Builder
 
  2  
Fri 6 May, 2016 04:53 pm
@snood,
Quote:
The fact still remains that she is most qualified person to get my vote of the bunch we have.


Hasn't Senator Sanders been in the "game" long enough? Or, have you given up on him as a choice or chance?
snood
 
  3  
Fri 6 May, 2016 05:29 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
The fact still remains that she is most qualified person to get my vote of the bunch we have.


Hasn't Senator Sanders been in the "game" long enough? Or, have you given up on him as a choice or chance?

I believe Hillary would handle the rough and tumble better. I think (and I know it's almost cliche at this point) that she would have a better chance of moving things than Bernie would. Don't really want to go back and forth about it, at this point. We've all had months and months to form an opinion.
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Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 05:37 pm
Irrelevant of Trump or Hillary, at this point, who scares me the most is Sanders. I fear he will become a 'Ross Perot' and split the dem/ind vote and give Trump an in to win.
parados
 
  3  
Fri 6 May, 2016 05:56 pm
@BillRM,
Clearly you are racist since you are claiming being black is the reason for the murders in the black community. Murders tend to take place in communities with greater poverty. Now, what are you willing to do about poverty?
parados
 
  3  
Fri 6 May, 2016 06:05 pm
@Lilkanyon,
At this point it would be impossible for a third party independent candidate to get on the ballot in 50 states. He would need to get the necessary signatures within the next month to couple of months without an apparatus in place to do that.
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates
He would still be denied ballot access in Texas because of the sore loser laws.


Perhaps, the most that Bernie could do is hope to get the Green party nomination which would get him on 21 state ballots. I doubt they would nominate him.

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_major_and_minor_party_candidates
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Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 06:05 pm
@parados,
Just ignore Bill, I was also roped into his trolling...hes not worth wasting your valuable finger typing energy to respond. I elect him campaign manager of the Trump campaign! Trump 2016 Bill! 😂😝
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 6 May, 2016 06:10 pm
@parados,
Bill suffers from myopia: black on black crimes. He ignores white on white crimes which is greater in numbers and percentage.
Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 06:15 pm
Trump! The man who "financed his own campaign and wont be bought", is now hiring managers to induce finance for his campaign. What are your going to sell the Am people now Trump?
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Builder
 
  2  
Fri 6 May, 2016 06:29 pm
My partner was curious as to whether or not this is standard procedure;


Quote:


The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
May 06, 2016


Executive Order -- Facilitation of a Presidential Transition

EXECUTIVE ORDER

- - - - - - -

FACILITATION OF A PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7301 of title 5, United States Code, and the Presidential Transition Act of 1963, as amended, and to assist the Presidential transition, it is hereby ordered as follows:


The rest of the article is here.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 07:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Bill suffers from myopia: black on black crimes. He ignores white on white crimes which is greater in numbers and percentage.


I had never address black on black crimes in general I had been addressing that the 13 percent of the population that happen to be black are suffering roughly 50 percents of the total homicide rate of the society.

To the point it is reducing the average lifespan of black males by a year all by itself.

Sorry CI I know we are not allow to address this problem an are only allow to bury the black murder victims in silent.
0 Replies
 
glitterbag
 
  3  
Fri 6 May, 2016 07:20 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
The uber-conservatives watch each other like Hawks to make sure everyone thinks and speaks the same appropriate republican way.


And that "way" is now defined by their rep in Trump? Or is he representing only the radicalised sector?

We have a left and right in OZ politics, but the left leans so far right, and right leans so far left, they're both really centrist by definition.




He really can't be placed in either category, he's a megalomaniacal opportunist.
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BillRM
 
  -3  
Fri 6 May, 2016 07:21 pm
@Lilkanyon,
Quote:
I elect him campaign manager of the Trump campaign!


Thanks for the job offer even those I had never voted for a republican in my life.
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BillRM
 
  -2  
Fri 6 May, 2016 07:52 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Clearly you are racist since you are claiming being black is the reason for the murders in the black community. Murders tend to take place in communities with greater poverty. Now, what are you willing to do about poverty?



All kind of programs is possible to address the problems in the black community however poverty is not the problem it is one of the results of the problems not the cause of the problems.

Let see give all the support possible to the million men type movement where men are men when they form families and take care of women and their children.

The out of wedlock birth rate is off the chart for the black community and the more families without males in them the more poverty there is and the more likely by all studies that the male children will be gang members or at least be involved with the criminal so call justice system.

Do away with most minimum sentencing and reduce greatly the so call war on drugs.

Lord I could go on and on but one thing I do know as I said before poverty is the result of the problems not the cause of the problems and the black community need to look inward more for their problems and the solutions to those problems.
glitterbag
 
  3  
Fri 6 May, 2016 08:27 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

My partner was curious as to whether or not this is standard procedure;


Quote:


The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
May 06, 2016


Executive Order -- Facilitation of a Presidential Transition

EXECUTIVE ORDER

- - - - - - -

FACILITATION OF A PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION

The rest of the article is here.


The Presidential Transition is the same after every new president is elected. It's crucial that the new team is up to speed immediately. There are a large number of career folks who remain on for multiple administrations. They are not political appointees (thank god) and they make sure things continue to run normally. It would be chaos if the normal protocol was reinvented every four to eight years. I never really thought about the need for an executive order, but it makes sense. That Executive Order probably is almost identical to all the other EO's drafted by outgoing presidents. You can't replace every worker without destroying corporate memory. Thats why some positions are appointees and others are career.
parados
 
  4  
Fri 6 May, 2016 08:48 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Let see give all the support possible to the million men type movement where men are men when they form families and take care of women and their children.

Sure, because men that can't get an education and a job should just do both. That's what a white guy would do. Oh.... wait.. white guys have an advantage that you refuse to admit exists.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 6 May, 2016 08:59 pm
@parados,
Just two years ago: http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/05/us/memphis-supervisor-racist-audio/
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Lilkanyon
 
  1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 09:02 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Clearly you are racist since you are claiming being black is the reason for the murders in the black community. Murders tend to take place in communities with greater poverty. Now, what are you willing to do about poverty?



All kind of programs is possible to address the problems in the black community however poverty is not the problem it is one of the results of the problems not the cause of the problems.

Let see give all the support possible to the million men type movement where men are men when they form families and take care of women and their children.



The out of wedlock birth rate is off the chart for the black community and the more families without males in them the more poverty there is and the more likely by all studies that the male children will be gang members or at least be involved with the criminal so call justice system.

Do away with most minimum sentencing and reduce greatly the so call war on drugs.

Lord I could go on and on but one thing I do know as I said before poverty is the result of the problems not the cause of the problems and the black community need to look inward more for their problems and the solutions to those problems.



Ok, Bill is not eloquent in his arguments but brings up a good point. Its an issue that is pervasive, but to be brought up also invokes skimming on racism because people choose it to be so. So many times I hear we need to have an "honest" discussion about race yet that seems to only be one sided, blacks railing on whites for their slights. And thats deserved! Throughout history whites have made life difficult if not impossible for blacks to achieve equality. But! Same time...there is a certain amount of sabatoge amongst the black community that has nothing to do with white inequality at all. Having babies in their teens, no marriage, no dads in their lives...nothing to do with black/white inequality. Even a black woman, trying to talk about these issues was drowned out and shut down on mass media....noone wanted to hear it. As long as blacks play victim to the inequalities of American life, they have the power of protest and if you are ever critical, you are branded a racist. As I surely will be, and I am not. I want nothing more then blacks to be strong and rich and influentual in our society. Its good for us all. I voted for Obama and still support him. But I call it for what it is.
BillRM
 
  -2  
Fri 6 May, 2016 09:07 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Sure, because men that can't get an education and a job should just do both. That's what a white guy would do. Oh.... wait.. white guys have an advantage that you refuse to admit exists
.

So if you can not support yourself let alone a wife/children the solution is to get a girlfriend pregnant and then leave her on her own? Condoms are cheap.

Next the government will loan you the money to go to college no matter what your skin color happen to be.

As far as jobs I had have two black bosses in my career and any numbers of black co-workers.

Jobs that mostly required at least a two years degree and mostly a four years degree.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Fri 6 May, 2016 09:16 pm
@Lilkanyon,
Quote:
Having babies in their teens, no marriage, no dads in their lives...nothing to do with black/white inequality. Even a black woman, trying to talk about these issues was drowned out and shut down on mass media....noone wanted to hear it. As long as blacks play victim to the inequalities of American life, they have the power of protest and if you are ever critical, you are branded a racist


Quote:


http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_gendergap_universities.html

Black women are doing better then black men earning college degrees at roughly double the rate of black men.

Black Women Students Far Outnumber Black Men at the Nation's Highest-Ranked Universities

The wide gender gap that prevails at all stages of African-American higher education extends to the student bodies at our nation's highest-ranked universities. But in most cases the gap is smaller than the national average.

JBHE has consistently documented the fact that black women hold a large lead over black men in almost every facet of higher education. Black women currently earn about two thirds of all African-American bachelor's degree awards, 70 percent of all master's degrees, and more than 60 percent of all doctorates. Black women also hold a majority of all African-American enrollments in law, medical, and dental schools.

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cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 6 May, 2016 09:23 pm
@Lilkanyon,
Don't you also think that the reason blacks have those difficulties are directly related to the handicaps they experience in the white world?
As an Asian American, I believe that to be some of the problem.
 

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