Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

My understanding is that Subliminalkid is an adult, perfectly able to engage in this forum as any other poster. If she is NOT an adult, then I should probably have left her alone, and perhaps she should stay away from the fray here, but that's not my understanding.

My daughter is old enough to go on A2K. She should not receive unwanted pms from a creep, twice she told said creep to stop harassing her and twice he ignored her.

Hi Bill, Izzy didn't bring his daughter into the mix, it seems a few members know what name his daughter uses when she posts here, so the big balled Olivier sent her taunting msgs, because he couldn't annoy Izzy during his time away (want to guess why he was away????) And since Olivier is so stunted and couldn't reach Izzy, he knew if he pestered Izzy's daughter it would be uber annoying. This is entirely on Olivier, he is such a shitheel, his hate led him to seek out Izzy's daughter. You might want to back away from Olivier unless you also believe members children are fair game for twisted fucks.

That's just not true. Ask her to post the entire conversation, and you will see that i did not harass her, and that she only asked me to stop writing to her once, at the end of the latest exchange.

You people are creative thinkers, I grant you that. As in "creative accounting".

Yes he did. I am no magician. I had no way to guess she was his daughter, if he had not said so. She has been an ally of daddy here, have chipped in discussions, etc. like any poster.

You cry a bit too much.

BillRM seems to be admitting that A2K is not a safe place for young women because of the amount of inadequate men who post here.

Sorry but no website that cover the topics this one cover is suited for young minor children and if she is such a minor child shame on Izz using her to help fight his battles.

Izzy described her as a "young woman" just now. I suppose that means she's an adult, hence perfectly able to speak (and be spoken to) here.

Much ado about nothing.

She's at University you muppet. Just because she's of age doesn't mean she should be harassed by creepy little men.

This is taking the piss so I'm going to speak up for myself instead of having people who have no idea who I am discussing me. So let's make a few things clear.

I'm 23. I'm an adult.

I very rarely use A2K. I joined to participate in a couple in a couple of discussions and that's it. I know my dad, Izzy, has a few people he likes on here and a few people he doesn't like but I don't get involved - nor has he asked me to. I only contribute if I see something I want to contribute to, not because any one else has asked or told me to. However I don't come on here that often, I have my own social networks and other things I do on the internet - as well as a life outside of the internet including a series of deadlines coming up at uni. So A2K is very, very low on my priority list.

After not coming on for a long time, I saw that Olivier5 had sent me a message. I'd seen the conflict between him and my dad before so I knew that the message wasn't sent out of kindness or caring. Olivier5 really creeps me out. After I made a post about feminism he sent me a series of messages trying to invalidate my experiences - so I asked him to leave me alone.



Olivier5's behaviour has been seriously creepy. Apparently he doesn't like my dad to the point that he feels the need to message me. I have my own life. I have my own online friends, people I don't like online, my own online communities. I'm not an extension of my dad, I'm my own person.

No I am not "fair game" just because I'm over 18 and happen to be related to someone. I don't want to come on to have creepy messages sent to me by some guy I don't know that happens to dislike my dad. I don't deserve harassment, passive aggression and creepiness from old creeps I don't even bloody well know and no I'm not going to stand back and idly deal with it.

The fact that you're so obsessed with how you don't like my dad you'll send messages to me, someone who is rarely on here, says it all.

Now if you'll excuse me I have my own life to get to.

The fact remains that I never insulted this kid, while she insulted me several times, and for no good reason. Oh well... Haters will be haters.

You are now the Poster Boy for Bullies. You know the type, tsk tsk tsk Ollie.

Bill, it's apparent that a 23 year old woman is not a minor child. I understand that you have a strong dislike for some of the members, but you don't have to lie, or exaggerate in order to express your bias. I don't know if you have children, but wouldn't you find it infuriating if an A2K nemesis was sending PM's to your wife or grown daughter? Old Ollie went a little too far. It's not an honorable thing to do, in fact it's extremely poor form. He owes at least 2 people an apology. And if you would use your conscience you would agree. Even if you hate someone like poison, their kids are off-limits.

Classic, now you want to pretend you didn't taunt her all that badly. You must think everybody else is stupid. You're a sad case Ollie, but you did get a lot of attention. And 'Yo Kid" is so quintessentially French, you massive fraud.

I've said everything I care to say, you little boys can carry on from here.

What I did may have been in poor form, and I do wish to apologize for that. But i also genuinly wanted to know why these two had fallen off the grid. I was genuinly curious to know what was happening there. I should have asked Izzy directly, that's well taken.


This being said, what I did is far from the hurdle of horrors you make it to be. You're a great comedian, a terrific character assassin, i grant you that. You have a natural talent for it. But never force your talent, they say. All this furious stirring of tempests in tea pots can be tiring for your tendons, dear aunt.

I think you've taken a positive step by acknowledging you made an error in judgement. It would have been truly a giant step if you could have said that when this first came to light. But most importantly, you seem close to admitting it was a mistake.

However, if you need to think I'm the bad guy for calling you out, that's fine with me. I'm unfamiliar with the social norms of your circle, but where I live it's a big, big, big deal to engage another persons children (even grown children) in a feud you have with that person. It's considered dirty pool (if you are familiar with that expression) and I would be floored if anyone would think that type of action was no big deal. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here, I'm happy you are on the verge of an apology, but it's not character assassination to point out that such behaviour is not acceptable.

But you didn't insult me, you insulted somebody's Dad. You know the old saw, it takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I can respect that, I assume everyone else can as well.

I have no interest in continuing to discuss this, I've said everything I cared to say and stated as much in the post before yours. Lastly,you've made progress, I think that's admirable but I won't be joining your fan club. I'm just not much of a joiner.

You keep saying that you don't want to talk about it but then you keep coming back with more tea stirring (to put it mildly).

You think I like this conversation? That I relish in being branded as a child molester, because I asked an adult poster on A2K how she and her father were doing? Let that be news for you: i don't. And as long as you brand me a child molester, I will deny it. Because it's absolutely and infamously disproportionate.


What's that about? I already apologized for writing to the kid. What do you want me to do now? Should I write a nice PM to Izzy?

I did not call you a child molester you vainglorious fraud. You simply can't get enough attention can you? Go pick a fight with someone who actually gives a crap. I know there will be another response from you, because, the grand and glorious Ollie, has to have the last word because he just does.

You realize I hope your original story was Izzy's daughter contacted you, now you admit you were worried about both of them and that's when you sent the first PM. Just because you can't keep your story straight doesn't mean others can't. You are making things up, then doubling down on the fantasy, get some help.

I was indeed curious to know what happened to them. Curiosity killed the cat.