The Future President, Donald Trump

@cicerone imposter,

Yeah, and he also has his African - American. Beat that, cicerone.

@roger,

Discussion topic: Is Trump's "mastery" of social media due to the Darwinian advantage conveyed by his tiny hands?

@DrewDad,

I know I am fixing to ruin the joke, forgive ahead of time.

I think Trump's mastery of the media was the product of three things. One his outrageous provoking statements. Number two, fox news decided to devote their time to Trump and it seems the rest of the media followed suit. He must have gotten good ratings through his obnoxiousness'. Number three is his use of twitter and call ins, both relatively free air time. He just says something attention getting and boom, he has air times for days without spending money on advertisements or air time.

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@revelette2,

He's really a colossal cheap skate isn't he? He mooches off others as long as he can.

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@revelette2,

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I think Trump's mastery of the media was the product of three things. One his outrageous provoking statements. Number two, fox news decided to devote their time to Trump and it seems the rest of the media followed suit. He must have gotten good ratings through his obnoxiousness'. Number three is his use of twitter and call ins, both relatively free air time. He just says something attention getting and boom, he has air times for days without spending money on advertisements or air time.

All of those things, plus his building of his public image as a free-wheeling man who does what he wants and forces those who block him out of his way. The publicity for his TV show and it's signature line, "You're fired!" has helped to build up this image as well. That set the table for the things you mentioned to build up his candidacy to a crescendo.

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Paul Waldman, who co-blogs with Greg Sargent at the Washington Post's Plumline blog, has a typically thoughtful piece up this morning on Trump and media failure.

There has been an on-going and valid critique of modern media's tendencies towards false equivalence (scientists say world is round, others disagree) where journalists strive to hew to a formulaic posture of objectivity that ends up seriously mis-representing the real world. Jay Rosen (Pressthink blog) out of NYU is a key critical voice making this argument and many others like Norm Ornstein make it as well.

But in the piece linked, Paul addresses a couple of key cultural aspects which work against what most of us would consider responsible journalism in this modern period - the balkanization of media outlets/voices and the frightening fact of how many Americans respond positively to the sort of rhetoric that Trump forwards. Though journalism could be and must be better than much of it is, the problems are deeper and more intractable.

Right now, I'm re-reading Rick Perlstein's Nixonland. The similarities the present and the sixties/seventies as regards how many Americans responded to bigotry, racism and xenophobia from Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan are sobering. Paul's piece is here http://wapo.st/1rm8UJA

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@blatham,

Trump proves repeatedly that he's ignorant of facts; the Orlando terrorist was American born.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/in-wake-of-attack-trump-renews-calls-for-banning-muslims-from-u-s-164054379.html

All it proves to many Americans is that Trump is a bigot, and has no place in American politics.
Most violent crimes in this country are perpetrated by whites; over 60% (FBI). Maybe, he should think about moving to another country, so we'll be safer.

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Louis C.K. on picking a candidate

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“It’s like if you were on a plane and you wanted to choose a pilot,” the “Louie” star said. “You have one person, Hillary, who says, ‘Here’s my license. Here’s all the thousands of flights that I’ve flown. Here’s planes I’ve flown in really difficult situations. I’ve had some good flights and some bad flights, but I’ve been flying for a very long time, and I know exactly how this plane works.’”

The comedian continued, saying, “Then you’ve got Bernie, who says, ‘Everyone should get a ride right to their house with this plane.’ ‘Well, how are you going to do that?’ ‘I just think we should. It’s only fair that everyone gets to use the plane equally.’ And then Trump says, ‘I’m going to fly so well. You’re not going to believe how good I’m going to fly this plane, and by the way, Hillary never flew a plane in her life.’ ‘She did, and we have pictures.’ ‘No, she never did it.’ It’s insane.”

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@engineer,

The Donald:

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But pressed on how his proposed ban would have stopped Sunday’s massacre, which authorities say was perpetrated by an American-born citizen, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee simply doubled down on the policy, suggesting immigrants are entering the country and corrupting people who are already here.

This guy wants to be our president, and about 34% wants him to be.

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@cicerone imposter,

As long as it stays around 34%, we're in good shape.

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@Blickers,

I hope you guys are right because where I live its more like 60% are saying their going to vote Trump. I am an abused minority for my democratic leanings.

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@RABEL222,

Something like 51% of white males favor Trump, as of a few days ago. The only thing is, nobody else does.

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@Blickers,

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Something like 51% of white males favor Trump, as of a few days ago....

Over Hillary? Or were there other choices?

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Russian hackers stole DNC's research on Trump: report

I know I am going to ask a dumb question, but why do they want that information?

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@revelette2,

revelette2 wrote:

Russian hackers stole DNC's research on Trump: report

I know I am going to ask a dumb question, but why do they want that information?

I don't think it's a dumb question at all. My first reaction is, they're working in cahoots with Donald and want to sabotage DNC efforts against him.

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@Builder,

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Over Hillary? Or were there other choices?

Hillary and Trump. I misstated, it was something like 5o% of whites total favor Trump. Here's the Quinnipiac Poll, with the breakdowns of white male, white female, total blacks and total hispanics.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah279/LeviStubbs/Hillary%20Trump%20white%20black%20women%20men_zpspoptjf2u.jpg

https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us06012016_Ugb28vf.pdf Page 3

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@Blickers,

Scary: Many want a textbook racist to be our president. However, I'm somewhat glad to see them come out of the woodworks now rather than hiding in the background. It reveals much about our country.

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@cicerone imposter,

I agree that Trump is scary, but I suspect that it's not that many want a racist a president, but rather they want someone who they agree with on 70% of what he says and that they'd rather vote for him than someone they agree with on 30% of what she says. Someone supporting Trump doesn't make them a racist, it makes them a republican.

It makes total sense and it's how American government works (at least until there is a proportional electoral collage process)

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@maporsche,

Actually, I don't know that too many of them actually know the issues enough to have an opinion, it's Trump's "I'm gonna kick ass and straighten this country OUT" attitude they are drawn to.

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@snood,

Hopefully Hillary has her own data base and they can't get to it.

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