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James S. Fell – Lying Dipshit
June 2, 2014 in Blog, News, Response by Raz
Someone who contributes to the New York Slimes wrote a hit piece on the mens rights movement. I’m not going to take much time for preamble, let’s just start taking it apart piece by piece.
“A growing movement driven by misogyny and resentment is pulling in frustrated men struggling with changing definitions of masculinity. A man’s fitness columnist on why they should walk away.”
What misogyny?! How is it misogynist to be a free and proud man? Here is an excerpt from our websites about page;
“We also do not seek special treatment or privileges for men of any kind. What we want is for everybody to be treated equally. We want equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. Basically, we want society to stop lying about men, and stop blaming masculinity for all evil in the world.”
Wow. Talk about misogyny. You know, used to be if someone called you a misogynist, you really must have said or done something truly misogynistic. Today, the accusation has lost all power due to this kind of ridiculous overuse. You’re a misogynist today if you dare criticize a women. You’re a misogynist if you respect the natural rights of a developing child, or refuse to pay for somebody else’s ******* contraceptives. You’re even a misogynist if you employ logic in an argument. It really is past the point of insanity.
And what “changing definitions of masculinity” is he referring to you might ask? Please allow me to help you out with that:
“A mangina is a man who habitually attacks other men, and identifies with women as opposed to his own sex. He is a turncoat who feels honor is pointless, and honesty is a term best placed in scare quotes. He believes feminism is just about equality, while at the same time, he mindlessly defends evil feminists who are bent on male domination.”
Men adhering to this new, feminist approved definition of masculinity are unprincipled, dishonorable, manginas with absolutely zero self worth. They’re self loathing masochists who eagerly await their punishment for the imagined sins of their male ancestors. You know, like the founding fathers. I tell ya it wouldn’t shock me if this guy had “born to submit” tattooed on the small of his back. So yeah, we’re more than a little resentful of this kind of ****, and we’re sure that most other men are as well. Geez, couple paragraphs in and we’ve only addressed the headline.
Imagine a kid who got a cone with three scoops of ice cream in it. Good flavors, too. Like peanut-butter chocolate, plus a scoop of cookie dough. In a waffle cone. And then this child whines about the lack of chocolate sprinkles on top. Welcome to the men’s rights movement.
Yeah, thats what the mens rights movement is about alright. ******* ice cream. Not about reforming family courts to adopt presumed shared parenting, or eliminating affirmative action quotas which hold men back in education and in the workplace, no, forget all that. It’s about us men wanting more sprinkles on our ice cream. What a frickin moron!
Wait, what? Men’s rights? That’s a thing? Yes, it’s a thing, and while there are certain legitimate aspects to men’s rights activism, or MRA, it’s overwhelmingly a toxic slew of misogyny.
Yeah you idiot, it’s “a thing”, and it looks like it’s going to remain “a thing” for quite some time. This guy says there are legitimate issues in the mens rights movement, but did he bother to list a few of those off? No, he would never do that. He just threw that token statement out to seem even handed. In reality there is not one damn thing about the MRM that he agrees with. Nothing. But lets assume for a moment that he really did believe the MRM was tackling some legitimate issues. What exactly is he doing about those issues which he doesn’t feel are even worth mentioning, given that the MRM is after all a “toxic slew of misogyny”? Answer – **** all nothing.
This world of resentment and hate speech has been brought to light in recent days as we learned about the vitriolic forum posts and videos left behind by Elliot Rodger, the 22 year-old accused of killing six people in Santa Barbara last week. But it’s hard to comprehend from Roger’s delusional rants how potent the movement’s message can be for ordinary men.
Well here we go again with the “haaaaaate speech” bullshit, which is as expected as turkey on thanksgiving, but that next part is most interesting. Elliot Rodger, is an example of mens rights vitriol?! Since when? That’s damn funny because Elliot Rodger was a member of an anti-pick up artist community and a body building forum. Seems like just yesterday these feminist ideologues were trying to conflate pick up artists with the MRM. So which is it feminists?! Is the MRM and the pick up artists community one and the same or are we bitter enemies? Fire up that collective brain cell and make up your mind already! Elliot Rodger was a narcissistic psychopath who had nothing to do with the MRM which has always strictly advocated and practiced non violence. Rodger had a lot more in common with feminists than he did mens rights activists, especially given the fact MOST OF HIS VICTIMS WERE MEN, NOT WOMEN. Notice how this so called journalist avoided that by saying it was 6 PEOPLE who were killed by this lunatic. Remember, this guy is not here to report facts, he’s here to lie and deceive. Just another example of that “redefined masculinity” he was talking about earlier.
MRAs believe the traditionally oppressed groups have somehow seized control and taken away their white male privilege. They tap into fear and insecurity and turn it into blame and rage. Often the leaders of these groups are men who feel as though they got screwed in a divorce. They quote all sorts of statistics about child custody and unfair alimony payments, because in their minds, the single mother who has to choose between feeding the kids or paying the rent is a myth.
What traditionally oppressed groups? Women? Women were never an oppressed group of people. You’re lying again, feminist. “Oppression” is being hung from a tree for being the wrong color. It’s being systematically herded like chattel into gas chambers so that you can be exterminated by the millions. At no point in history have women as a group experienced anything even remotely close to this. And if you want to define being cat-called on the street as oppression, then congratulations you’re an idiot. If you’re looking for a more in-depth explanation of this, there’s no better video than this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMzcMATRGmE
If anybody is plagued by fear and insecurity pal, it’s you. Men today have every right to be outraged, as so many are being made to sit powerlessly and watch as their children are ripped from their lives. Their roles as fathers reduced to a monthly cheque in the mail which may or may not even be spent on those kids. And should an alienated father be too financially strapped to make these payments and support himself at the same time, the kangaroo courts feminists like this guy engineered and defend are all too happy to take away the man’s drivers license (genius move by the way, that’s sure to solve the problem), and eventually throw him in jail. Other men are forced to pay to maintain “the life their ex-wives have become accustomed to”, following a divorce. Is it any wonder divorced men are 10 times more likely to commit suicide than married men? These are all considered myths to the likes of James Fell and his ilk. Actually, no, he knows full well that these things go on. He just doesn’t give two shits about any of that, because he has no consideration for the rights of men and is too short sighted to see the devastating impact these issues are also having on the women who also get caught up in this ****. According to this level 1 thinking propagandist jackoff, it’s only about these legions of poverty stricken single mothers and their irresponsible, rich baby daddies. But you’re right douchebag, lets not look a little deeper into the problem of fatherlessness so that we might actually address the issue. Let’s just continue to throw more taxpayer money at the problem and throw innocent men in debtors prisons as we watch this crisis go off into endless perpetuity. And let’s attack anybody who speaks out against that by calling them a misogynist who’s rage and insecurities have gotten the better of them. Feminists like James do not want problems like these addressed. A dependent population is a loyal population, and they know they can increase the power of the state by buying votes with bigger entitlement programs.
They believe passionately in their own victimhood and their creed goes something like this: Women are trying to keep us down, usurp all our power, taking away what it means to be a man.
Nobody in the MRM is making the case that men are oppressed, asshole. We target specific legislation and social attitudes that are discriminatory, but we are not in the business of inciting hatred and animosity among people of different races or sexes. That’s kinda your bag. You are the ones trying to take away what it means to be a man, and you’re using the education system, the media and the government to do it. Or in your particular case – a fitness website. Do men not thrive in an environment where they can compete on a level playing field? History has shown that – yes they absolutely do. So why does the USA alone extend over 160 race and sex based affirmative action policies? How are gender quotas working in men’s best interests exactly, pinhead? Why not have a meritocracy? Equality of opportunity does not equal equality of outcome. Why not leave it up to individuals to pick and choose their path in life and let them earn and own their success or failure for themselves? No, that’s not an appealing concept to social justice warriors like James Fell. We got to punish those evil straight white men somehow! That’s equality dammit!
One popular MRA site is AVoiceForMen.com, with a mission to “expose misandry on all levels in our culture” and “denounce the institution of marriage as unsafe and unsuitable for modern men” as well as “promote an end to chivalry in any form or fashion” and “educate men and boys about the threats they face in feminist governance.” They also want an “end to rape hysteria” and promote “civil disobedience.” In their defense, AVFM does support nonviolence, but with all the inflammatory rhetoric, do readers always take heed?
First of all,while it is true AVoiceForMen often uses satire to illustrate a point, and isn’t afraid to not pull any punches when it comes to holding bigoted individuals and institutions accountable, (which is pretty much why they’ve had the growth and successes they’ve had over the past few years) but it has always maintained a strict adherence to the principle of non violence while doing so. To date there has never been a single actual mens rights activist who has lashed out violently in the name of the MRM. If anything, AVFM acts as one of the only places where many men can go to gain a level of peace and camaraderie that comes with learning they are not the only ones out there having their civil rights violated in a culture that is totally indifferent to the rights of men.
Second, since when is an internet website accountable for the actions of their supposed readership? Trust me, this hit piece has enough inflammatory rhetoric in it to fry an egg, yet not one well known and respected MRA in the MRM (myself included) is harboring thoughts of lashing out violently as a result of it. But, according to Jimmy’s logic, if an MRA did such a thing, James would be obligated to apologize and accept the full blame for that. I have a feeling he wouldn’t turn himself in though.
There are Reddit threads and other Internet forums dedicated to men’s rights, and the language and vitriol towards women and especially towards feminism is appalling. Any messages of nonviolence seem lost in the hate mongering. These groups spew logically faulty statistics about the prevalence of male rape and spousal abuse, and how there really is no glass ceiling or pay inequality”
Feminism is an ideology of bigotry and gynocentric totalitarianism, so it deserves all the vitriol it receives, but what hate mongering towards women is this guy talking about? He gives no examples. What faulty statistics about rape and domestic violence is he referring to? Again, he gives no examples. Guess we should all just take his word for all that. After all, he’s proven himself to be totally even handed up until now, hasn’t he?
As for pay inequality – there is none. Glass ceilings – there aren’t any. Period. Ask Hilary “cankles” Clinton about how she could possibly become secretary of state with virtually no qualifications or achievements aside from the fact she married a lying, cheating pervert who would eventually become the president if a so called glass ceiling existed. There’s a half black man in the whitehouse and yet we are still being told relentlessly that the USA is as racist a country as ever. I guarantee you, that even if a vagina was installed into the presidency, for no better reason than the sheer novelty of it it seems, and the oval office was officially re-named the ovary office, we would still hear about this fictional glass ceiling bullshit. There’s just never going to be an end to this crap. Nothing stands in women’s way should they wish to succeed in a career. The fact women are at present 60% of college graduates is evidence of that. Indeed there are even many unfair advantages that cheapen women’s achievements, but that’s because feminists like James Fell fought to put them there. The pay gap myth has been refuted more times than the flat earth theory. For **** sakes man, turn the page with the rest of us and live in the now! Nobody is buying this canard anymore. Even non MRA members of the public know better. You’re fooling nobody!
…and general complaints about how “that bitch got my promotion because she has a uterus.”
Are there affirmative action policies in effect or not, shithead? Yes there are, so then why don’t you shut the **** up!? So long as you have a government picking winners and losers based on genitalia, you’re going to get complaints like these and ALL of them have grounds for legitimacy. And by the way, you thick headed twat, you think you’re helping women with these quotas?! Most women want to earn their way and don’t need you nitwits telling them they aren’t good enough to do it on their own. That’s misogyny. Nobody likes seeing less qualified women pushed ahead simply because of their genitals, and you’re only ensuring honest, genuinely hard working women will have to work harder to earn the respect of their male colleagues who cannot know if these women are where they are because they deserve to be there.
Men’s Rights Canada made headlines again recently with their classless response to an anti-sexual assault campaign called “Don’t be that guy.” Posters went up across the nation implying women aren’t punished enough for infanticide, stating, “Women can stop baby dumping. “Don’t be that girl.”This was a follow up of the same campaign from last year alleging many women made false rape accusations because they felt guilty over a one-night stand.
Classless huh? Pointing out the obvious hypocrisy and double standards of a vile, sexist poster campaign is classless? Hey if it pisses off the likes of you, Jimmy boy, we’re right on track. You only take flack when you’re over your target. I am not going to speak to the original don’t be that girl poster campaign, since it has already been spoken of hundreds of time by now. You can easily find out the truth about that, (and the point behind it, if you’re as slow as Mr. Fell is) by referring to previous entries on our website. As for the more recent one concerning baby dumping, allow me to elaborate on what that was actually about. Section 237 of the criminal code of Canada states:
“Every female person who commits infanticide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.”
There you have it, a clear cut example of gender bias enshrined into Canadian laws. Feel free to look it up if you wish, it’s right there in Canada’s criminal code exactly as it is written here. An elementary school student can see that this is a clear cut example of preferential treatment for females who murder infants. If the goal is for men and women to be equal under the law, chivalry justice has got to go. We cannot continue to give female murderers of infants a pass. It’s bad for children, it’s bad for families, and it’s bad for Canadian communities. Our message is simple: If you kill a baby, regardless of whether or not you’re a man or a woman, you should do hard time. I personally appeared on a radio show following this campaign and talked to fellow Canadian men and women who agreed with this sentiment. They must not have been feminists because they believed, as we do, in equal treatment under the law, regardless of a person’s sex. Feminism wants to afford one gender the power to get away with what is quite possibly one of the most horrific and evil criminal acts known to humanity. Guess which gender that is. But remember, feminism is about equality. Yeah, right. I’m sure they’ll get around to this one eventually. Probably after they’re finished working that whole feminist-environmentalist angle.
As a white man who writes about fitness, I’m very aware of the pressures on men and the many ways that these kinds of hateful messages reach my audience, both overt like the Canada ads and the less blatant claims of male victimhood in mainstream media. It’s clear that the definition of masculinity is in flux, and for some men that’s frustrating, especially with near-pornographic ad campaigns promoting women as objects of sexual conquest. And while there are aspects of MRA that are worth bringing to light, as a movement it can suck a good man down a rabbit hole of resentment. It is backward-looking and pining for good old days that never were.
No, you’re a self loathing man who sold out his gender for the approval of bigots. You lie to people and call it journalism. You think your masochism makes you sophisticated and earns you the moral high ground but it makes you nothing but a slimy, pathetic deceiver. You don’t have the foggiest ******* notion of what is in men’s best interests and you would undoubtedly sacrifice every male on the planet if it afforded you more meaningless approval from your feminist masters. You know, the ones holding the other end of your leash as you go through your day lecturing men on what louts they are and how toxic and destructive natural masculinity is. Men like you brainwash young boys into thinking they are innately prone to rape and violence. You would rather drug them into submission than let boys be boys. Sex sells, retard and there is nothing evil, objectifying, or unhealthy about men being physically attracted to women or visa versa. Pretty much everybody likes seeing a smoking hot woman, so quit being such a prude!
We MRAs are indeed backward-looking. Not so much to lament, but to gain a better understanding of where we came from so that we can better predict where we’re going. You seem content to write off all of history as some oppressive straight white male imposed “patriarchy” or “good old days” which, to your credit, admit never really existed.
Speaking of looking back – Churchill, Norman Borlaug, George Washington, Patton, …just a few stellar examples of some of the greatest men from history. All straight white males by the way that did not require lectures like “she fears you” or poster campaigns to teach them not to rape. Each of them would surely have nothing but contempt for a snake like you.
Are there some problems with specific instances of unequal treatment? Yes. Is there some anti-male sentiment out there? Yeah, that happens too. But turning these issues into a movement is laughable. It is a like a multi-millionaire who whines that a tax loophole was closed and he’s losing 0.5% of his annual income.
Men, especially white men, aren’t marginalized, we aren’t under attack, and we not in danger of losing the overwhelming privileges society bestows upon us for having pale skin and a penis. However, MRAs have been described as whining children by the women they call “feminist bitches.”
So to any man who feels like he’s getting caught up in such a movement because they feel emasculated or are just having trouble relating to women and perhaps sympathizing with Elliot Rodger, I will tell you this: Life isn’t fair. Life is NOT fair.
Women will judge you. Some will judge you based on your appearance, your height, your width, you genitalia, your wealth, your car, your clothes, your acne. In other words, they will judge you the exact same way you judge them.
What’s laughable is how a man could be this proud to be utterly pussy whipped. Comparing the modern male to a multi-millionaire is as outrageous as comparing your hit piece here to the journalism of Walter Cronkite, (yikes, another straight white male!!). What privilages does society bestow on men?! Is this the same society that handed down a decree to all federally funded colleges that they would judge sexual assault cases involving male perpetrators with a preponderance of the evidence standard (essentially guilty until proven innocent). Is this the same society that booed those young men on a TV talk show who were falsely accused of rape in the Duke Lacross fiasco, AFTER they were proven innocent? The same one in which Sharon Osbourne and her co-hosts of the view openly mocked an elderly man on daytime TV who was drugged, tortured and sexually mutilated?
Men are roughly 80% of the homeless, 90% of workplace deaths, and 99% of war fatalities. Men have absolutely zero reproductive rights, pay the lions share of taxes and receive the smallest amount of social benefits. In EVERY province of Canada, women have a life expectancy of AT LEAST 4 years longer than men. You call this privilege? Nobody is making the case that men are oppressed, you dolt, we’re making the case that it’s time society started to care about the myriad of issues facing men and stop listening to morons like this guy who have nothing but contempt for his country and his fellow man.
Life’s not fair Mr. Fell? Would he ever say that to those poor single mothers he pointed to earlier? Like hell he would, that white knight moron. He has a standard for men and a separate but special standard for women. I feel especially sorry for any poor bastard who stumbles on to this guy’s fitness website and is stupid enough to buy the snake oil he’s trying to sell over there. If any men feel emasculated in this culture, it’s because of spineless worms like James S. Fell whose message to men is one of shame and submission. Our message to men and women is to be independent, free thinking and proud of who you are. Don’t let anybody manipulate you with shaming language or sensor your speech with political correctness. Look these control freaks right in the eye and tell them to **** OFF! It’s your life, don’t let anybody tell you how to live it. Especially not activist “journalists” like James Fell.
http://www.mensrightsedmonton.com/james-s-fell-lying-dipshit/
