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I Am Outraged and You Should Be Too!

 
 
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 04:14 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

I did look at your links and once more all violence crime in the US of any nature had been going down not up for the last ten years.

So whatever the current rate of child murders happen to be is beside the point the point is had it increase over the decades and the answer seem to be no it in fact had been going down not up.

The overall murder ratio is down in the last ten years and once more nothing in your links have given had challenge that.

There is not repeat no indication of any kind that child murder rate is increasing in the US either.

You had posted that it is your position that all these rates are increasing and I see zero in your link to show that is true.

Infants killing in China of girl are up but not in the US or any other Western country that I am aware of.




I have posted links showing an increase. I am posting them again. Check out the last one. No way you can deny the crime rate in the United States has increased greatly.

On the this link, in 1960 the murder rate was 4.6. In 2007, it was 5.9. That would be an increase in the murder rate.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0873729.html#axzz0x9gPhNju

On the this link, in 1965 there were 8,773 murder victims. In 2007, there were 14,831.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004888.html#axzz0x9j3CFQg

You do the math but no matter how many times you do the math, it adds up to an increase.

Like I said, if you have statistics showing what the murder rate, etc. was in 1950, 60, etc., I'd be more than willing to look at them but so far you haven't provided statistics.

This link should CLEARLY show you that every single crime listed on this chart shows a DRAMATIC increase in every one of the crimes listed on the chart.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

Here are two specific crimes:

1960 - Murders - 9,110
2008 - Murders - 16, 272

And how about forcible rape?

1960 - 17,190
2008 - 89,000

You do the math.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 04:38 pm
@Arella Mae,
Quote:
I have posted links showing an increase. I am posting them again. Check out the last one. No way you can deny the crime rate in the United States has increased greatly.


Crime is going down and had been for ten years or more!!!!

We are safer in the year 2010 then in the year 2000 by a very large margin and we are safer then we been since the crime rate blow up in the 70s and 80s

You do understand the concept of a decreasing rate do you not?

The overall murder rate is as low as it had been since 1965.

Sure you can still pick a point in the early 60s where it was lower however it had been dropping for over ten years and now had reach the 65 level for murders and the early 70s level for other crimes.

See all the links I had already given here or google the FBI or the CDC for that matter!!!!!!!!!

The crime rate went up in the 70s and 80s and been dropping since the middle 90s.





Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 04:47 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
I have posted links showing an increase. I am posting them again. Check out the last one. No way you can deny the crime rate in the United States has increased greatly.


NONSENSE Crime is going down and had been for ten years or more!!!!

The overall murder rate is as low as it had been since 1965.

See all the links I had already given here or google the FBI or the CDC for that matter!!!!!!!!!

The crime rate went up in the 70s and 80s and been dropping since the middle 90s like a rock.




Okay Bill, did you even bother to look at that last link that lists statistics of crimes of all sorts from 1960 to 2008 in the UNITED STATES? Kindly show me how that supports your overall murder rate is as low as it has been since 1965?

Murder Per 100,000 inhabitants:

1960 - 5.1
2008 - 5.4

Rape:

1960 - 9.6
2008 - 29.3

If you scroll down on that page it shows crimes per 100,000 inhabitants.

Take a good look at how much forcible rape has increased!

Oh and by the way, you talk a lot but where are your statistics to back up what you are so vehemently claiming?
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:12 pm
@Arella Mae,
You live in a fantasy world and we had reach the 1965 level for murder as 5.1 compare to 5.4 is first not a meaningful different and we are now in 2010 not 2008.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

2004 America's crime rate was roughly the same as in 1970, with the homicide rate being at its lowest level since 1965. Overall, the national crime rate was 4982 crimes per 100,000 residents, down from 4852 crimes per 100,000 residents thirty years earlier in 1974 (-17.6%).[2]

Since 1964, the U.S. crime rate has increased by as much as 350%, and over 11 million crimes were reported in the year 2007 alone.[9] Crime in the United States has fluctuated considerably over the course of the last half-century, rising significantly in the late 1960s and 1970s, peaking in the 1980s and then decreasing considerably in the 1990s.

Over the past thirty years, the crime rate rose throughout the 1980s, reached its peak in 1993 and then began to decrease throughout the 1990s and 2000s

Despite the recent stagnation of the homicide rate, however, property and violent crimes overall have continued to decrease, though at a considerably slower pace than in the 1990s.[7] Overall, the crime rate in the U.S. was the same in 2004 as in 1969, with the homicide rate being roughly the same as in 1966. Violent crime overall, however, is still at the same level as in 1974, despite having decreased steadily since 1991.[6]
Despite the recent stagnation of the homicide rate, however, property and violent crimes overall have continued to decrease, though at a considerably slower pace than in the 1990s.[7] Overall, the crime rate in the U.S. was the same in 2004 as in 1969, with the homicide rate being roughly the same as in 1966. Violent crime overall, however, is still at the same level as in 1974, despite having decreased steadily since 1991.[6]
Crime Rate[6][10]
1960 1961 1963 1965 1967 1969 1971 1973 1975 1977 1979 1981 1983 1985 1987 1989 1991 1993 1995 1997 1999 2001 2003 2005 2008
Violent crime rate 160.9 158.1 168.2 200.2 253.2 328.7 396.0 417.4 487.8 475.9 548.9 594.3 537.7 556.6 609.7 663.1 758.1 746.8 684.6 610.8 523.0 504.4 475.8 469.2 454.5
Homicide rate 5.1 4.8 4.6 5.1 6.2 7.3 8.6 9.4 9.6 8.8 9.8 9.8 8.3 8.0 8.3 8.7 9.8 9.5 8.2 6.8 5.7 5.6 5.7 5.6 5.4
Property crime rate 1,726 1,747 2,012 2,249 2,736 3,351 3,769 3,737 4,811 4,602 5,017 5,264 4,637 4,650 4,940 5,078 5,140 4,738 4,591 4,312 3,744 3,656 3,591 3,430 3,213
Crimes per 100,000 population
SOURCES: US Bureau of Justice Statistics (2004),[6] Federal Bureau of Investigation, (2008)[10]

Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:16 pm
@BillRM,
Did you know any Tom, Dick, Harry, or even Bill can post anything they want on wikipedia? It doesn't even have to be true! In other words, it's not exactly what is known as a "credible" source.

I will assume you didn't know that instead of assuming you ignore everything that disagrees with your viewpoint.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:20 pm
@Arella Mae,
Statistics Show Drop In U.S. Rape Cases
Many Say Crime Is Still Often Unreported

Quote:
1960 - 9.6
2008 - 29.3

If you scroll down on that page it shows crimes per 100,000 inhabitants.

Take a good look at how much forcible rape has increased!


Fantasy world once more.........


Who's Blogging» Links to this article
By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 19, 2006

The number of rapes per capita in the United States has plunged by more than 85 percent since the 1970s, and reported rape fell last year even while other violent offenses increased, according to federal crime data.

This seemingly stunning reduction in sexual violence has been so consistent over the past two decades that some experts say they have started to believe it is accurate, even if they cannot fully explain why it is occurring.

In 1979, according to a Justice Department estimate based on a wide-ranging public survey, there were 2.8 rapes for every 1,000 people. In 2004, the same survey found that the rate had decreased to 0.4 per thousand.

Many criminologists and victims' advocates say that these numbers could be a statistical mirage, because rape is still underreported and poorly understood. But others say they have been convinced that there is real improvement and that a devastating crime has been receding from American life.

"Overall, there has clearly been a decline over the last 10 to 20 years," said Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women. "It's very liberating for women, in terms of now being able to be more free and more safe."

By all accounts, rape is still one of the most underreported crimes. Several decades after the establishment of rape crisis hotlines, greater sensitivity toward rape victims by police and prosecutors, adoption of policies by news organizations to not identify victims and limitations on how much a victim's sexual history can be placed in evidence during trial, the Justice Department estimates that 61 percent of rapes and sexual assaults are still not reported. But that is down from 69 percent in 1996, and experts say the trend remains downward.

Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:23 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Statistics Show Drop In U.S. Rape Cases
Many Say Crime Is Still Often Unreported

Quote:
1960 - 9.6
2008 - 29.3

If you scroll down on that page it shows crimes per 100,000 inhabitants.

Take a good look at how much forcible rape has increased!


Fantasy world once more.........


Who's Blogging» Links to this article
By David A. Fahrenthold
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 19, 2006

The number of rapes per capita in the United States has plunged by more than 85 percent since the 1970s, and reported rape fell last year even while other violent offenses increased, according to federal crime data.

This seemingly stunning reduction in sexual violence has been so consistent over the past two decades that some experts say they have started to believe it is accurate, even if they cannot fully explain why it is occurring.

In 1979, according to a Justice Department estimate based on a wide-ranging public survey, there were 2.8 rapes for every 1,000 people. In 2004, the same survey found that the rate had decreased to 0.4 per thousand.

Many criminologists and victims' advocates say that these numbers could be a statistical mirage, because rape is still underreported and poorly understood. But others say they have been convinced that there is real improvement and that a devastating crime has been receding from American life.

"Overall, there has clearly been a decline over the last 10 to 20 years," said Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women. "It's very liberating for women, in terms of now being able to be more free and more safe."

By all accounts, rape is still one of the most underreported crimes. Several decades after the establishment of rape crisis hotlines, greater sensitivity toward rape victims by police and prosecutors, adoption of policies by news organizations to not identify victims and limitations on how much a victim's sexual history can be placed in evidence during trial, the Justice Department estimates that 61 percent of rapes and sexual assaults are still not reported. But that is down from 69 percent in 1996, and experts say the trend remains downward.


To brorow your words, this is 2010 and not 2006.

It would greatly help if you could provide links to what you post. I am sorry, but I'm not taking your word for it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:28 pm
@Arella Mae,
Quote:
Did you know any Tom, Dick, Harry, or even Bill can post anything they want on wikipedia? It doesn't even have to be true! In other words, it's not exactly what is known as a "credible" source


I guess the link to the justice department database given as a reference in not true-full?

I follow the reference link and it is the same as the table given in the Wikipedia article and any false information is normally challenge and correct in very short order in any case in wikipedia.

It would seem that I know how Wikipedia work better then you.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:31 pm
@Arella Mae,
Quote:
To brorow your words, this is 2010 and not 2006.


So rape had gone up 1000 or so percent since 2006!!!!!!!!

Try to be a little honest here.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:38 pm
I tell you want we will just pretend that crime rate including murder and rape is not dropping like a rock but in fact is going up in order to make you happy.

We will all live in your frightening fantasy world with you.

Feel better already?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:38 pm
@BillRM,
Bill, I really was hoping we could have a decent conversation because this topic does interest me. But, I am not going to banter with you.

If you think wikipedia is a good source, go for it. I just wouldn't expect very many people to accept the information as credible. I have posted plenty of links showing there has been an increase in crimes in America and you don't agree with them.

Who said rape went up 1000% percent? It surely was not me. If my calculations are correct in that link I provided:

Rapes:

1960 - 17,190
2008 - 89,000

That would be around 19%.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:46 pm
@Arella Mae,
Beside the fact that you did not address that the information refer to in the Wikipedia article can be found on the US justice department website so there is zero question of it being in error.

Reliability of Wikipedia
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Vandalism of a Wikipedia articleThe reliability of Wikipedia, compared to both other encyclopedias and more specialized sources, is assessed in several ways, including statistically, by comparative review, analysis of the historical patterns, and strengths and weaknesses inherent in the editing process unique to Wikipedia.

Because Wikipedia is open to anonymous and collaborative editing, assessments of its reliability usually include examinations of how quickly false or misleading information is removed. An early study conducted by IBM researchers in 2003—two years following Wikipedia's establishment—found that "vandalism is usually repaired extremely quickly—so quickly that most users will never see its effects"[1] and concluded that Wikipedia had "surprisingly effective self-healing capabilities".[2]

A notable early study in the journal Nature suggested that in 2005, Wikipedia scientific articles came close to the level of accuracy in Encyclopædia Britannica and had a similar rate of "serious errors".[3] This study was disputed by Encyclopædia Britannica.[4]

By 2010 reviewers in medical and scientific fields such as toxicology, cancer research and drug information reviewing Wikipedia against professional and peer reviewed sources found that Wikipedia's depth and coverage were of a very high standard, often

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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:49 pm
@BillRM,
Sorry, I do not find wikipedia a credible source. That is my feeling about it. If you have other information, data, statistics, etc., that back up your claims, I'd be happy to see them. Please, also provide the links themselves.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:52 pm
Quote:
One of the results teachers envision for students to achieve when writing research papers is that the information is accurate and credible. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not neatly fall into the categories of accurate or credible. One argument for Wikipedia’s use as a resource is that the more people who contribute information the more accurate that information will become. However, it can take anywhere from a few minutes to a few weeks before errors are found or corrected.

Consider the estimate of 13 percent of pages containing errors. Then suppose Wikipedia has 2,000,000 articles. That would be 260,000 incorrect articles. Another way to look at this is that almost 1 out of every 8 articles contains errors.

http://www.suite101.com/content/wikipedias-credibility-a57257


BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:55 pm
@Arella Mae,
See all the studies that disagree with you.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 05:58 pm
@Arella Mae,
Second it does not matter at all what the hell you think of Wikipedia as the article gave a link to the table on the Justice Department website.

You are not being honest you are throwing up straw dogs.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 06:06 pm
@BillRM,
I don't care what you or anyone else thinks about wikipedia Bill. I, myself, me, do not find it credible. You haven't shown me any LINKS to convincing statistics that prove the links I provided incorrect.

I keep asking you for LINKS to the stuff. I want to read it ALL myself. I provide small quotes from the articles but I give the link so you can read ALL of it. The only links you want to give me are the ones that say wikipedia is credible. I disagree plain and simple. It's just a fact of life.

Everything I am reading and posting has shown an increase in the overall crime rate in the United States since at least 1960. There were some decreases at times but crime is not at an all time low. If it is event a tenth of a percentage above what it once was it's not at an all time low.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 06:11 pm
Here is another link. This one even has charts - SHOWING AN INCREASE IN CRIME.

http://www.moralityindex.com/crime.html
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 06:24 pm
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:


Who said rape went up 1000% percent? It surely was not me. If my calculations are correct in that link I provided:

Rapes:

1960 - 17,190
2008 - 89,000

That would be around 19%.



Maybe I can play dueling links later. I can say now that you both need a little help with the math. Percent of change is calculated by dividing the change by the base. Accepting your figures, just for discussion:

89,000 - 17,190 = 71,810

71,810 (change) \ 17,190 (base) ---> 418%
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 06:33 pm
@roger,
I thought you divided the small number by the large number to get percentage? I was thinking 19% wasn't high enough. Now I know why. I haven't been in school in years! LOL
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