Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

it surely not rocket science.

All I know it is a dastardly thing to blanket disclaim the honorable service others made to this country while you've admitted had other better things to do yourself. If you know something spit it out otherwise button up. That's nothing but throwing ****. You really so so so so owe glitter an apology. She knows exactly what she can say about what.

Seriously, as a friend, I'm telling you: you were waaaaaay out of line.

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Two Los Angeles Cops Charged With Raping Multiple Women Over Years
Veterans of the force allegedly targeted victims who were most unlikely to report or be believed.
By Kali Holloway / AlterNet
February 18, 2016


Over the course of more than five years, two veteran LAPD officers repeatedly sexually assaulted women, threatening them with arrest if they didn’t comply with their demands.

According to a statement released yesterday by Los Angeles District Attorney Jackie Lacey, some of the assaults took place in the officers’ patrol car, and nearly all of the alleged assaults were carried out while the cops were on duty. James Nichols, a 15-year veteran of the force, and Luis Valenzuela, on the force for 18 years, face multiple charges, including “forcible rape, rape under color of authority, oral copulation under color of authority and oral copulation by force.” Valenzuela is also being charged with assault with a firearm for pointing a gun at one of the women.

The four alleged victims, who range in age from 19 to 34, all told investigators similar stories of sexual assault by the officers. Citing information contained in the arrest warrant, the Los Angeles Times reports the women, often after being threatened with jail, were taken by car to desolate areas where they were forced to perform sex acts on one officer while the other “kept watch.”

All four women had reportedly been arrested in the past by Valenzuela and Nichols on drug-related charges, and two were working with the officers as informants. Though the first report was made in 2010, the alleged assault took place a year prior. The women say they were afraid to come forward for numerous reasons. Dennis Chang, a lawyer representing two of the women, suggests the police targeted their victims knowing they were unlikely to report due to prior arrest records, along with fears about having their status as informants revealed.

"These women were drug users, they're primarily arrested and in custody, in an extremely vulnerable state," Chang said. "They were afraid."

Last year, the Los Angeles City Council paid $575,000 to one of the victims in an out-of-court settlement. If convicted, the two officers face life in prison.

Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck addressed reporters on Wednesday during a press conference.

"These two officers have disgraced themselves, they’ve disgraced this badge, they’ve disgraced their oath of office,” Beck said. “I am extremely troubled by what they’ve done.”

Beck says the department is currently trying to determine if there were any other victims. The Washington Post notes that before any charges were filed, the investigation dragged on for years with little progress:

“According to the complaint, the offenses...were reported by multiple women but the rapes allegedly continued unchecked as an internal investigation floundered for years. It wasn’t until one of the women filed a lawsuit against the cops in 2013 that their fellow LAPD officers moved in, seizing phones and computers belonging to Valenzuela and Nichols. The accused cops have spent the past two years on unpaid leave.”

The case comes not long after the conviction of former Oklahoma police officer Daniel Holtzclaw, who was sentenced to 263 years for the sexual assault of 13 women. All the victims in that case were African American, and mostly poor with prior drug charges on their record. Though the race of the victims in the case against Valenzuela and Nichols is not publicly known, the details in court documents seem to indicate the two officers preyed on women who were unlikely to report the assaults or be believed if they did file a report. Like Holtzclaw, they are accused of assaulting some of their victims multiple times.

Last year, an investigation by the Associated Press found that “1,000 officers...lost their badges in a six-year period for rape, sodomy and other sexual assault; sex crimes that included possession of child pornography; or sexual misconduct such as propositioning citizens or having consensual but prohibited on-duty intercourse.”

In the meantime, attorney Chang expressed hope that the officers would face consequences for their actions.

“It is a wonderful development, although it is years overdue,” Chang told the Times. “It’s a ray of light that these women will finally see some justice.”

Kali Holloway is a senior writer and the associate editor of media and culture at AlterNet.

No I do not owe a government employee pay out of my tax dollars for misusing her position of trust to try to intimidation citizens.

Female criminals that all they need to do is lied about some cops to get out of the next five years of charges.

Shame. On. You.

You owe her the apology for calling her a liar, disloyal to the nation and in violation of her security agreement.

I think I'm finally done with you. For shame. Shame on you.

Sorry she try to use her former government positions to intimidated me is a very public manner that is indeed shameful and I do not think that the NSA management who is trying to convict us they are our protectors not our enemies would thank her.

Bob, I'm not insulted. I would have to actually view Bill as a fully formed adult in order to be upset or concerned about his threats. He's a dope, you know it, I know it and anybody reading his pathetic bellyaching crybaby 'wah wah wah' life's unfair whine, knows it.

So the above mean that you are going to keep threatening me with government actions by way of your connections to the NSA?

No problem as it does not matter one way or another to me silly lady as one way or another I will deal with it.

I do find it amusing how you are trying to paint yourself as a victim of my threats however when you have been the one threatening me with government agents raiding my home and upsetting my peace.

Hopefully your government retirement benefits cover mental health treatments.

You're still pretending that english is your second language, Billy?

A fraud is what you are. Nothing more.

You're here to wind people up. Nothing more....

LOL you are only able to launch a very very weak personal attack?

An attack that does not even contain one tiny disagreement on any of the positions or facts I had taken and or posted in this thread?

Come on you can do at least a little better then that if you try hard enough.

Hell I guess your zero content attack is better then a cut an paste expert who search out anti-cops stories to post here or a woman who claimed to be a former NSA employee that have the power to send a federal swat team to my door due to my annoying her on this website.

Compare to those two posters you are a gem in the rough.

How the NRA Is 'Making A Killing' Off Women's Lives

A new documentary shines a light on the dangerous intersection of domestic violence and guns.
By Melissa Jeltsen / Huffington Post
March 11, 2016

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Photo Credit: Jan Mika/Shutterstock

It was Oct. 8, 1984, and Americans across the country were glued to their television sets for the premiere of "The Burning Bed." The made-for-TV movie starred Farrah Fawcett, everyone's favorite pinup girl, as a battered wife who kills her husband by burning him alive after suffering years of brutal abuse.

Based on a true story, "The Burning Bed" was an instant hit. Over 30 million households tuned in, making the drama more popular than that year’s World Series final game. Suddenly, domestic violence -- long considered a private matter that should be kept behind closed doors -- was being discussed out in the open.

"I felt the story was important and, at that point, not one we had ever seen before," said Robert Greenwald, who directed the movie. "Groups around the country used the film to mobilize and to take this issue out of the closet."

These days, Greenwald is no longer making Hollywood blockbusters, and is better known for his work as a liberal documentary filmmaker. In the past decade, he’s taken on the political influence of the Koch brothers, Walmart’s treatment of low wage workers, and how the Bush administration misled Americans on the Iraq war.

Now, thirty years after directing "The Burning Bed," he’s returning to the subject of domestic violence.

In his newest documentary, "Making A Killing: Guns, Greed & The NRA," Greenwald investigates how the lucrative firearms industry and the NRA are putting people's lives in danger by opposing common sense gun reform -- all in the name of turning a profit.

"The NRA is a lobbyist for the gun companies, and there's a significant profit motive at stake," he said. "All of us are in greater physical danger because of this."

The film pivots around five stories of gun violence: mass shootings, unintentional shootings, suicides, the impact of gun trafficking and domestic violence shootings.

As Greenwald rightly recognizes, it's difficult to properly illustrate the impact of gun violence on Americans without grappling with domestic abuse.

To start, the majority of mass shootings in the U.S., defined as those in which four or more people are killed, are related to domestic violence.

More often than not, when a woman is fatally shot in this country, the person wielding the firearm is someone she dated or married. Most women who die in gun homicides in the U.S. are killed by intimate partners or other family members. A U.S. woman is fatally shot by a romantic partner or ex every 16 hours, according to a recent analysis.

For every woman who is gunned down in a domestic violence homicide, countless others are seriously injured in non-fatal shootings.

One such survivor is Kate Ranta, a Florida woman featured in the film who police say was shot twice by her estranged husband in 2012. Her father was also shot multiple times, and her son William, who had just turned 4, was present in the room when the bullets began to fly.

"One day, over a year after I left him, he showed up unannounced at my new apartment while my father was visiting me. I could feel something was off and frantically tried to lock the door. He pulled out a gun... and shot me twice," she told The Huffington Post. "One bullet exploded my hand. The other went through my left breast, just missing my heart. My father was also shot twice. My son witnessed the whole thing."

Her ex has yet to stand trial.

In an especially emotional scene in "Making A Killing," Ranta's son recalls begging his father not to shoot his mother. Ranta said William now suffers from PTSD and anxiety.

Greenwald said that William's testimony had a profound impact on him.

"I've filmed drone survivors in Pakistan, I've filmed in Afghanistan. ... There was something about Will's talking that had me just choking up," Greenwald said. "You feel the depth of the experience on this child, who is going to hold it forever as part of him."

Greenwald said that when it comes to public perceptions of domestic violence, the country has come far since "The Burning Bed" premiered.

"People accept it's a substantive problem, which I don't believe they did before," he said, "It was more like some horrible, disgusting version of she asked for it."

Yet, when it comes to guns, he said, there's still plenty of progress left to make.

"There are many who are not taking sufficient steps to take guns away from abusers, and some of that goes back to the legislators, to the morally and financially corrupt elected officials," Greenwald said. "Women are getting killed and shot. Why should anybody who's been an abuser ever have access to a gun?"

He said he hopes that the film will inspire people from all across the country to get involved in the anti-gun violence movement.

"The NRA are doing enormous damage to so many people's lives around the country in the interest of a very, very small group of people's greed, and money and ideology," he said. "I hope and I sincerely believe that the tide is shifting."

"Making A Killing" will premiere the week of March 14th in cities throughout the country -- and be available to use for free for local screenings and house parties. To sign-up to screen the film, visit Brave New Films.

Yes indeed let pass laws that will disarmed women who need to go to their cars late at night. Men and women eating at restaurants or watching a movie at a movie theater will not be able to protect themselves from any nut that have a gun and a wish to kill.

With more then 350 millions firearms in private hands no law will stop someone with a wish to be armed laws or no law from being arm.

It sadly will stop law abiding men and women from having weapons that could stop the nuts from doing massive killings at whim.

Bob, can you help me here. Both your wife and I worked for the Federal Government under DOD. Neither one of us were, nor were the Agency's we worked for involved in law enforcement. So, do you have any idea what a Federal Swat Team is??? I thought maybe Navy Seals, Army Rangers but they are Military members and I'm pretty sure the Seals and Rangers would be pissed if they were called Swat teams. I'm not dissing swat teams, I just know that most Military Members don't want to be thought of as City or State employees.

Military personal can not be involved in law enforcement on US soil including swat teams since right after the civil war when a law by the name of Posse Comitatus Act was pass.

So no rangers or seals swats teams on US soil.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

No ****, I know that but it wasn't clear you did. While you were spinning inventive lies about me, exactly who were the Federal Swat teams you tell others on this forum I've supposedly threatened you with. Did I hear an oops?

He's just doing it for attention. He willingly entered this argument, and now he's resoundingly lost it, he's trying to claim you threatened him.

FBI......Homeland security and so on such as ATF

It interesting how great your lack of knowledge happen to be for a so call federal employee.

An interesting footnote is that the military turn over a few heavy tanks to the FBI swat team at Waco and while learning how to drive them they ran over a few cars in a parking lot including a few reporters cars

You really are a very frightened individual. It must be exhausting.