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@Builder,

Legally speaking there is no such thing as a close call when it comes to defining fraud. Throwing out legal terms you don't understand doesn't make it happen that she is being investigated for fraud.

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@snood,

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You said she is being investigated for fraud. She is not.

Oh, yes she is, and it's not the first time. Her history alone should preclude her from any nomination, but she's the oligarch's choice, so it's highly probable that they'll clear the path, no matter what she's done.

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@parados,

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

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You said she is being investigated for fraud. She is not.

Oh, yes she is, and it's not the first time. Her history alone should preclude her from any nomination, but she's the oligarch's choice, so it's highly probable that they'll clear the path, no matter what she's done.

Oh, no she isn't. Just because you say she's being investigated for fraud doesn't make it true. She isn't getting "selected" or "coronated" either. That's just more rightwing nutcase babble. She's winning the most votes and the most contested delegates. She's going to get most of Bernie's voters, and then she's going to beat that gaudy buffoon Trump. And you and all the Hillary haters can spin your tall tales until you turn into little pools of bitter bile, or you can like it, or you can lump it.

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@snood,

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She's winning the most votes and the most contested delegates.

Which means what exactly? These "delegates" don't even care what the people want. You honestly think that has anything to do with democracy?

You may not get the same "news" that the rest of the planet has access to, and I can understand why that happens.

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Hillary Clinton has been accused of orchestrating voter fraud during Arizona’s Democratic primary vote on Tuesday, as thousands of voters have complained that their votes were unknowingly changed to independent – preventing them from voting for Democratic rival Bernie Sanders.

Authorities have announced an official investigation into claims that the Clinton campaign were part of a vote rigging scandal to prevent Bernie Sanders from winning the State.

Article here.

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

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She's winning the most votes and the most contested delegates.

Which means what exactly? These "delegates" don't even care what the people want. You honestly think that has anything to do with democracy?

You may not get the same "news" that the rest of the planet has access to, and I can understand why that happens.

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Hillary Clinton has been accused of orchestrating voter fraud during Arizona’s Democratic primary vote on Tuesday, as thousands of voters have complained that their votes were unknowingly changed to independent – preventing them from voting for Democratic rival Bernie Sanders.

Authorities have announced an official investigation into claims that the Clinton campaign were part of a vote rigging scandal to prevent Bernie Sanders from winning the State.

Article here.

Because it says in print that "Hillary is accused", and because you can produce some jacklegged rag (what the HELL is yournewswire?) that says "Authorities say", that's supposed to pass as the "news the rest of the world is seeing"? You can beat on your disgruntled drums for another couple of months Bunkie, then you're going to have to come back to the world. Enjoy the bern.

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@snood,

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....and because you can produce some jacklegged rag....

Well, you posted a pie-chart supposedly indicating voter preferences for the whole nation, when in fact, it was two years old, and the demographic only covered 1,000 "likely voters", but you assumed that you'd found something factual, and posted it as such.

Talk about your jacklegged rags..... indeed. :-)

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

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....and because you can produce some jacklegged rag....

Well, you posted a pie-chart supposedly indicating voter preferences for the whole nation, when in fact, it was two years old, and the demographic only covered 1,000 "likely voters", but you assumed that you'd found something factual, and posted it as such.

Talk about your jacklegged rags..... indeed. :-)

I'll match research skills with you any day pardner. I have the advantage of actually being able to operate in verifiable facts like the math that seems to befuddle you Bernie people.
You can have the last word since it seems like it's important to you. Peace.

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@snood,

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I have the advantage of actually being able to operate in verifiable facts like the math that seems to befuddle you Bernie people.

Yeah, those pie charts sure are pretty.

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@Builder,

Builder wrote:

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You said she is being investigated for fraud. She is not.

Oh, yes she is,

Oh, no she isn't.

(It's your job to provide evidence of what you are claiming unless you want to continue your childish tantrum.)

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@Builder,

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I have the advantage of actually being able to operate in verifiable facts like the math that seems to befuddle you Bernie people.

Yeah, those pie charts sure are pretty.

You're still whistlin' in the dark. What about this math? As of yesterday morning, Hillary needs 231 delegates to clinch the nomination.

Bernie needs 1,044. That means Bernie needs 82% of the remaining delegates. Hillary is currently leading in polling in California, NJ and DC which makes up over 1/2 of the remaining delegates.

Even if you only look at the pledged delegates, Bernie needs 65% of those to have the majority of the pledged delegates.

There is no way at this point that Bernie can win the nomination and no way he will have the most pledged delegates. The only way he can win is to get 90% or more of delegates in Indiana, Oregon, Kentucky and West Virginia. He still hasn't won a primary state other than Vermont with more than 60% of the vote. (thanks to Parados)

What's your delusional yet still snide comment about that, hero?

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@Builder,

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the demographic only covered 1,000 "likely voters", but you assumed that you'd found something factual, and posted it as such.

1,000 likely voters tends to be pretty close to actual when those 1,000 are selected in a random fashion.

The last poll in NY only polled 438 likely voters and it predicted a win by Clinton of 16 points. She won by 17.

If you understood statistics, you wouldn't make such idiotic statements about the demographic only covering 1,000 likely voters. Polls have a margin of error. They list the margin of error if they are done correctly. They also tend to be within that margin of error 95% of the time. It's how polling works when the math is done correctly.

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It's all about priorities. To folks like Builder, as far as this campaign is concerned, math isn't as important as "momentum". Counted votes aren't as important as angry social media weirdo theories. Getting a Democrat in office with the best chance of promoting and achieving a progressive agenda is not as important as blathering sour grape accusations and hanging on to the myth of a perfect pure candidate.

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We had all better pay attention (as in beware)to Donald Trump's political strategist, Paul Manafort.
He's the one who orchestrated Trump's just-sensible-enough-foreign-policy-speech; he's the one who probably suggested Trump get Bobby Knight to make a very public endorsement in Indiana. You remember "Bush's Brain" - Karl Rove? Well, Manafort is smarter, more ruthless, and determined that our next president be Donald Trump.

The Quiet American

Paul Manafort made a career out of stealthily reinventing the world’s nastiest tyrants as noble defenders of freedom. Getting Donald Trump elected will be a cinch.

Some saw the hiring of Manafort as desperate, as Trump reaching for a relic from the distant past in the belated hope of compensating for a haphazard campaign infrastructure. In fact, securing Manafort was a coup. He is among the most significant political operatives of the past 40 years, and one of the most effective. He has revolutionized lobbying several times over, though he self-consciously refrains from broadcasting his influence.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/04/paul_manafort_isn_t_a_gop_retread_he_s_made_a_career_of_reinventing_tyrants.html

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Her's some interesting info for all those "anyone but Hillary" folks out there. Consider that John Boehner (who knows Cruz pretty well) thinks Cruz is the spawn of Satan. Just so we all have a clear picture of the Republican choices as alternatives to Hillary.

Boehner: Ted Cruz Is ‘Lucifer in the Flesh’ and a ‘Miserable Son of a Bitch’

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/28/boehner-ted-cruz-is-lucifer-in-the-flesh-and-a-miserable-son-of-a-bitch.html

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Just in case there are some of us who are still having trouble believing that Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee (I'm struggling with it myself), here's further proof.

GOP Leaders Are Preparing to Submit to Donald Trump
Some Republican National Committee members say they're starting to accept Trump will be their nominee.

Following Donald Trump's overwhelming victory last week in his home state of New York and his impressive sweep across five East Coast states on Tuesday, Republican Party leaders may be finally reaching the final stage of Trump grief: acceptance that the real estate mogul is likely to be their presidential nominee. Some GOP insiders are even coming to terms with the distinct possibility that the primary race may not reach an open convention and that Trump may well bag the necessary 1,237 delegates to win the nomination, according to two Republican National Committee members.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/gop-leaders-coming-terms-donald-trump-nomination

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@snood,

Even more reason for people to get out and campaign for all of their local/regional downballot Democratic candidates.

Get the Democratic vote out!

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@snood,

Trump will be their nominee. You can bank on it.

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@cicerone imposter,

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Trump will be their nominee. You can bank on it.

Yeah...that's what I've been saying for the last two pages... you ever feel like you're restating the obvious?

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@ehBeth,

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Get the Democratic vote out!

Its more important than which Democrat is in the White House. Many, many times more important.

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