@cicerone imposter,
It amazes me he received 12% of the black vote. (wish there was another way to word it)
@BillRM,
It looks like we posted nearly the same time with the same message. I imagine most people are amazed at that 12%.
Not sure why CI addressed it to me in particular in any case. Don't have an emoticon for shrugging.
@BillRM,
That doesn't surprise me. Trump has been attacking Hispanics pretty hard and that will earn him some small support in the Black community, especially among Republicans.
@engineer,
I'm Asian, and Trump lost my vote with his bigotry and xenophobia.
Uh-Oh: Where Does All the White Rage Go When Donald Trump Loses?
They're too angry to sit still. Too many to ignore. But too few to elect a president. Where do they go after Trump?
By Michael Bourne / Salon
April 1, 2016
For all Donald Trump’s dark pronouncements about immigrants and Muslims and the sporadic fistfights at his rallies, the Republican front runner has so far channeled the rage and fear felt by his constituents into an election campaign. Violence is never far from the surface at a Trump rally, and as has happened with sickening regularity in recent weeks, it occasionally breaks through in wild sucker punches and outright beatings of protesters, but the goal of the Trump campaign could not be more conventionally political: to propel its candidate to the Republican Party nomination, and from there, to the presidency.
But what happens when his campaign fails, as it almost certainly will? Trump is openly at war with his own party, and even if that badly splintered organization magically unites behind him after the convention, there simply are not enough angry white people in America to elect him president. Where will all that anger, which has been slowly building among America’s white working class for half a century, go once it is left without a viable political outlet?
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In the months since Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has shifted from amusing diversion to cold political reality, the narrative favored by America’s political and media elite has been one of chickens coming home to roost. The Republican Party, the story goes, having for too long cynically played upon the ignorance and fears of its white lower-middle class base to gain the votes to pass ever more lavish tax breaks for its wealthy donor class, has had its electorate stolen by a clownish billionaire willing to say in plain English what Republican leaders have for decades been communicating to their constituents only in whispers and dog whistles.
This narrative is true, of course, but in the telling, the focus invariably falls on Trump, who is portrayed as a shameless but politically astute demagogue in the mold of Louisiana’s Huey Long or Alabama’s George Wallace, able to sniff out deep wounds in the body politic others have missed and transform them into votes. But this is absurd. For all his bluster, Trump is at best a mediocre politician. He has no core political philosophy, he rambles at the podium, and quails at even the mildest questioning from the press. Half the time, he doesn’t even seem that interested in the office he’s running for. The night he won the Florida primary, knocking the home-state Senator Marco Rubio out of the race and cementing his position as his party’s front runner, Trump spent much of his prime-time televised speech touting his eponymous line of steaks and wines.
Trump is the P.T. Barnum of 21st-century American politics, a gifted impresario able to spot a sucker a mile off, but he isn’t the phenomenon we should be watching this spring. His constituency is. Lower-middle class white voters from the Rust Belt and South have fallen under the sway of Republican leaders for more than half a century now. In some cases, those Republicans were brilliant politicians like Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Just as often, though, white working class voters pulled the lever for empty suits like Mitt Romney and George W. Bush.
What changed, then, in 2016? It wasn’t the Republican Party’s strategy or the quality of the candidates it put forward. Jeb Bush, with his jaunty exclamation point and famous last name, was a more substantive version of his twice-elected younger brother, and Ted Cruz has the sweaty, aggrievement-fueled intensity of a young Richard Nixon. In any other election cycle, one of them, most likely Jeb Bush, would be honing his acceptance speech by now.
That didn’t happen this year because lower-middle class white Americans are hurting as they never have before. No group, after all, has been hit harder by globalization than the white working class in the Rust Belt and South. Drug addiction, long considered an “urban” (read: African American) scourge, is spreading through white society, especially in rural areas and former industrial hubs. A recent study by a pair of Princeton researchers found that, alone among all cohorts of Americans, the death rate for white middle-class people has been rising, thanks to spikes in alcoholism, drug overdose, and suicide.
It’s easy to argue that working-class white Americans have no one to blame for their predicament but themselves. For generations, white people were favored in virtually every area of American life. Then, thanks in part to liberal legislation and court rulings, America became more color-blind and meritocratic, while at the same time free-trade agreements helped push factories overseas, hollowing out whole towns. The wiser children of factory workers got an education and joined the information economy. Those who stuck it out in the industrial heartland hoping the mid-century American gravy train would return instead got left behind.
This, obviously, is not how Trump’s white working-class constituency sees it. They blame 1960s-era legislation and court rulings for promoting the interests of minorities and immigrants over their own, just as they blame the free-trade policies of both parties for sending their jobs offshore. Their economic power waning and their social status under threat, they lash out at the minorities and immigrants themselves, fearful that these once lower-caste workers are fast climbing past them on the ladder of American society.
Ultimately, though, whether one views Trump’s supporters as victims of American progress or as a bunch of overprivileged bigots matters less than the undeniable facts that they exist and there a lot of them and they are stuck. Having lost faith in the traditional Republican Party, they have pinned their hopes on Donald Trump, but even if Trump could deliver the jobs and self-respect they seek—a doubtful proposition, to say the least—they lack the numbers to make him president. So, then what? All that highly combustible anger and fear we’re seeing on the nightly news and in shaky YouTube videos shot at Trump rallies—where will it go once Trump is gone?
We may already be getting a chilling preview of a possible post-Trump future in the spasms of seemingly random gun violence such as those at the Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs and the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston. Neither of these alleged shooters has been brought to trial and there is much we do not know, but what is clear that we are in the midst of an unprecedented epidemic of mass shootings, a disturbing number of which seem to be carried out recently by emotionally troubled white men harboring right-wing views.
For a generation, gun advocates have defended the right to bear arms as a check against tyranny, and for just as long liberals have dismissed this as a melodramatic talking point. But what if we take them at their word, and accept that it is possible we are witnessing the opening phase of a still-inchoate violent uprising by a broad class of Americans, who, ignored politically, bypassed economically, and dismissed socially, are beginning take matters into their own hands?
What if, in other words, Donald Trump isn’t an aberration created by the miscalculations of a party elite, but the political expression of a much deeper, and more dangerous, frustration among a very large, well-armed segment of our population? What if Trump isn’t a proto-Mussolini, but rather a regrettably short finger in the dike holding back a flood of white violence and anger this country hasn’t seen since the long economic boom of the 1950s and ’60s helped put an end to the Jim Crow era?
One way or another, we’re going to find out soon. Trump made headlines when he suggested his supporters would riot if he were denied the nomination despite his lead in the delegate count. Even if we are spared that spectacle, the Trump era will almost certainly come to an end by November. And then we will be left with the naked fact of his followers, too few in number to affect meaningful change on their own, too numerous for the rest of us to ignore, too angry to sit still for long.
@bobsal u1553115,
Interesting question concerning 'white rage' put given that no one alive today is likely to remember when there was large as in major cities white riots unlike the black community I would not worry over white rage.
In fact middle size southern cities had not seen white rage since the 1950s.
@BillRM,
When you have political power, you don't have to get your hands dirty in the streets.
@Lash,
Quote:When you have political power, you don't have to get your hands dirty in the streets.
LOL so riots are only allowed if you do not have the political power so how come the black citizens of Ferguson riot as they was well over fifty percents of the voting age citizens?
Yes they could not be trouble to vote in the elections and instead of getting off their rear ends once every few years to vote they have fun doing no credit or money shopping perhaps?
@Lash,
Once more they had the ability to completely control that town and the police department for that matter so why the riots?
It not the fault of the non-blacks if they did not come out to vote or run their own candidates for that matter.
@BillRM,
The white power structure is a hard room to get into... but Deray McKesson is running for mayor now, so hopefully out of the streets and into the state house
EDIT: My bad. Deray's running in Baltimore. Not sure anyone stood up for Ferguson. So, I guess we'll be seeing the brothers in the streets until somebody gets their nerves up. (and their war chest...)
@Lash,
So they are not willing to operate within the system even when if they did so they would have complete control of the town and the police as there is no such thing as a white power structure that can survive a black population with overwhelming voting power that go to the polls.
@BillRM,
The colonies couldn't operate within the British system.
No, disenfranchised people don't have a chance with the odds and the rules stacked against them. So they go for what they know.
Once we eradicate the barriers that have kept people unfairly oppressed, the streets can be a place for neighborhood stickball.
BTW, Bill. I'm not thumbing you down.
@Lash,
I think he's used to it. It's not me, either.
@Lash,
What rules in the year 2016 would keep any group from exercising their voting rights in the US?
@BillRM,
I'm sure you know about Jim Crow laws that made it impossible for blacks to vote. I can hear you say - that was then, this is now.
And if that was true, I'd have nothing to say. But it has never been eradicated. Black Americans have never experienced a level playing field.
Never.
http://prospect.org/article/22-states-wave-new-voting-restrictions-threatens-shift-outcomes-tight-races
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/with-voting-rights-act-out-states-push-voter-id-laws/
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The problems in Ferguson don't come simply from the fact that a majority African-American community is governed by white folks, and the police force only has 3 black officers out of a total force of 56. No, those problems also are a direct byproduct of low voter registration and turnout in off-year elections.
Toss in poverty and white flight as factors and you've got suburban unrest, an out-of-control police presence, and riots.
Republican Party Director Matt Wills thinks registering voters in the middle of the storm is "fanning the political flames." Let that sink in.
From:
https://democracychronicles.com/racially-based-voter-suppression/
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I'm not trying to win an argument, but why the hell do you think blacks are where they are? Inferiority? Laziness?
@Lash,
Give me a break since at least the last 50 years there is nothing to stop blacks or anyone else from exercising their rights in the US so there is zero excused to take to the street instead of the voting booth.
Quote:No, those problems also are a direct byproduct of low voter registration and turnout in off-year elections.
If the black population do not care enough to register to vote then it is strange that they care enough to send their young people into harm way instead!!!!!!
Hell it is likely that they could fired the whole police department and turn over the policing to the county or some such as had happen more then once in my part of the nation.