cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 11:30 am
@H2O MAN,
waterboy, You "never" provide anything of value on any topic; your meme is worthless drivel. Why don't you grow up and provide opinions about the topic rather than your constant ad hominems?

Your mental capacity is that of a teenager. Grow up!
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 11:41 am
@cicerone imposter,

impostergirl, it is you that lacks intelligence and it is you that needs to grow up.
That said, you have never had an original thought in your entire pathetic life... why start now?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 12:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
waterboy, You "never" provide anything of value on any topic; your meme is worthless drivel.
Why don't you grow up and provide opinions about the topic rather than your constant ad hominems?

Your mental capacity is that of a teenager. Grow up!
Your post reflects and expresses your OWN nature, Imposter.
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Fido
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 01:06 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Nothing good has come from the democrats in many years, but the dumbmasses keep voting for dems
thus proving what everyone knows - democrats appeal to the least intelligent, most ignorant Americans.
You cannot stop people from voting out of their view of their self interest, and if the republican party reflected that interest, I am certain they would have all the votes the democrats git today, and lose all the republican votes just as soon...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 02:22 pm
@Fido,
Fido, waterboy only uses ad hominems and never provides anything that even touches on the topic under discussion. His teenager posts will never grow to any level of intelligent discourse.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 02:39 pm
The following was taken from a NYT article; the GOP is playing chicken again to win some concessions from Obama, but they will create a world financial crisis if the debt ceiling is not approved. The irony in all this is that many of them will be personally harmed by their tactic.

Quote:
In short, this as close as you can get in American politics to mutually assured destruction. No matter how Machiavellian your outlook, it’s very hard to make the case that any politician with a significant amount of power would become more powerful in the event of a debt default. They also would be harmed personally, since many Congressmen have significant investments in credit, stock or housing markets, all of which would be adversely affected.


I guess their next strategy is suicide (bombing).
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 06:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
There you go insulting teenagers again CI! Next you will pick on kentergarden kids. Compare him to rocks, I never liked rocks all that much.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 11 Apr, 2011 06:46 pm
@RABEL222,
How about stones? Water does round them out a bit - over long periods of time.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 12:53 am
@cicerone imposter,
Good enough!!!
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Fido
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 06:18 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Fido, waterboy only uses ad hominems and never provides anything that even touches on the topic under discussion. His teenager posts will never grow to any level of intelligent discourse.
The only reason I tolerate him is because I need him... As long as we are divided on every issue and along racial and sexual lines we will never manage to improve our situation... I do not doubt that we will always have disagreements... My object is to find points of agreement so we may put aside our differences long enough to change this society... We can always fall out later, and likely will, and the liberals have the disdvantage of eschewing violence and having no guns... If life depends upon it they will change... All change is an attempt at problem solving, but it helps to know what is the actual problem.... In the mean time, since we have the time to talk, let us talk... Language should reflect thought, and usual does though people may want what they reveal to remain hidden, even from themselves... I want to know what is on the minds of those I suppose I dispise...
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 07:20 am
I tolerate you idiots (fIDO, cYCLO, pOM, iMPOSTER etc...) because I find
you and your ilk entertaining, kind of like observing rats in a little maze.

You don't know what's going on or what you are doing and you fight when
you face each other. You are also tolerated because my snake is hungry.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 08:43 am
@H2O MAN,
Wow, three sentences, h2oboy! That must have put enormous strain on your little tiny brain.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 10:33 am
@Fido,
Fido, That would be true if they lived in reality, but they don't. They're still questioning Obama's birthplace. If you can succeed in changing their fantasy land creation on these boards, good luck to you. You'll need it, because you're working on an impossible task. Agreements? LOL
Fido
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 12:23 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

I tolerate you idiots (fIDO, cYCLO, pOM, iMPOSTER etc...) because I find
you and your ilk entertaining, kind of like observing rats in a little maze.

You don't know what's going on or what you are doing and you fight when
you face each other. You are also tolerated because my snake is hungry.
You hear that everybody... This nut thinks I have Ilk... I have no Ilk, and I am not sure I would want any Ilk even if I thought I could afford them... I am happy you find us amazing.... As an amature herpitologist, I would recommend caution since many a rat has made a meal of a snake that thought he might make a meal of him... If you consider for a moment how primitive are snakes compared to rats, then you might not color yourself with such an old brush... The rats are here to stay more certainly than snakes or humans... The snake survives on fortune, and the rat by finess... Feel free to class me with the rats any day... They are survivors... They would never do anything half so crazy as cutting the guts out of the government that defends all their rights for such a petty price as taxes...
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Fido
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 12:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Fido, That would be true if they lived in reality, but they don't. They're still questioning Obama's birthplace. If you can succeed in changing their fantasy land creation on these boards, good luck to you. You'll need it, because you're working on an impossible task. Agreements? LOL
I am counting on them and their kind pushing this country into revolution which is the last thing they want... Consider how much they have going their way, and it is not good enough for them only because they have not thought things out... They have a narrow focus and are short sighted... They are like the South before the civil war that had everything going their way, except for the changing demographics of the country... The more they won the more hardened bacame the opposition, and instead of watching the slow decline of slavery they hastened it to a sudden disaster... The rich are hustling the last of the middle classes because their success means the rich can one day more avoid paying for the protection they receive... Mr. Obama would not have been elected if there were not a lot of counter conservative feeling... The reactionaries are winning, but with every victory they push themselves close to a final defeat... They have not got enough people to be successful in revolution, and neither do we... But their sort of revolution, unthoughtout, ill advised, and without merit may be the very sort of push we all need to change our forms... Then; we should at least try to find cause for peace, and common ground before, during, and after the fact... The essential agreement in any nation is missing from ours... What are they going to do??? Will they kill anyone who does not agreee with them??? What will we do??? Because to be a nation we must find agreement; consensus, really... They are the only ones nutty enough to start something... In spite of their superior morals, the liberals rationally accept the value of government as an ideal, and the right from a practical stand point knows that if it does not work for them it does not work... Only the right, though they are wrong -have the nerve to really consider revolution... We should paick up some banners and pretend to support them...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 12:58 pm
@Fido,
In my reality, I support the "real" conservative goals of less government, but what the GOP is doing to this country is playing politics mixed in with religion; a dangerous game. They talk about "right to life," but how they handle that issue is to kill everything that is also good like Planned Parenthood. They are aggressive in their actions that play well to the core extremists of the party, and they believe in fiction more than the reality of their play book. Look at all those republican governors who are trying to kill public unions, and how the GOP is now working to destroy Medicare and and Medicaid. It's as if there aren't any conservatives who survive on Medicare and Medicaid, social security, or our educational system to give bigger tax breaks to those who already own 71% of this country's wealth.

They still seem to get their party's support, and that is the big 64 thousand dollar question; why?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 02:36 pm
Quote:
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
Bad news for Congressional Republicans
PPP's newest national poll finds that after a little more than 3 months in charge House Republicans have fallen so far out of favor with the American public that it's entirely possible Democrats could take control of the House back next year.

43% of voters think that House Republicans are doing a worse job now than the Democrats did, compared to only 36% who think the GOP has brought an improvement. 19% think things are about the same. 62% of voters thinking that the Republicans have either made things worse or brought no improvement to an already unpopular Congress does not bode particularly well for the party.

46% of voters say that if there was an election for Congress today they would vote Democratic, compared to only 41% who would vote Republican. That five point advantage for Democrats is only a hair below the margin Republicans won by in the national popular vote last year. A victory of that magnitude for the Democrats next year would at the very least result in the party taking back a large number of the seats it lost last year, and it could be enough to take back the outright majority- hard to say at this point without knowing how good a number the GOP can do in redistricting.

The key to this strong movement back toward the Democrats right now is the same as the key to the strong movement away from the Democrats last year- fickle independents quickly growing unhappy with the party in power. Exit polls showed independents supporting the GOP by a 19 point margin last year at 56-37. Now only 30% of those voters think that the Republican controlled House is moving things in the right direction, compared to 44% who think things were better with the Democrats. Given those numbers it's not much of a surprise that independents now say they'd vote Democratic for the House by a 42-33 margin if these was an election today, representing a 28 point reversal in a span of just five months.

These poll numbers also point to the reality that Republicans taking control of the House may have been one of the best things that could possibly have happened for Obama's reelection prospects. Although we found the President with slightly negative approval numbers on this poll, when asked whether they had more faith in Obama or Congressional Republicans to lead the country in the right direction 48% of voters picked Obama to only 42% who went with Congressional Republicans. Voters may not love Obama as once they did but they're finding him to be more reasonable than the alternative and that means it will be hard for the GOP to knock him off next year without a top notch nominee.

One thing is very much for certain- it's not 2010 anymore.


http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2011/04/bad-news-for-congressional-republicans.html

Cycloptichorn
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Fido
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 06:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

In my reality, I support the "real" conservative goals of less government, but what the GOP is doing to this country is playing politics mixed in with religion; a dangerous game. They talk about "right to life," but how they handle that issue is to kill everything that is also good like Planned Parenthood. They are aggressive in their actions that play well to the core extremists of the party, and they believe in fiction more than the reality of their play book. Look at all those republican governors who are trying to kill public unions, and how the GOP is now working to destroy Medicare and and Medicaid. It's as if there aren't any conservatives who survive on Medicare and Medicaid, social security, or our educational system to give bigger tax breaks to those who already own 71% of this country's wealth.

They still seem to get their party's support, and that is the big 64 thousand dollar question; why?
This is a country founded on revolution, and revolution is the true conservative value; and it is no fault of ours that the goals of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness are so far from attained in this country and in the world.. You must certainly understand the difference between reaction and revolution, and those who support reaction would out of ignorance pull a black bag over the heads of all of humanity and bring an age of darkness and hoplessness into every life... No one is ignorant by choice... Ignorance is a curse to the ignorant and to those who must suffer them; but ignorance has been so long preached as faith and loyalty that those who suffer it cannot tell truth, or judge reality fairly... What does it matter to me if we must settle our disputes with violence and bloodshed, except for the fact that the right is prepared to kill all liberals, and the liberals are little prepared to defend themselves... As much as the right likes to compare liberals to idiots, it is the liberal who are generally more educated and intelligent, and who as a consequence see the futility in violence...

The problem is that we were never a made nation, and that those who would exploit us find our division essential to their success, and so they feed that division at every opportunity... We do not have do live in fear and hatred of most of the right... They only need to see that our needs are the same, our rights are the same, and that we will defend ourselves from slander as well as from violence... They think they can blow through us like grass through a goose... The South thought as much before the civil war... We is just going to stand fast, and learn 'em....

You have to remember that the great victory of the Civil War was in our mutual respect for each other... We found we were tough and resourceful... There was damned little respect on either side before the civil war, and perhaps too much respect for the South after, since they were left alone to go about their business... And we are getting that way again, of having too little respect and too much enmity... We have got to consider what things might look like here after the true believers nuke the cities for making too many demands for food and rescources... We have to consider what this place might look like after the next inevitable civil war that will come sooner than later because we have lost the ability to resolve our differences... Remember that our government is powerless to change itself, and is deadlocked, and is without will or purpose save self survival...

This people, if we will be some day a nation -must throw of all partisanship, and eliminate the parties, and commit once again to a true democracy that seeks consensus... We are so far now from that step, and near the mis- step when we think the death of a single offending individual will resolve anything... They live in fear of a John Brown who can strike with ease at the heart of evil, and we need a John Brown who can see things as they are, and dare to say what he sees... This place is a powder magazine waiting for a match to send it all to hell.. It does not really matter how many weapons they possess... They must wilt before the truth, IF it can be presented to them as it is, and with respect...
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 08:42 pm
@Fido,
cicerone imposter wrote:
In my reality, I support the "real" conservative goals of less government, but what the GOP is doing to this country is playing politics mixed in with religion; a dangerous game. They talk about "right to life," but how they handle that issue is to kill everything that is also good like Planned Parenthood. They are aggressive in their actions that play well to the core extremists of the party, and they believe in fiction more than the reality of their play book. Look at all those republican governors who are trying to kill public unions, and how the GOP is now working to destroy Medicare and and Medicaid. It's as if there aren't any conservatives who survive on Medicare and Medicaid, social security, or our educational system to give bigger tax breaks to those who already own 71% of this country's wealth.

They still seem to get their party's support, and that is the big 64 thousand dollar question; why?
Fido wrote:
This is a country founded on revolution, and revolution is the true conservative value;
Yes; the right of revolution (the same as the right to FIRE an unsatisfactory employee) is among conservative values.
More than anything else: it is personal freedom.





David
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2011 08:56 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
The right to fire an employee is a conservative value? God, you're more confused than okie.
 

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