edgarblythe
 
  2  
Sun 15 May, 2016 04:15 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

So elected officials are superdelegates? How do the rest of the delegates get selected?

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13151577_1069840506393251_6393049146611783662_n.jpg?oh=bb4a20427478563f27798931ab651abb&oe=57DE9F58

He exactly said that in the video, using the justification that his status as senator gives him the right to override voters preferences in the primaries.
parados
 
  3  
Sun 15 May, 2016 04:29 pm
@edgarblythe,
No. He didn't say exactly that. What he said was almost the opposite. He said the voters elected him to use his judgement.

This is what Franken said, "I think the Democratic voters that elected me to the Senate want me to exercise my judgement on who I think would be the best President of the United States. "

Your argument seems to be that he should ignore the voters that voted him into office and ignore the 40% that voted for Hillary in MN.
snood
 
  1  
Sun 15 May, 2016 04:45 pm
@parados,
Thanks Parados for the actual quote. I KNEW something smelled fishy about that meme poster.
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Builder
 
  -4  
Sun 15 May, 2016 05:07 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
He exactly said that in the video, using the justification that his status as senator gives him the right to override voters preferences in the primaries.


Yes, I agree. He's not listening to the current democratic voters. He's saying that people don't change their opinion from election to election, which, as we both know, is BS.
parados
 
  2  
Sun 15 May, 2016 05:15 pm
@Builder,
Franken received over 1 million votes in 2014.
Sanders received 118,135 caucus votes in 2016.

Where are all those people that changed their opinion and want Franken to vote for Sanders? Is see almost 900,000 that want Franken to make his own decisions.
Builder
 
  -1  
Sun 15 May, 2016 09:06 pm
@parados,
These are the primaries. You are comparing apples and oranges. The party has realized the superdelegates issue isn't working. It's obvious to us why.
glitterbag
 
  4  
Sun 15 May, 2016 10:19 pm
@Builder,
Darn, I guess you can't figure out who to vote For can you? Oops, I forgot, your not an American citizen so you can vote for any US politician. That's gotta sting. But thanks so much for pointing out how disappointed one particular citizen of another country feels. We shall take it under advisement, and really hope we can satisfy you.
Builder
 
  -2  
Mon 16 May, 2016 01:18 am
@glitterbag,
Quote:
But thanks so much for pointing out how disappointed one particular citizen of another country feels.


Now that is chuckle-worthy. The UK people have an ongoing poll to keep Trump out of their nation altogether. The UK parliament will be forced to act upon this poll, because that's how things (still) work over there. The Australian unelected PM has been asked his reaction, should Trump gain the presidency. Using double-talk, he says it's doable.

These two issues have already been discussed in this thread, but, by all means, carry on thinking that it's just me that's concerned.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 16 May, 2016 02:51 am
@Builder,
They have acted, it was debated in parliament, which is all they were required to do. Trump wasn't banned because it was thought the harm in Anglo American relations outweighed the good.

You'd think he'd be happy, but no.

Quote:
Donald Trump has warned he may not have a "very good relationship" with UK Prime Minister David Cameron if he wins the US presidency.

Mr Cameron has called the Republican hopeful "stupid, divisive and wrong" over his call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US.

Mr Trump also said he would not forgive London Mayor Sadiq Khan for calling him "ignorant".

Spokespeople for Mr Cameron and Mr Khan said they stood by their comments.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36300005
Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 16 May, 2016 03:00 am
@izzythepush,
Thanks Izzy.

Due to the almost total media control by Mudrock Nooz, I don't read tabloids here any more.

It was only last week that "our" PM was questioned over the possibility of dealing with him one on one.

Surprised I didn't hear diddly squat about this in the ol' Dart, though.
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ehBeth
 
  5  
Mon 16 May, 2016 01:31 pm
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/heres-how-hillary-clinton-should-attack-trump.html#
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parados
 
  3  
Mon 16 May, 2016 02:25 pm
@Builder,
So you are arguing that over 1,000,000 people voted for Franken so he would listen to and follow the wishes of 113,000?

By the way, Clinton will have the majority of the regular delegates. Not only the majority but her lead over Sanders will be over 3 times what Obama's was over Hillary in 2008.
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RABEL222
 
  1  
Mon 16 May, 2016 04:42 pm
@Builder,
No he dident.
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RABEL222
 
  2  
Mon 16 May, 2016 04:46 pm
@Builder,
He is saying that because he knows both candidates personally he thinks Hillary will make the better candidate. You are misquoting him.
Builder
 
  -1  
Mon 16 May, 2016 05:31 pm
@RABEL222,
Which is basically an admission that people casting a vote is pointless, right?

Apparently the DNC will be voting on whether to keep superdelegates or not at a the Maine convention.

Quote:
Things get lively as the Democratic State Convention in Portland decides to bind superdelegates, beginning in 2020, to the outcome of the state's caucuses or primaries.


Article here.
maporsche
 
  3  
Tue 17 May, 2016 09:58 am
@Builder,
That's only for Maine.
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revelette2
 
  2  
Tue 17 May, 2016 10:25 am
I wish people would quit acting as though the rules were created just to help Hillary and keep Bernie from winning. These rules are the same as they have been for years and I can't recall anyone in the past decrying them quite the same as they do this election cycle. Hillary ran in 2008 with the same rules and yet she lost to a better candidate who managed to overtake her. She was ahead in the beginning then too but Obama managed to pull ahead of her. Bernie simply has not done as well as Obama did in 2008. Get over it for heavens sake and get on with the business of running against Trump.
Builder
 
  -1  
Tue 17 May, 2016 07:40 pm
@revelette2,
Quote:
These rules are the same as they have been for years and I can't recall anyone in the past decrying them....


That's not the case at all. The DNC screwed Sanders over several times, by shifting the goal posts at the last minute, and denying delegates the right to state their case. Nevada being the most obvious.

Quote:
...get on with the business of running against Trump.


Spoken like a true oligarch.
snood
 
  2  
Tue 17 May, 2016 07:53 pm
@Builder,
Wtf are you mooks gonna do after Hillary wins? Just go about bewailing how you been done wrong?
revelette2
 
  1  
Tue 17 May, 2016 07:57 pm
@snood,
I don't even know what he is so het up about, he don't even live in the US. I guess he'll and others will just continue to moan about being cheated instead of coming together to initiate some of the things both campaigns want.
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