roger
 
  1  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 12:12 am
@Olivier5,
Repukes?


FROG
Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 01:18 am
@roger,
Republicans.
roger
 
  2  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 01:39 am
@Olivier5,
I understood that much.
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 05:45 am
JACK SHAFER

Quote:
The press can’t get Trump right because they have so little experience reporting on demagogues. Reporters believe that if they lay out a demagogue’s contradictions, quote people who cringe at what he has said or compile lists of his despicable utterance, that the demagogue will sink under his own weight.
Nuh-uh. The modern American demagogue—I’m thinking Huey Long, Father Charles Coughlin, Strom Thurmond, Joseph McCarthy, George Wallace, and Pat Buchanan—is more resilient than that. Or I should say that the demagogues’ faithful cannot not be easily persuaded to abandon their leader once they adopt him. If anything, establishment attacks on a demagogue only stiffen the loyalties of his subjects, proving to them that he is telling truth to power. The demagogue’s formula, which can vary, tends to simplify all politics and policy to single irrefutable talking points. In Trump’s case, he reliably heralds himself as a “smart” man who can solve problems the “stupid” people of Washington can’t by the pure force of his own will.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/dont-write-trumps-obit-yet-121232.html#ixzz3iVQ8BlBP


Decent points, though journalists are stupid about most things, and biased. And trump does remind me a lot of Wallace, I had not realized that till now.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  0  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 07:04 am
@ehBeth,
Nate Silver has a good track record and I don't think anybody ran away with the GOP debacle ... er .. debate. I'm listening to him because he makes sense. But he is a pollster and I still don't understand how he pulls so much trend out of what we call polls today.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 08:10 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 08:23 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 08:25 am
Staffers at conservative website claim Trump is paying them for good press

by
Hunter

http://www.dailykos.com/main/2

Donald Trump gives a thumbs up as he arrives onstage to address the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Oxon Hill, Maryland, March 6, 2014. REUTERS/Mike Theiler  
attribution: REUTERS
I ... I don't know what to believe anymore.
According to BuzzFeed, some Breitbart staffers think something's fishy about their "news" site's glowing coverage of presidential candidate and walking professional parody Donald Trump. And by "fishy," I mean they straight-up claim the site is being paid off by Trump.

According to four sources with knowledge of the situation, editors and writers at the outlet have privately complained since at least last year that the company’s top management was allowing Trump to turn Breitbart into his own fan website — using it to hype his political prospects and attack his enemies. One current editor called the water-carrying “despicable” and “embarrassing,” and said he was told by an executive last year that the company had a financial arrangement with Trump. [...] Additionally, a conservative communications operative who works closely with Breitbart described conversations in which “multiple writers and editors” said Trump was paying for the ability to shape coverage, and added that one staffer claimed to have seen documentation of the “pay for play.”

Executive chairman Steve Bannon denies the charge, though boasts that he does "personally talk with many of the candidates and their senior staffers often."

So here's the challenge. The site responsible for Every Conspiracy Theory Conservatives Go On About, the happy little place where ACORN still lies in wait, Barack Obama's secret Kenyan birth certificate is always days away from being discovered, the place where Sarah Palin goes to write that it's time to impeach Obama for reals, the place that single-handedly made doctored videotape a cornerstone of the modern conservative press and the source of half of everything you might hear on Fox & Friends has current staff members complaining of a conspiracy within their very halls.

On the one hand, it's Breitbart, so it's certainly a very plausible accusation. On the other hand, the people who are claiming this ... work for Breitbart, so it's almost certainly complete hokum?

Wow. This isn't just your everyday paradox. This is the sort of paradox Captain Kirk would use to break a computer so that it stayed broke. It's the riddle posed by the ancient guardian of a legendary treasure. It's the conspiracy theory equivalent of dividing by zero twice.
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Olivier5
 
  1  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 08:31 am
@roger,
I'm aware there are still a few decent republicans left out there. The party's leadership and candidates since at least W give me cause to vomit, though.
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edgarblythe
 
  2  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 08:41 am
A note to Roger: I think there is a substantial number of Republicans who are decent people. On the other hand, the rolls of both parties are diminishing. So, the ratio of decent sorts in both parties could be diminishing, depending on your take.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 08:57 am
@edgarblythe,
I've just about left the GOP and am going Green Party.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 09:00 am
Trump: ‘I Am a Fabulous Whiner’
Source: TDB/CNN

Presidential hopeful Donald Trump admitted he was an inveterate whiner during an interview on CNN Tuesday. “I am the most fabulous whiner. I do whine because I want to win. And I’m not happy if I’m not winning,” he said. “I’m a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win.” Trump also told CNN’s Chris Cuomo that he hasn’t abandoned his threat to run as a third-party candidate if he doesn’t win the Republican nomination. “I want to keep that door open,” he said. He also appeared on Fox & Friends, his first appearance on Fox News since the Republican presidential debate last week. Trump later ducked questions from Cuomo about whether he struck a deal with Roger Ailes to avoid mentioning Megyn Kelly. He said he has “no problems” with the TV network.

Read it at CNN

###




Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/08/11/trump-doubles-down-on-3rd-party-threat.html
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parados
 
  1  
Tue 11 Aug, 2015 01:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Silver is not a pollster. He is a statistician. He looks at the polls of others and runs statistics compared to previous races and polls to come up with probabilities.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Wed 12 Aug, 2015 05:55 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 12 Aug, 2015 07:27 pm
'Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican' ... by George Will

By George F. Will

In every town large enough to have two traffic lights there is a bar at the back of which sits the local Donald Trump, nursing his fifth beer and innumerable delusions. Because the actual Donald Trump is wealthy, he can turn himself into an unprecedentedly and incorrigibly vulgar presidential candidate. It is his right to use his riches as he pleases. His squalid performance and its coarsening of civic life are costs of freedom that an open society must be prepared to pay.

When, however, Trump decided that his next acquisition would be not another casino but the Republican presidential nomination, he tactically and quickly underwent many conversions of convenience (concerning abortion, health care, funding Democrats, etc.). His makeover demonstrates that he is a counterfeit Republican and no conservative.

He is an affront to anyone devoted to the project William F. Buckley began six decades ago with the founding in 1955 of the National Review — making conservatism intellectually respectable and politically palatable. Buckley’s legacy is being betrayed by invertebrate conservatives now saying that although Trump “goes too far,” he has “tapped into something,” and therefore. . . .

Therefore what? This stance — if a semi-grovel can be dignified as a stance — is a recipe for deserved disaster. Remember, Henry Wallace and Strom Thurmond “tapped into” things.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-counterfeit-republican/2015/08/12/c28c2968-4052-11e5-bfe3-ff1d8549bfd2_story.html
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Aug, 2015 07:51 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Sanders is a counterfeit D. It would be great to get them head to head.
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McGentrix
 
  -1  
Wed 12 Aug, 2015 08:52 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

Let him run as an independent. That will ruin the republicans chances for good.

I was thinking the same with Bernie Sanders. Let's have a 4 candidate election.
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edgarblythe
 
  3  
Wed 12 Aug, 2015 09:35 pm
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hawkeye10
 
  0  
Thu 13 Aug, 2015 05:22 am
Quote:
Rand Paul is doing so poorly in the polls he has to revert to old footage of me discussing positions I no longer hold. As a world-class businessman, who built one of the great companies with some of the most iconic real estate assets in the world, it was my obligation to my family, my company, my employees and myself to maintain a strong relationship with all politicians whether Republican or Democrat. I did that and I did that well.

Unless you are a piece of unyielding granite, over the years positions evolve as they have in my case. Ronald Reagan, as an example, was a Democrat with a liberal bent who became a conservative Republican.

Recently, Rand Paul called me and asked me to play golf. I easily beat him on the golf course and will even more easily beat him now, in the world in the politics.

Senator Paul does not mention that after trouncing him in golf I made a significant donation to the eye center with which he is affiliated.

I feel sorry for the great people of Kentucky who are being used as a back up to Senator Paul’s hopeless attempt to become President of the United States--- weak on the military, Israel, the Vets and many other issues. Senator Paul has no chance of wining the nomination and the people of Kentucky should not allow him the privilege of remaining their Senator. Rand should save his lobbyist’s and special interest money and just go quietly home.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/12/new-rand-paul-video-basically-calls-donald-trump-a-closet-democrat/

classic trump
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Fri 14 Aug, 2015 10:22 am
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