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Gun permit allows quick access to Texas Capitol

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 12:37 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Come, come, liberalism is an improving, civilizing philosophy, the polar opposite of conservatism which is a lock step, violent philosophy.


Textbook example of why you should never use the definitions of an ignorant bigot.



plainoldme wrote:
Being armed is so 17th, 18th, and 19th C.

If we are going to live in the past, let's live in the past on all levels.


Freedom haters always say that freedom is something that only our ancestors should have.

I say drag the freedom haters down to Guantanamo and let the rest of society live in freedom.



plainoldme wrote:
We evolved as a society away from gun toting


No we didn't.



plainoldme wrote:
why return to a less sophisticated and less safe level?


Your characterization of freedom as being less sophisticated and less safe is of course completely untrue.



plainoldme wrote:
the Constitution which can and should be amended. Let's take the Second Amendment out!


No.



plainoldme wrote:
As I have repeatedly posted, self-defense experts and promoters of non-violence tell women to not use guns and knives. Well, they can peel fruit with a knife.


Sounds like the supposed experts don't know what they are talking about.

Better to go to people who do know what they are talking about, if you're looking for expertise.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 02:05 pm
@oralloy,
Kissy, kissy! Smack!!!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 03:57 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Kissy, kissy! Smack!!!
STILL no comment qua Susan Gonzalez, Plain?

NOTHING to say??





David
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 04:07 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Who is she?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 04:28 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Who is she?
Cut and pasted from the last page; this is the 3rd time, Plain:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

plainoldme wrote:
Who the hell is Susan Gonzalez?

As I have repeatedly posted, self-defense experts and promoters of non-violence
tell women to not use guns and knives. Well, they can peel fruit with a knife.
2nd iteration, for your convenience:

There was a lady in Florida, Susan Gonzalez, who feared n detested guns.
She requested her husband not to have any guns in their house,
especially with their children there. One night, 2 criminals broke
down their front door. They entered her home, shot Mrs. Gonzalez twice,
and shot her husband as he lay harmlessly in his bed.

Franticly, she scrambled to get the OBJECT OF ABHORENCE:
her husband's 9 shot .22 caliber revolver.

She grabbed it up and killed one of the criminals.
The other fled, after she shot him too.

Altho it is possible that the criminals might have allowed Mrs. Gonzalez’ 5 children to live
(if they did not care that the children'd complain to the police and testify against them in court)
Mrs. G was not willing to confide the lives of her children to the discretion of the men
who had just shot both of their parents.

This attack was STOPPED by the presence of an UNLOCKED gun in the home.
Without it, the murders of the parents and children probably would have continued until all the children were dead.
That gun was the INSTRUMENT OF LIFE for the Gonzalez family.

After hospitalization, the Gonzalezes recovered from their wounds.
She became a public speaker in support of the right to keep and bear arms,
and takes her .38 Taurus revolver everywhere with her.

Wise is he who learns from his mistakes,
but wiser is he who learns from the mistakes of others.





David
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 05:08 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I think you build castles in the air. You take weird once in a lifetime stories like this and build a case on them. Exceptions do not make the rule. This woman sounds more than a tad reactionary.

Consider how few . . . let me repeat, FEW . . . stories of this kind one hears of.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 06:22 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I think you build castles in the air. You take weird once in a lifetime stories like this and build a case on them. Exceptions do not make the rule. This woman sounds more than a tad reactionary.

Consider how few . . . let me repeat, FEW . . . stories of this kind one hears of.


When you plug your ears, you have no credibility when you proclaim that you can't hear anything.

Last I heard, the lowest count of defensive gun uses in the US was around 100,000 events every year, and that low number was clearly an undercount.

However, the fact that people are using guns to defend themselves all the time distracts from the real issue, which is that we have the RIGHT to carry guns for self defense.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 08:45 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I think you build castles in the air.
You take weird once in a lifetime stories like this and build a case on them.

Exceptions do not make the rule.

This woman sounds more than a tad reactionary.

Consider how few . . . let me repeat,
FEW . . . stories of this kind one hears of.
In South Bend, Indiana, Tony D. Murray broke into a home occupied by Sue Gay,
an 80-year-old grandmother and her 11-year-old grandchild.
The intruder held a jagged box cutter to the grandmother's neck,
at which time the 11-year-old ran upstairs where he retrieved
a .45 revolver. The 11-year-old returned, pointed the gun
at the intruder, and shot and killed him.

"The young man reasonably believed his grandmother and himself to be
in danger of dying," the South Bend police said.
"It was clear to us this was a justifiable homicide. He did what he had to do."
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 09:00 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Do you remember the gesture that consisted of waving the index finger in the air in a proscribed circle?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jul, 2010 09:19 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Do you remember the gesture that consisted
of waving the index finger in the air in a proscribed circle?
If I remember, it indicated a matter of little significance.
This was a matter of LIFE and DEATH.

U suggest that such is of little significance?

a trivial matter ?





David
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 04:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
plainoldme wrote:
Do you remember the gesture that consisted
of waving the index finger in the air in a proscribed circle?
If I remember, it indicated a matter of little significance.
This was a matter of LIFE and DEATH.

U suggest that such is of little significance?

a trivial matter ?





David


Plainoldme hates our freedom just as much as the 9/11 attackers did.

You can never reason with a freedom hater. All you can do is drag 'em down to Guantanamo so they don't do any harm to anyone.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 07:38 am
@oralloy,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
plainoldme wrote:
Do you remember the gesture that consisted
of waving the index finger in the air in a proscribed circle?
If I remember, it indicated a matter of little significance.
This was a matter of LIFE and DEATH.

U suggest that such is of little significance?

a trivial matter ?





David
oralloy wrote:
Plainoldme hates our freedom just as much as the 9/11 attackers did.

You can never reason with a freedom hater.
All you can do is drag 'em down to Guantanamo so they don't do any harm to anyone.
Yeah; there is one other way, which is not at all likely to happen:
the truth can be made known to them thru their emotions,
thru their personal experience,
the same way that it worked with Susan Gonzalez in Florida.

Before that, it is abstract and theoretical, and of little interest to them.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:02 am
@OmSigDAVID,
My comment was on the logic behind this example. You are of the 'school of thought' that a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. It doesn't work that way.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 01:54 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
My comment was on the logic behind this example.
You are of the 'school of thought' that a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. It doesn't work that way.
On some occasions, it HAS worked that way.





David
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 06:57 pm
@plainoldme,
To avoid be ing accused of misquoting her, here is her entire comment...

Quote:
Chose the right word. Deviation has to do with statistics or morals and not with the Constitution which can and should be amended. Let's take the Second Amendment out!


While we are at it, lets also remove the 19th amendment, the 16th amendment, and any other amendments we feel like removing.
Does that sound fair to you?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 07:16 pm
@mysteryman,
To avoid be ing accused of misquoting her, here is her entire comment...

Quote:
Chose the right word. Deviation has to do with statistics or morals and not with the Constitution
which can and should be amended. Let's take the Second Amendment out!
mysteryman wrote:
While we are at it, lets also remove the 19th amendment, the 16th amendment,
and any other amendments we feel like removing.
Does that sound fair to you?
Article 5 of the Constitution designates the only legitimate means
of amending the Constitution. The liberals simply want to lie about it, USURP power,
degrade freedom and fake it; pretend that its OK.

The foundation of liberalism (i.e., deviation) is mendacity, deception, and cheating.





David
parados
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 07:27 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
POM says she wants to amend the constitution to change it.
David attacks POM claiming the only legitimate way to change the constitution is amendment.

I think you are the one guilty of mendacity David. It's either that or a reading comprehension problem.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 09:26 pm
@mysteryman,
It would be easier for all of us if you were more cognizant. Try jumping at to catch all the things flying over your head.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 09:29 pm
@parados,
I always knew I liked you. With undying gratitude, POM!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 09:55 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I always knew I liked you.
Is it POSSIBLE to like anyone without KNOWING it ??





David
 

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