Kolyo
 
  4  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 09:41 pm
Gotta love the coverage of the Republican primaries tonight, reporting a "sweep" by Trump. There was no one else officially still running!
Builder
 
  0  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 09:44 pm
@Kolyo,
Quote:
There was no one else officially still running!


Running off at the mouth, maybe. That's the Trumpet.
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edgarblythe
 
  3  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 09:52 pm
Some sweep. He's the only candidate and I see him winning mostly in the seventies. Who are the other votes for,
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 10:34 pm
@edgarblythe,
What I've been trying to find are the number of votes for Trump vs those for Clinton and Sanders. Trump wins big in most states, but the number of votes he gets vs Clinton and Sanders, I think, is important for the general election.
What do you think?
roger
 
  1  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 10:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
With no opposition, I think total votes are meaningless.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 10:55 pm
@roger,
That's true for Trump, but in the general election, total vote count will be important.
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edgarblythe
 
  1  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 11:07 pm
I don't know how to factor most of it. I know certain states are must wins, while others usually fall into an expected camp.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 7 Jun, 2016 11:13 pm
@edgarblythe,
This is important information about young voters.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-young-voters_us_5706818de4b0a506064e5e06
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edgarblythe
 
  -2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 09:37 am
DrewDad
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 09:53 am
@edgarblythe,
It was only a matter of time before there were Trump Truthers!
snood
 
  4  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 10:04 am
@DrewDad,
Hell Lash has been floating the notion that the Clintons and Trump were in cahoots for a while now.
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engineer
 
  4  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 11:27 am
@edgarblythe,
If Clinton figured out that the Republican party would nominate a loud mouthed, incompetent and convinced him to run, she is way smarter than just about everyone else.
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ehBeth
 
  1  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 11:34 am
@DrewDad,
that meme's been floating around in right-wing media for close to a year now

I started noticing it not too long after the 2015 Koch Brothers' party in the woods
ossobuco
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 11:44 am
@ehBeth,
I thought of it, not that they were in cahoots, but that he was playing some kind of political game that might also benefit Clinton, along with other guesses I made re what Trump was up to. I think I considered it once or twice, but ended up dismissing it when I reviewed his past behaviors.
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blatham
 
  1  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 03:08 pm
Good grief. The notion that Trump is a Clinton plant (which, as Beth says, is a notion that has long been kicking about in the insane portions of the right) is the height of foolishness and delusion.

Ought we to also suppose that Clinton somehow managed to corral GOP primary voters in all the states that held them?

Ought we also to suppose that the Clinton team is so adept at reading/polling the public mind that they would know or guess - uniquely, because no one else had any such idea - that Trump would perform as he did with GOP voters?

Get ******* real.

farmerman
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 03:17 pm
@blatham,
I think this entire "You aint conservative enough" **** will gradually erode the GOP .
As far as the "Clintonian Plant" goes, there is still a sizeable minority of morons who believe we DID NOT land on the moon and that 9-11 was an inside job.
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 04:13 pm
@farmerman,
Re Trump as Clinton plant, moon landings, birth certificates, con trails, Jewish Bankers, Moscow's involvement in designing the "new math" and countless other bites of fruitcake eagerly gobbled up by simpletons who love simple, yeah, I know. One of the most helpful analyses I've ever read was Hofstadter's essay The Paranoid Style in American Politics. I'm just rather surprised to see such crap on this board.

As I've said earlier, I really can't guess what's going to happen on the right now. I do agree that the "you aren't conservative enough" dynamic is and has been degrading the GOP's electoral chances at the national level. Inevitably, because it is both inward-directed and can never be truly satiated, it is self-defeating. But we are not yet at the point where some new, coherent consensus has appeared on the right that might overturn/replace that old way of thinking.

And how that will/might come about isn't clear to me. Most everyone I read presumes only continuing and severe electoral losses will be the thing that tips it over. That seems a reasonable notion. But if we look at the situation in '64 and the crushing of Goldwater, it's not encouraging. The GOP now is closer in ideology and in practice to Goldwater/John Birchism than to the traditional conservatism of that period. And now, that Bircher ideology (minus the blatant anti-Semitism) is deeply and broadly institutionalized on the right.

So I just don't know where the hell things go now past this next election.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 04:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I wonder what the average age is on a2k political posts. I know C I and I are the same age. That is by the way eighty. Hurts to think about it.
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farmerman
 
  1  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 04:33 pm
@blatham,
You should read the Dunning Krueger analysis of really "Clueless" people. They claim that Glenn Beck is a leader and card carrying member of this sect.

However, I see flashes of growth in Paul Ryan
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 8 Jun, 2016 04:37 pm
I should also add (re my post directly above) that the possibility yet remains that Trump will either bail or get muscled out. And that includes another set of unpredictable possibilities for this election and past.
 

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