “It just took 16 years to count the votes.”

Undoubtedly, the vast majority of Sanders’ supporters will vote for Hillary Clinton, despite a media focus on those pledging to do otherwise. Yes, his most zealous supporters refuse to distinguish between Clinton and Donald Trump. There is nothing radical about failing to take a stand on a far-right racist demagogue sweeping to power in what remains the world’s most powerful nation. The election of Trump would represent one of the greatest calamities to befall the west since the end of the second world war. The task ahead is to ensure Trump’s defeat – as decisively as possible – and Democratic control of both Houses of Congress, and then to build pressure from below to enact progressive legislation.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 30 Jul, 2016 04:24 am
@giujohn,
Quote:
Tell that to the close to 3,500 people that have been murdered since Obama took office.


Too bad there was no gun control laws, right?
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sat 30 Jul, 2016 04:28 am
@giujohn,
Quote:
There is no such thing as a Gun Show loophole


Then you've never been to a Texas gun show, something I've done any number of times. You don't need to be a dealer to show. And as you well know - anything goes between private sellers and buyers whether its in a gun show, online, from a newspaper ad or word of mouth.
 

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