Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@firefly,

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Hawkeye's hatred of feminists doesn't verge on the edge of sickness, it's a full blown obsession

From that one posting of your describing homosexual male rape I would not be throwing any rocks at Hawkeye it I was you.

A few rape fantasies bury deeply in your mind perhaps?

Twisted Evil

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

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Your hate of feminists, of whom you claim to be a former one, verges on the edge of a sickness.

Intrepid, Hawkeye's hatred of feminists doesn't verge on the edge of sickness, it's a full blown obsession. He mentions "feminists" in virtually all his posts, as the creators of sex laws which are anti-sex and anti-male, despite the fact that he cannot name even 3 prominent current feminist thinkers/writers or feminist organizations that advocate what he rails against. "Feminists" are no more than phantoms of his imagination, some evil force that justifies his anger against a system of laws that insists on an age of consent, the criminalization of child pornography, and an unforced willingness to engage in sexual intercourse.

He just refuses to admit that most people want these laws in place with good reason.

He's told us that coerced sex is normal for him. Because he accepts it as normal, it makes it rather difficult for him to accept that rape, other than the most obviously violent or brutal rapes, what he considers "real rape" should even be a crime. He wants the laws to bend so he can continue to satisfy his personal needs for "sexual conquests and acquisitions" in a more unfettered manner. And anyone that gets in the way of that, or disagrees with that, he's going to label a "feminist".

Right on. OMG.... I must be a feminist. Shocked

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Right on. OMG.... I must be a feminist.

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@JustBrooke,

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Surely, you are not accusing me of saying that.

As if that was not your message your posting would not had made any kind of sense at all.

Good try in trying to hide behind wiggle words however.

It an art form to post a clear message and yet place enough wiggle words that you can try to play innocent.

Better luck next time.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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Surely, you are not accusing me of saying that.

As if that was not your message your posting would not had made any kind of sense at all.

Good try in trying to hide behind wiggle words however.

It an art form to post a clear message and yet place enough wiggle words that you can try to play innocent.

Better luck next time.

Billy is speaking of others not making sense? Billy who can't even put together a sentence, let alone a paragraph that can be understood without an interpreter?

Art form? Billy, you can't even draw a stick man!

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@BillRM,

Wow - you really ARE dense! Smile

Damn!

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@Intrepid,

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Of course it your right to disagree as it is with everyone. I don't think Dys was disputing your right to disagree. He was stating, the same as I, that the fact that we disagree with something does not mean it does not happen.

As for scripture.....it also teaches not to judge.

I'm just a heathen but to my way of thinking, if the beatitudes define christianity (which I happen to think), Arella Mae, you ain't no christian.

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@JustBrooke,

No I read the message clearly and filter out the wiggle words as you intended people to do.

If I have had the full message in front of me on my first post concerning it I would have address your used of the wiggle words then.

You are very good at doing so a real talent indeed.

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@Arella Mae,

Arella Mae wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

Of course it your right to disagree as it is with everyone. I don't think Dys was disputing your right to disagree. He was stating, the same as I, that the fact that we disagree with something does not mean it does not happen.

As for scripture.....it also teaches not to judge.

We cannot judge someone's salvation but we make judgment calls everyday. There is wrong and there is right and we definitely do make judgments on that. But this is not an S&R thread and I do not want to derail it.

We may make them, but that does not make it right.

To stay on topic, we must also acknowledge what is written in the old testament that does not decry rape.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

No I read the message clearly and filter out the wiggle words as you intended people to do.

If I have had the full message in front of me on my first post concerning it I would have address your used of the wiggle words then.

You are very good at doing so a real talent indeed.

In other words. You don't have a friggin clue as to what she said and this is your way of "wiggling" out of making a fool of yourself. You really should get a grip on how to read properly before you embarrass yourself, as you do so often.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

No I read the message clearly and filter out the wiggle words as you intended people to do.

If I have had the full message in front of me on my first post concerning it I would have address your used of the wiggle words then.

You are very good at doing so a real talent indeed.

You poor little boy. You really hate it when someone backs your ass up against the wall, and you can't get out. Run along now, Billy. I have things to do of much more importance than your babble.

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@JustBrooke,

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someone backs your ass up against the wall, and you can't get out.

Lord you are planning on backing my ass up again a wall where was you girl when I was single!

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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someone backs your ass up against the wall, and you can't get out.

Lord you are planning on backing my ass up again a wall where was you girl when I was single!

You said you are what? 62? Don't you think it is about time to grow up and stop being a little child. Your attempts at being witty are totally unbecoming of you. You do not have the facility to do so. As for humour. Well........ Staying on topic? Non-existent.

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To get back on topic....this is in today's news

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Sex offender arrested in brutal rape of 80-year-old east Alabama woman
Published: Monday, August 02, 2010, 11:12 AM

CHAMBERS COUNTY, Alabama -- A convicted rapist was arrested after what police are calling a brutal attack on an 80-year-old east Alabama woman, who was pulled out of her store and raped in a truck, TV station WTVM reports.

James Pollard, 42, walked into Milner's Stop and Shop on Columbus Road on Saturday night as the woman was working behind the counter, the Valley police chief told WTVM. Police say Pollard is a registered sex offender who was convicted of rape in 1997.
http://blog.al.com/live/2010/08/sex_offender_arrested_in_bruta.html

This sort of rape should convince everyone that rape is a crime of violence and domination. It is certainly not about "intimate relationships" or even sexual desire. That's what's getting lost in this thread. It is a crime of violence. And not even 80 year old women are safe.

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@firefly,

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Intrepid, Hawkeye's hatred of feminists doesn't verge on the edge of sickness, it's a full blown obsession

My problem with the feminists is multi level, but as it relates to this thread it is because they have almost single handedly written sex law, and these laws do not conform to humanity. They are bad because they are based upon feminist theory, which is deeply flawed. I don't need to be a feminist scholar myself to object, and anyone who has a computer can conclusively find out that the feminists are responsible for the writting of our sex laws. Hopefully now that the feminists are being challanged by other women we will see this movement towards progressively more anti male sex laws, as well as to increasingly regulate sexual behavior stopped.

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He just refuses to admit that most people want these laws in place with good reason.

False. I have said on multiple occasions that my view is the minority view. Me and others are working to make it the majority view.

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He's told us that coerced sex is normal for him

I said that it is normal for human sexuality and normal in nature as well. It is also normal for my peers, though this is currently a part of human sexuality that in undergoing a great deal of repression. I think that we see some of the result of this repression in the increasing popularity of full blown BDSM relationships and sexuality, as people rebel against the straight jacket that feminists through sex law have placed on "normal" sexuality. People increasing see vanilla as boring and unrewarding, and move into alternative lifestyles and into alternative communities that reject the majority culture. Feminist are itching to put the boom on BDSM through criminalizing it, but they I think no longer have the power or moral authority to get this done..though it was a concern of mine up till a few years ago.

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@JustBrooke,

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If you deny that there are NOT men in bars that go there to try and get an easy piece of ass off of a drunken woman who may not consent if she were sober,

of course not, that is one of the main purposes of bars. Women increasingly do the same thing. A great time is had by almost all. I have a sneaking suspicion that that is what really bothers you.

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men that are not beyond slippling a Mickey into some girls drink,

that does happen occasionally, and guys who do this should get rung up. But it was never very common and now it is downright rare, but since you seem the be the timid type who like to live in fear feel free to keep you drink with you at all times, so that this does not happen to you.

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@hawkeye10,

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I think that we see some of the result of this repression in the increasing popularity of full blown BDSM relationships and sexuality, as people rebel against the straight jacket that feminists through sex law have placed on "normal" sexuality.

Do you have any other rationalizations for your own particular deviant tendencies?

Is there any evil you don't consider the FEMINISTS responsible for? How about global warming? Laughing

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@firefly,

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Is there any evil you don't consider the FEMINISTS responsible for? How about global warming

Nothing else, as the movement lost power as younger women no longer saw a need for feminism the feminists concentrated on sex law as a way to force the culture the way they want it to go. And they moved largely behind the scenes, forming alliances with those in law and government who were sympathetic to the feminist desire to protect the victims. Working slowly and in quiet and with a hefty PR budget much of which comes from the government through VAWA they have been able to push through their agenda without a lot of resistance.

Those days are over.

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@firefly,

And what dear heart does the sad attack and rape on an old woman had anything to do with the nonsense you are pushing here by the wheelbarrow full????

Is any one claiming here that she consented to sex but was to drunk do so!!!

LOL no even Hawkeye would LIKELY have a problem with punishing such a low life.

The problems you seem to be running into is that sane people can not see a link between such an act and a couple going out drinking and then having sex.

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@BillRM,

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the nonsense you are pushing here by the wheelbarrow full

this is something like the 6th time that Firefly has paraded acts that no one disputes are a crime in the attempt to support her position. How she thinks this helps her IDK. It is beginning to look like an exercise in MEN.ARE.EVIL..MUST. HIT.HARDER!

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